Sorry, perhaps I wasn't as clear as I could have been. The example of Peter was (as I said) only "like" what we who are born again experience. The difference is, his example, being on the cusp of salvation by being born again of the spirit of God, was only a foreshadowing when Jesus called him Satan. Yes, even Peter was not, nor could not be saved by being born again of the spirit of God until Jesus went to the Father and sent the Holy Spirit.You are trying to confirm old school secured eternal salvation: those 'really' saved depart from all iniquity to live holy, righteously, and blamelessly in this present life. The saints in Christ Jesus live the life of Not I but Christ that liveth in me, which does not include going on still in sins and trespasses.
The doctrine is still in error by not rightly dividing the word of truth:
Just as Peter, having been "washed clean" by Christ, was embodied by Satan.
You are carnal minded in your doctrine. Peter had His feet literally washed, not His soul. Jesus prophesied of how any washing of His blood will be whole washing of His blood.
Neither Peter, nor anyone else on earth was born again and washed clean in the blood of the lamb before the cross and the resurrection.
What you say from that starting point therefore is false.
After we are born again of the spirit of God we can sin in the flesh without loosing our salvation-- Why? Because "we are alive and remain" in the world.
Interesting concept, but no cigar. Those being saved, cease being saved by going on still in their sins and trespasses, or by returning to their past sins and trespasses.
To say they were never saved is a personal judgment without Scripture.
The real error thinking of were saved, or already saved, as in salvation already obtained in this life, which is false. We are being saved by grace through faith, and we obtain eternal salvation by obeying Him unto the end, to attain to the resurrection of the dead.
At no other time in history, not even those times when most of the scriptures were written, have people died and lived on in the flesh.
Except the first Adam of course. As can now be the case of the brethren of the Second Adam, with even less excuse of course.
it is no longer you who lives, but God who lives...and He is forever. While you remain in the world...your old flesh is still subject to death and decay..and sin.
The mortal body continues as corrupt as ever, but the New Man destroys the law of sin and death by the law ofd the Spirit of Christ, and so sinful flesh no longer obeys the law of sin, even as sin no longer reigns over the mortal body.
You are trying to distance your washed soul from your sinful body, and so also from the sinful deeds of your body, resulting in no judgment for sins of the flesh upon your soul.
You are OSAS trying to at least teach not continuing in sins, and you would no doubt agree with 'if' we sin, and not 'when' we sin.
However, it is a lie to say we are no longer judged for our sins, if we commit them, not when:
For the LORD shall judge his people, and repent himself for his servants, when he seeth that their power is gone, and there is none shut up, or left.
I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear.
Thus (thank you) Paul makes the better example. Having received the Holy Spirit, Paul claimed both not to have attained the sinless perfection of the spirit of God, but also as being among those having passed from death to life and being alive and remaining in the world, a new creation, while still doing what he did not want to do, etc..
Therefore, knowing that all of this is a part of a completely new existence that had never occurred, nor was even possible before, he counseled to rightly divide the word of truth as two separate narratives, one truth pertaining to those who would die in the flesh before receiving the Holy Spirit, and another truth pertaining only to those who had received the Holy Spirit and yet were alive and remained in the flesh. Unlike it is taught in anything Christendom, Paul was the only apostle to be sent by Jesus with the knowledge that the word of truth must be [rightly] divided. And it is still not being divided according to his instructions...which were vague at best, because Paul too was just experiencing it. Even so, it is exactly what Jesus foretold, not as peace, but a sword.
And this is why brothers argue over the scriptures as if any of it is wrong. But it is not wrong-- it is people who are wrong--wrong because the two different narratives, one being for the dead in Christ and the other being for the living in Christ, is not divided..as it should be.
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