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Can you not read the last paragraph in the article. You can ignore it, you can dispute it but to claim I'm making it up is not true. Do you not see Catholic Charities listed as the biggest propagators of the operation? Nothing deceitful about referencing WW II. It's a fact. You cannot hide from the Churches torrid history. You can bash me for pointing out the truth all you want. When anyone shines a light upon the sins of the Catholic Church rather than admit the sins they try to discredit the messenger. If I keep one person from falling into the false teachings of the Catholic Church its worth it. Read the sentence below slowly so you can digest what the author is saying.

Gooden indicated that the biggest propagators of this operation were the Catholic charities of San Diego and the Jewish Family Association, nonprofits with prominent donors - including AT&T, Bank of America and the federal government.
Even one soul my friend . That place is highly dangerous and deceptive . Warn all to not enter into her chambers .
 

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When these Catholic Charities hand out publications that instruct illegals how to avoid capture that's helping them being smuggled in the country. If Bank America or AT&T had participated in smuggling before and had been noted in history as doing so and if I were on a banking or telecom forum I just might do so but I'm not.
I would have some "venom" against those organizations if they were trying to poison people with false doctrine. Countless studies have proved over and over again the role the Catholic Church played in helping Nazi's. Pope Pius XII was Hitlers Pope according to many. He was complaisant in the Italian Jews being sent to concentration camps. Face it. The Catholic Church has been on the wrong side of TRUTH, wrong side of RIGHT and the wrong side of JUSTICE over and over again. You're infallible Popes preach that Jesus is not necessary for salvation. False Doctrine.
So you have one guy saying that Catholic Charities hands out publications that instruct illegals how to avoid capture...and you believe it? Where is the evidence for that?

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So you have one guy saying that Catholic Charities hands out publications that instruct illegals how to avoid capture...and you believe it? Where is the evidence for that?

Curious Mary
I'm not an investigative reporter. I simply posted the article from what I consider a reputable news agency. Like I mentioned, you can dispute it and or ignore it. I'm all for humanitarian aid and evangelism while escorting them back across the border. I'm not in favor of these groups assisting in circumventing our laws.
 

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I'm not an investigative reporter. I simply posted the article from what I consider a reputable news agency. Like I mentioned, you can dispute it and or ignore it. I'm all for humanitarian aid and evangelism while escorting them back across the border. I'm not in favor of these groups assisting in circumventing our laws.
Yes, I would lean in the direction of a catholic pope, a catholic president, and associated organizations all being in cahoots as far as this National Security threat of aiding And abetting Many illegals against laws That Are Not Being ENFORCED!...

Many years ago I thought I was alone in the religious (homosexual) abuse Until
the large-scale scandal was Exposed! Thus my leaning...

btw, I have left behind ALL religions and denominations, irregardless of scandal,
but because of Biblical/doctrinal problems...
 

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Rep. Lance Gooden (R-TX) accused the two faith-based groups of 'running secretive, closed-down hotels.' But they have nothing to hide.

Rep. Lance Gooden (R-TX) went on Fox News on Monday to attack two faith-based charities that are helping immigrants who are seeking asylum at the U.S.-Mexico border.

In an appearance on "Fox & Friends," Gooden claimed that the two charities — Catholic Charities USA and the Jewish Family Foundation — are operating "secretive" programs to bring more "illegal aliens" into the United States.

"What I found were non-profits that were running secretive, closed-down hotels," Gooden said, recounting a recent trip he had taken to San Diego.
Gooden also attacked the humanitarian groups for "encouraging illegal immigration" by giving "packets" to refugees trying to start their lives in the United States. According to Gooden, the packets "detail how to go to the airport, how to get past TSA without any identification, how to enroll your children in schools and assimilate in whatever community you desire to go in."

Finally, Gooden slammed companies including AT&T, Bank of America, and Wells Fargo for giving money to the two faith-based charitable organizations.

The religious charities' work is hardly a secret, despite Gooden's claims.

Both Catholic Charities USA and the Jewish Family Association of San Diego explain in detail on their websites the various services they provide to immigrants and refugees seeking asylum in the United States, many of whom have gone through long and dangerous journeys.

"Catholic Charities affirms the inherent dignity bestowed on every human person, including immigrants and refugees, no matter the circumstances that compel a person to begin a new life in our community," the group's website reads.

"In addition to providing essential services to immigrants and refugees to the U.S., we also advocate for policies that protect family unity and allow newcomers to contribute to and more fully participate in their new communities."

On Nov. 1, Catholic Charities USA announced a new program called "The Border Is Everywhere" to assist immigrants in need of help.

"By developing a national standard of practice for comprehensive referral and social services, Catholic Charities can promote the healthy integration and wellbeing unique to these brave individuals as they start their lives in the United States," Sister Donna Markham, the group's CEO, announced in a press release about the initiative.

The press release notes that Catholic Charities will be providing "respite centers" to immigrants "where they receive food, clothing, showers, basic healthcare, and other fundamental services."

The publicly described system is a far cry from the "secretive" description given by Gooden and amplified by Fox.

Similarly, on its website Jewish Family Service of San Diego details its immigration services, noting the group provides a comprehensive suite of legal assistance and support for migrant families. The San Diego Tribune detailed the group's immigration aid work in a March 26 story.

In 2018, Jewish Family Service launched its Migrant Family Shelter to provide "humanitarian and respite shelter for asylum-seekers who have been released into the United States by the Department of Homeland Security."

The shelter "has kept thousands of migrant families off San Diego’s streets, ensuring they did not further strain the capacities of service providers who were assisting the region’s ever-growing homeless population," according to the group's website.

In the past, Fox has pushed misleading stories about migrant "caravans" in concert with Republicans' fearmongering around refugees seeking asylum in the United States.

The network has demonized migrants, going as far as exaggerating statistics to argue that they pose a threat to native-born Americans. On his nightly program, Fox News host Tucker Carlson has promoted the racist "great replacement" theory to stoke fears about Haitian refugees entering the country.

GOP lawmaker attacks Catholic, Jewish charities for helping asylum-seekers
 

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Rep. Lance Gooden (R-TX) accused the two faith-based groups of 'running secretive, closed-down hotels.' But they have nothing to hide.

Rep. Lance Gooden (R-TX) went on Fox News on Monday to attack two faith-based charities that are helping immigrants who are seeking asylum at the U.S.-Mexico border.

In an appearance on "Fox & Friends," Gooden claimed that the two charities — Catholic Charities USA and the Jewish Family Foundation — are operating "secretive" programs to bring more "illegal aliens" into the United States.

"What I found were non-profits that were running secretive, closed-down hotels," Gooden said, recounting a recent trip he had taken to San Diego.
Gooden also attacked the humanitarian groups for "encouraging illegal immigration" by giving "packets" to refugees trying to start their lives in the United States. According to Gooden, the packets "detail how to go to the airport, how to get past TSA without any identification, how to enroll your children in schools and assimilate in whatever community you desire to go in."

Finally, Gooden slammed companies including AT&T, Bank of America, and Wells Fargo for giving money to the two faith-based charitable organizations.

The religious charities' work is hardly a secret, despite Gooden's claims.

Both Catholic Charities USA and the Jewish Family Association of San Diego explain in detail on their websites the various services they provide to immigrants and refugees seeking asylum in the United States, many of whom have gone through long and dangerous journeys.

"Catholic Charities affirms the inherent dignity bestowed on every human person, including immigrants and refugees, no matter the circumstances that compel a person to begin a new life in our community," the group's website reads.

"In addition to providing essential services to immigrants and refugees to the U.S., we also advocate for policies that protect family unity and allow newcomers to contribute to and more fully participate in their new communities."

On Nov. 1, Catholic Charities USA announced a new program called "The Border Is Everywhere" to assist immigrants in need of help.

"By developing a national standard of practice for comprehensive referral and social services, Catholic Charities can promote the healthy integration and wellbeing unique to these brave individuals as they start their lives in the United States," Sister Donna Markham, the group's CEO, announced in a press release about the initiative.

The press release notes that Catholic Charities will be providing "respite centers" to immigrants "where they receive food, clothing, showers, basic healthcare, and other fundamental services."

The publicly described system is a far cry from the "secretive" description given by Gooden and amplified by Fox.

Similarly, on its website Jewish Family Service of San Diego details its immigration services, noting the group provides a comprehensive suite of legal assistance and support for migrant families. The San Diego Tribune detailed the group's immigration aid work in a March 26 story.

In 2018, Jewish Family Service launched its Migrant Family Shelter to provide "humanitarian and respite shelter for asylum-seekers who have been released into the United States by the Department of Homeland Security."

The shelter "has kept thousands of migrant families off San Diego’s streets, ensuring they did not further strain the capacities of service providers who were assisting the region’s ever-growing homeless population," according to the group's website.

In the past, Fox has pushed misleading stories about migrant "caravans" in concert with Republicans' fearmongering around refugees seeking asylum in the United States.

The network has demonized migrants, going as far as exaggerating statistics to argue that they pose a threat to native-born Americans. On his nightly program, Fox News host Tucker Carlson has promoted the racist "great replacement" theory to stoke fears about Haitian refugees entering the country.

GOP lawmaker attacks Catholic, Jewish charities for helping asylum-seekers
Great propaganda piece. I think you should edit your post and insert the word 'illegal' before every word, 'migrant'.
As far as being a threat to native Americans, wasn't it the Catholic Church recently condemned for their involvement in forced abductions and deaths of babies on Canadian native American lands? No threat to white America? I suppose you'll tell us that these hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants are simply all hard working honest family men and women doing only the work white Americans aren't willing to do. Or get paid slave wages to do so.
But there's another motive that could be considered.
The vast majority of illegal immigrants are Catholic. The Democratic party wants to legitimize votes without ID. What would be the result politically with a large Catholic majority in the American constituency? The death of protestantism in America? Proxy rule from Rome? Church state union? Catholic dogma legislated by government?
 

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The charities conceal their illegal assistance as humanitarian aid. I'm sure they do both but for all the wrong reasons.
 

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I'm not an investigative reporter. I simply posted the article from what I consider a reputable news agency. Like I mentioned, you can dispute it and or ignore it. I'm all for humanitarian aid and evangelism while escorting them back across the border. I'm not in favor of these groups assisting in circumventing our laws.
Soooo let's be clear here....you have NO evidence.

Where in the article does it say they were circumventing the law?
 

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No, I don't see any righteous nation in existence. That's precisely why the world is "turned into hell" like the scripture says. Anyone who believes God should be left out of politics ...is part of the problem.
The obvious problem with such a self righteous argument like this is that politics is fundamentally built on people using human reasoning to solve their problems instead of God's revealed word. Religious voters think they're doing God's will by voting, but they're simply doing what every other deceived person is doing.

Voting means you are part of deceived people's attempts to preserve Satan's world when Christ is bringing a significantly greater and better one. That's what religious voters consistently fail to understand: this world is ruled by Satan, and no amount of voting on your part is going to change that. That's the whole purpose behind God calling people out of this world as His "ekklesia". You say people who are against voting are part of the problem, but such a narrow minded view comes from ignoring God's position on the matter and the big picture.

One of the problems God has with the "Christian" churches mentioned in Rev. 17 is that they are involved in human politics. Go ahead and read it for yourself so you can see i'm not making this up. God specifically called it committing fornication with the kings of the earth. Should someone who desires to follow Christ's example take your word over His Father's?
The Church, the Nazis, and the Facts

Pope Pius XII helped to save over 800,000 Jews during World War II. As far as shielding Nazi’s, I have no idea how many bamboozled clerics after the war to get papers allowing them to escape to Argentina. I do not believe that the Holy See was ever involved in this, they would have no reason to assist Nazis. Again, no evidence for this STUPID conspiracy theory.
The idea that Pius XII helped saved Jews is preposterous, giving the facts about him helping Hitler become chancellor and supporting the genocide against Jews in Serbia. If Pious XII was even remotely concerned about saving Jews, why would he ask God to bless the Third Reich and order German bishops to swear allegiance to it?

The idea that Pious XII wouldn't be involved in helping the Nazis escape is equally preposterous. Alois Hudal helped Nazis escape with full authorization of the Vatican, and was Pious XII's close friend. This wasn't a matter of bamboozled low-ranked clergymen helping people escape with no knowledge on Pious' part; this was a matter of the Vatican helping Nazis escape with Pious' knowledge and approval. Nothing involving the Vatican happens without the pope knowing about it, especially when someone as high on the chain of command as Hudal was is close friends with the pope.
Soooo let's be clear here....you have NO evidence.

Where in the article does it say they were circumventing the law?
Apply some common sense. If those Catholic organizations are teaching people how to sneak across the border and evade the authorities, then those organizations are circumventing U.S. immigration laws.
 
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“Catholics are illegally smuggling Criminals...”


“the Catholic Church and its extended charities are the largest missionary providers in the world by providing money, health care, food, housing etc....”

...etc?...Transportation, Sanctuary...
IRONY...!
 

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Voting means you are part of deceived people's attempts to preserve Satan's world when Christ is bringing a significantly greater and better one. That's what religious voters consistently fail to understand: this world is ruled by Satan, and no amount of voting on your part is going to change that. That's the whole purpose behind God calling people out of this world as His "ekklesia". You say people who are against voting are part of the problem, but such a narrow minded view comes from ignoring God's position on the matter and the big picture.

This is why I have vowed to no longer vote, and am also not getting involved in jury duty even if it means getting locked up.
 

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Apply some common sense. If those Catholic organizations are teaching people how to sneak across the border and evade the authorities, then those organizations are circumventing U.S. immigration laws.
Ok....soooo you have no evidence to prove what you are alleging. Just to be clear, I can't find any evidence of your allegation either so we are both in the same boat.

So YOU should apply common sense which is if YOU have no evidence of an allegation then your allegation can't be proven...THAT'S common sense.
 

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One of the problems God has with the "Christian" churches mentioned in Rev. 17 is that they are involved in human politics. Go ahead and read it for yourself so you can see i'm not making this up. God specifically called it committing fornication with the kings of the earth. Should someone who desires to follow Christ's example take your word over His Father's?
The LIES of Dave Hunt
Anti-Catholic writer Dave Hunt is at it again. Large portions of his previous books have been devoted to attacking the Catholic Church. Now he has written an entire book doing so.

In his advance publicity for A Woman Rides the Beast: The Catholic Church in the Last Days, Hunt proclaims that this book “is not one man’s wild-eyed speculation. . . . This important book will eclipse The Seduction of Christianity [Hunt’s previously most popular book] in its impact on the church.”

Yet in the same issue of his newsletter that carried this publicity, T. A. McMahon, the executive director of Hunt’s organization, conceded that there have been problems getting Evangelical book distributors to carry it. He states, “Dave’s new book (to be published in August) is already meeting resistance from Christian bookstore buyers.” Hunt-ing the Whore of Babylon: Part I
The idea that Pius XII helped saved Jews is preposterous, giving the facts about him helping Hitler become chancellor and supporting the genocide against Jews in Serbia.

The JEWISH VIRTUAL LIBRARY disagrees with you.860,000 Lives Saved - The Truth About Pius XII & the Jews
If Pious XII was even remotely concerned about saving Jews, why would he ask God to bless the Third Reich and order German bishops to swear allegiance to it?
This is just stupid hate speech. Hitler made Lutheranism the state religion; you need to do some reading. Pope Pius wrote it brennender Sorge ( listen (help·info) German pronunciation: [mɪt ˈbʀɛnəndɐ ˈzɔʁɡə], "With burning concern") On the Church and the German Reich is an encyclical of Pope Pius XI, issued during the Nazi era on 10 March 1937 (but bearing a date of Passion Sunday, 14 March).[1] Written in German, not the usual Latin, it was smuggled into Germany for fear of censorship and was read from the pulpits of all German Catholic churches on one of the Church's busiest Sundays, Palm Sunday (21 March that year).[2][3]

The encyclical condemned breaches of the 1933 Reichskonkordat agreement signed between the German Reich and the Holy See.[4] It condemned "pantheistic confusion", "neopaganism", "the so-called myth of race and blood", and the idolizing of the State. It contained a vigorous defense of the Old Testament with the belief that it prepares the way for the New.[5] The encyclical states that race is a fundamental value of the human community, which is necessary and honorable but condemns the exaltation of race, or the people, or the state, above their standard value to an idolatrous level.[6] The encyclical declares "that man as a person possesses rights he holds from God, and which any collectivity must protect against denial, suppression or neglect."[7] National Socialism, Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party are not named in the document. The term Reichsregierung is used to refer to the German government.[8]

The effort to produce and distribute over 300,000 copies of the letter was entirely secret, allowing priests across Germany to read the letter without interference.[9] The Gestapo raided the churches the next day to confiscate all the copies they could find, and the presses that had printed the letter were closed. According to historian Ian Kershaw, an intensification of the general anti-church struggle began around April in response to the encyclical.[10] Scholder wrote: "state officials and the Party reacted with anger and disapproval. Nevertheless the great reprisal that was feared did not come. The concordat remained in force and despite everything the intensification of the battle against the two churches which then began remained within ordinary limits."[11] The regime further constrained the actions of the Church and harassed monks with staged prosecutions for alleged immorality and phony abuse trials.[12] Though Hitler is not named in the encyclical, it does refer to a "mad prophet" that some say refers to Hitler himself.[13] Alois Hudal - Wikipedia

The idea that Pious XII wouldn't be involved in helping the Nazis escape is equally preposterous. Alois Hudal helped Nazis escape with full authorization of the Vatican, and was Pious XII's close friend. This wasn't a matter of bamboozled low-ranked clergymen helping people escape with no knowledge on Pious' part; this was a matter of the Vatican helping Nazis escape with Pious' knowledge and approval. Nothing involving the Vatican happens without the pope knowing about it, especially when someone as high on the chain of command as Hudal was is close friends with the pope.
We don't give the pope supernatural powers the way you do.
Apply some common sense. If those Catholic organizations are teaching people how to sneak across the border and evade the authorities, then those organizations are circumventing U.S. immigration laws.
Why are the anti-Catholic lawyers so silent?
 

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So you have one guy saying that Catholic Charities hands out publications that instruct illegals how to avoid capture...and you believe it? Where is the evidence for that?
Come on Mary. Don't try to be naive about this. Here is what a Catholic writes:
"...Most readers know of the sexual scandals of some Catholic clergy. But the Catholic Church is involved in another scandal that may be unfamiliar to most Americans, including many of the faithful. Certain organizations in the Church, including the Vatican, are assisting in the ongoing invasion of the United States by illegal immigrants..."
The Catholic Church and Illegal Immigration

The pope has publicly encouraged the destruction of national borders and MASSIVE illegal migrant invasion into Europe and the USA. He criticized Trump for the border wall, even though that was perfectly lawful.

Here is another article:
5 Catholic Ministries Helping Migrants at the Border
"In the last ten years, we have funded more than $20.8 million in assistance to border regions."

5 Catholic Ministries Helping Migrants at the Border - Catholic Extension

And to fool the public they call illegal migrant invaders "asylum seekers". That is completely false and even the UN has done a study which should that only a tiny fraction of illegals are actually refugees. The others are breaking immigration laws with the blessings of the pope and his clergy. In other words they are committing treason right under the noses of everyone.

We could add many more articles but this should suffice.

 

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Come on Mary. Don't try to be naive about this. Here is what a Catholic writes:
"...Most readers know of the sexual scandals of some Catholic clergy. But the Catholic Church is involved in another scandal that may be unfamiliar to most Americans, including many of the faithful. Certain organizations in the Church, including the Vatican, are assisting in the ongoing invasion of the United States by illegal immigrants..."
The Catholic Church and Illegal Immigration

The pope has publicly encouraged the destruction of national borders and MASSIVE illegal migrant invasion into Europe and the USA. He criticized Trump for the border wall, even though that was perfectly lawful.

Here is another article:
5 Catholic Ministries Helping Migrants at the Border
"In the last ten years, we have funded more than $20.8 million in assistance to border regions."

5 Catholic Ministries Helping Migrants at the Border - Catholic Extension

And to fool the public they call illegal migrant invaders "asylum seekers". That is completely false and even the UN has done a study which should that only a tiny fraction of illegals are actually refugees. The others are breaking immigration laws with the blessings of the pope and his clergy. In other words they are committing treason right under the noses of everyone.

We could add many more articles but this should suffice.
Yea, and there was no room at the Inn.

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Yea, and there was no room at the Inn.
Christ was definitely NOT a migrant invader. Indeed Joseph and Mary were obeying the Roman governor by going to Bethlehem, their rightful and legal city. So don't even go there. Catholic clergy and organizations are subject to the laws of the land. The FACT that they are involved with blatant lawlessness that is destroying America should generate outrage in all law-abiding Catholics.
 

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American farmers say they are facing a severe worker shortage.
More than half of U.S. farm workers are undocumented immigrants, according to the U.S. Department of Labor. Yet, that pool of workers is shrinking.

A recent Pew Research report found that more Mexican immigrants are now leaving the U.S. than coming into the country, citing tougher enforcement of immigration laws and the slow economic recovery here in the U.S. (The report accounted for both documented and undocumented immigrants).

With fewer workers, farm owners say costs are rising and they often must leave unpicked fruit to rot in the fields. Many producers are even opting to leave the U.S. for countries with lower costs and fewer regulations, said Tom Nassif, CEO of Western Growers, a trade organization that represents farm owners both in the U.S. and abroad.

"We're pretty much begging for workers. It's very bleak," he said.
The worker shortage facing America's farmers
 

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Catholic social teaching is complex, linked with changing social conditions and deepening understandings of both the work of God in history and ethical principles. Nevertheless, this complexity can be summarized imperfectly in terms of seven key principles of Catholic social teaching.

I. Respect the Human Person
The foundation for Catholic social thought is the proper understanding and value of the human person. In the words of Pope John Paul II, the foundation of Catholic social teaching “is a correct view of the human person and of his unique value, inasmuch as ‘man … is the only creature on earth which God willed for itself.’ God has imprinted his own image and likeness on man (cf. Gen 1:26), conferring upon him an incomparable dignity” (Centesimus Annus 11). In a sense, all Catholic social teachings articulate the ethical implications of a proper understanding of the dignity of the person.

Seven Principles of Catholic Social Teaching

Scripture Guide
 
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