"Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

[marks]

if Jesus had died for everyone, and His death was sufficient for everyone’s sins, then no one would goto hell. Jesus died so that the elect could be saved. The elect only!

If you aren't saved, then you don't have the Holy Spirit. If you don't have the Holy Spirit you will not understand the spiritual Bible. What are you doing?

Much love!

 

[ScottA]

if Jesus had died for everyone, and His death was sufficient for everyone’s sins, then no one would goto hell. Jesus died so that the elect could be saved. The elect only!

There are other passages, but for example, that does not reconcile with:

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."​

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Belief alone wont save you. God has to call you first. I believe yet im not saved. And Jesus died for the elect only, not one more person.

I agree belief alone will not save you, it takes saving faith.

I also agree one must be drawn. But Jesus said the HS will come and convict the world.

Jesus did not just die for the elect. he died for the world.

He claims to be a god unconditional love, You can not make that claim then not love everyone.

,God died for the world. because he loved it, that whoever believes in him will never perish but has eternal life

He who believes is not condemned, he who does not believe is condemned already.

 

[ScottA]

Belief alone wont save you. God has to call you first. I believe yet im not saved. And Jesus died for the elect only, not one more person.

If (as you say) you are not saved, then you do not have the Holy Spirit in whom is all truth, and therefore have no ability to speak to the truth of this topic.

How is it then that you carry on as if you know what you are talking about?

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

I agree belief alone will not save you, it takes saving faith.

I also agree one must be drawn. But Jesus said the HS will come and convict the world.

Jesus did not just die for the elect. he died for the world.

He claims to be a god unconditional love, You can not make that claim then not love everyone.

,God died for the world. because he loved it, that whoever believes in him will never perish but has eternal life

He who believes is not condemned, he who does not believe is condemned already.

seriously??? Please explain how the un-elect will be saved??

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

If you aren't saved, then you don't have the Holy Spirit. If you don't have the Holy Spirit you will not understand the spiritual Bible. What are you doing?

Much love!

Most it seems on here dont seem to understand the Bible. I am merely giving my opinion as others are.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

If (as you say) you are not saved, then you do not have the Holy Spirit in whom is all truth, and therefore have no ability to speak to the truth of this topic.

How is it then that you carry on as if you know what you are talking about?

again, a lot of people on here who claim to be saved yet dont understand the Bible. I am merely giving my opinion as others are.

 

[marks]

Most it seems on here dont seem to understand the Bible. I am merely giving my opinion as others are.

To what purpose?

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

There are other passages, but for example, that does not reconcile with:

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."​

only the elect will believe. The un-elect will never believe.

 

[ScottA]

Most it seems on here dont seem to understand the Bible. I am merely giving my opinion as others are.

No... some are here also being used by the Holy Spirit, who is speaking the truth through them (just as it is written of them).

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

To what purpose?

To fight against unBiblical beliefs.

 

[ScottA]

again, a lot of people on here who claim to be saved yet dont understand the Bible. I am merely giving my opinion as others are.

You are relying on your own understanding, which biblically falls short and disqualifies you to speak with authority.

 

[marks]

To fight against unBiblical beliefs.

Why?

You don't understand the Bible, so how can you say what are and what are not Biblical beliefs? And why would you?

I'm not buying it.

Much love!

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

No... some are here also being used by the Holy Spirit, who is speaking the truth through them (just as it is written of them).

only the saved will have the Holy Spirit. He isnt going to just use random people.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

You are relying on your own understanding, which biblically falls short and disqualifies you to speak with authority.

who said i speak with any authority??? Not me.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

Why?

You don't understand the Bible, so how can you say what are and what are not Biblical beliefs? And why would you?

I'm not buying it.

Much love!

whats to buy?? Im merely giving my opinion of what i believe is Biblical doctrine AKA calvinism.

 

[ScottA]

only the elect will believe. The un-elect will never believe.

Stop! Your understanding is only literary. By your own admission you have no ability to discern the whole truth of the scriptures spiritually.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

Stop! Your understanding is only literary. By your own admission you have no ability to discern the whole truth of the scriptures spiritually.

Tell you what… you get the other heretics to stop and i will. Deal??

 

[ScottA]

only the saved will have the Holy Spirit. He isnt going to just use random people.

Indeed, there is nothing random about all who are used of God. But all who are born again of God are used-- we are His body.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

seriously??? Please explain how the un-elect will be saved??

That's not what he said.