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Robert Gwin

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Hi Robert.

sometimes, you are going to meet people on a Forum, who are not really born again.
They are religious but lost.
They have a "form of christianity, (having a form of godliness) but deny the power thereof"......Paul teaches in 2 Tim.

These people talk "christianese"... they all have a few bibles, most of them are church members, and all of them are water baptized as for them its all about the "water".
Most will try to prove that the Greek is the "original" and the "bible" is full of errors.
= yet, they are not born again.
What you talk to them about the Cross, and the Christ and the Blood of Jesus, and Eternal life, you are speaking Backwards Chinese to them.
They have no idea what you are talking about.
But if you talk about water, works, commandments, enduring to the end, the old testament, or regarding some obscure verse in The Revelation, then they are fully focused.

Let me show you how to spot the heretic, the liar, the deceiver.
= They will live on forums to try to convince real born again believers, that they might be a "vessel fitted for destruction"', or they will try to convince real believers that they can "lose their salvation", and that The Grace of God, is really not Grace, its actually trying to stay saved by self effort.

Here is what you can ask them, so that you can reveal them to be deceived, or lost.

Ask them.....>"Why does the blood of Jesus that saved you, keep you saved".

They will stare at this concept like they are looking at a complex math equation.....totally confused, and will want to argue that the blood of Jesus, does not keep you saved, but rather your self effort keeps you saved.
See that? That is Christ Rejection, pretending to be a Christian.
Thats a carnal devil, revealed.

When you find these truth mockers, and they are like infections on Christian Forums, just mark them down, offer them some help, and then move on to the real believers, who are actually born again and not deceived.

Hi Behold, I am not a born again Christian sir, I am of the other sheep. Born again Christians are anointed by holy spirit, and have been commissioned to serve as Kings and Priests in the Kingdom of God, residing in heaven as a spirit being.

There are two types of Christians sir. Jn 10:16 Some people refer to them as Israel and Gentiles, which is not totally inaccurate, but both the groups are gathered from all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues.
 

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Hi Behold, I am not a born again Christian sir, I am of the other sheep. Born again Christians are anointed by holy spirit, and have been commissioned to serve as Kings and Priests in the Kingdom of God, residing in heaven as a spirit being.
You don't have the Holy Spirit? Have you been baptized? No gifts from the spirit either?
When Jesus speaks of those of the other folds he is talking about the Gentiles, and how there are those of the Gentiles who will believe on Him. Those like Cornelius.
I know , at least I think, that in your church only the 144000 can take communion. I assume you think you are not one of them.
How do you study the Bible and understand it without the Holy Spirit? Do you ask for help understanding the Word?
 

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1.) There are no born again, in Hell

2.) There are no Christ rejectors, in Heaven.


One more time...


1.) There are no born again, in Hell

2.) There are no Christ rejectors, in Heaven
be careful that your candlestick is not removed!
 

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You don't have the Holy Spirit? Have you been baptized? No gifts from the spirit either?
When Jesus speaks of those of the other folds he is talking about the Gentiles, and how there are those of the Gentiles who will believe on Him. Those like Cornelius.
I know , at least I think, that in your church only the 144000 can take communion. I assume you think you are not one of them.
How do you study the Bible and understand it without the Holy Spirit? Do you ask for help understanding the Word?

Everyone has the holy spirit to a degree maam, but few are baptized with it, which is what born again means. I have been baptized, but water baptism as John gave, and as Christians were assigned to do to new disciples.

Cornelious was a gentile that is true, and Jehovah kept the covenant in force till 36 CE, but after that, Jehovah's witnesses would come from all nations, including those who are born again.

Jehovah has given us His word via the Holy Bible, He reveals His word through His faithful slave that Jesus assigned, and yes only those in the covenant arrangement partake of the bread and wine. Remember there were millions of God's people attending the passover, but Jesus did not make the covenant with them, only his faithful 11 apostles. That small number actually foreshadowed the little flock, while the millions outside represented the earthly class of people. All are God's people, but only the few are in the covenant. Christs brothers.

Our fruits, including our understanding is quite evident as you are able to see by those of us who post here. A quick visit to JW.org reveals it as well.
 

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Know who he said that to. Most Christians are not born again.

Well, all "CHRISTians" are born again.
But not all who profess to be a christian, are born again.

This verse...>"depart from me, i never knew you"......is Jesus The Lord talking to the religious but lost.
He is talking to the water baptized, but not born again.
He is talking to fake christians, who speak "christianese", pretend to be a bible authority, cast out devils in Jesus's name, but are not actually born again.
They build churches and talk endlessly about water baptism.
They create christian forums.
They write christian commentaries
They wear really impressive garments, robes, but they are not BORN AGAIN.

Jesus said....>"you must be born again".......as that is the only way that you become a part of God's Holy Spirit.
If you are not a born again part of God's Holy Spirit...>"ONE WITH GOD". "IN CHRIST"< then you are not born again, and you are going to hell when you die, unless you are born again before you die..... Reader.
 

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Everyone has the holy spirit

Never.

You will never have God's Holy Spirit, until you are born again, by the Holy Spirit.

God's Spirit is not in spiritual union with an unbeliever.
God does not live as "Christ in you, the hope of Glory", if you are not born again.

You are NOT "the temple of the Holy Spirit", unless you are born again.

Believe it.!
 

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God is in me, Christ is in me.
Im "the Temple of the Holy Spirit"....
There is my candlestick.
See it?
That can't be removed, fella.
It must be able to be removed....Jesus warned the churches of this.
 

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It must be able to be removed....Jesus warned the churches of this.


You should stop getting lost in the Revelation.
Instead, read Paul's epistles and learn why the Blood of Jesus is the Salvation of God.

Also,
A person can't stop being born again.

Once born again, always born again.
 

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You should stop getting lost in the Revelation.
Instead, read Paul's epistles and learn why the Blood of Jesus is the Salvation of God.

Also,
A person can't stop being born again.

Once born again, always born again.
Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near. Revelation 1:3

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll. Revelation 22:18-19
 
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You only talk about the body, the person, the human, the flesh........and that is because you do not have the revelation of what it means to be born again, "in Christ", "one with God", = having become a NEW CREATiON in Christ.
Who gave you the right and authority to sit in judgment over another person -- particularly a Christian? You are so full of hot air, you could easily get into the balloon business.
 
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Who gave you the right and authority to sit in judgment over another person --

You are on my Thread.
Remember?
So, if you want to deny the blood of Jesus and preach that water saves, on My Thread, then you get what you deserve.
See, when you proved that you are this.....Galatians 1:8. on My Thread, you get what you deserve.
Keep in mind, heresy is not allowed here.
As you have discovered.

My Threads, my Posts, lift up the Cross, Lift of the Christ on it.
So, when you spit on this with your "water baptism saves" "water cult" theology, you will get what you deserve.
You earned it, every time, Enoch111.....and not just you.
 

Robert Gwin

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Well, all "CHRISTians" are born again.
But not all who profess to be a christian, are born again.

This verse...>"depart from me, i never knew you"......is Jesus The Lord talking to the religious but lost.
He is talking to the water baptized, but not born again.
He is talking to fake christians, who speak "christianese", pretend to be a bible authority, cast out devils in Jesus's name, but are not actually born again.
They build churches and talk endlessly about water baptism.
They create christian forums.
They write christian commentaries
They wear really impressive garments, robes, but they are not BORN AGAIN.

Jesus said....>"you must be born again".......as that is the only way that you become a part of God's Holy Spirit.
If you are not a born again part of God's Holy Spirit...>"ONE WITH GOD". "IN CHRIST"< then you are not born again, and you are going to hell when you die, unless you are born again before you die..... Reader.

I think the difference lies in our understanding sir, may I ask you to define what born again means?
 

Robert Gwin

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Never.

You will never have God's Holy Spirit, until you are born again, by the Holy Spirit.

God's Spirit is not in spiritual union with an unbeliever.
God does not live as "Christ in you, the hope of Glory", if you are not born again.

You are NOT "the temple of the Holy Spirit", unless you are born again.

Believe it.![/QUOTE

What is the spirit here sir?: (Psalm 146:4) . . .His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; In that day his thoughts do perish.