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We believe we are saved into the kingdom the moment of faith (well most of us do)//Do Premills think Salvation with the Kingdom of our GOD is after The Return?
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We believe we are saved into the kingdom the moment of faith (well most of us do)//Do Premills think Salvation with the Kingdom of our GOD is after The Return?
You can't Believe that because then you would have to answer this:We believe we are saved into the kingdom the moment of faith (well most of us do)
What about it?You can't Believe that because then you would have to answer this:
Revelation 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
What about it?
The kingdom of God has many aspects.
Jesus is reigning now?Revelation 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
This bolded part means The Kingdom of The World became The Kingdom of GOD. It means it already happened and JESUS is Reigning now.
Jesus is reigning now?
If this is the what the world looks like when Jesus reigns. he failed miserably. So much for ruling with a rod of Iron.
i'm not hearing an explanation for the Scripture.
JESUS said we rule by helping the poor and loving our enemies.
i think i get what you guys want now ...the same thing the pharisees did.
Our King rode in on a donkey ...think about it.
you never answered my question aboveDid The OT give Birth to a Child called Christianity? Revelation 12
you never answered my question above
as for rev 12.
The woman is Israel.
She’s the Holy Spirit.Is The Woman of Revelation 12, Lady Wisdom (Proverbs 1:20-33; 3:13-20; 8:1-36; 9:1-12)?
Rev 12:2
And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
Pro 1:20-21
Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
Pro 8:1
Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
Pro 8:3-4
She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.
Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
Pro 9:3
She hath sent forth her maidens: she crieth upon the highest places of the city,
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Rev 12:5
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Pro 9:1
Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars:
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Was Wisdom fed? Did satan attack the Tree of LIFE?
Rev 12:6
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Pro 3:18
She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.
Rev 12:13
And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
Rev 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
She’s the Holy Spirit.