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If the majority of Christians believe something to be true, can we assume it's true?
LOL!

"Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts." Prov. 21:2

"From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?" John 6:66

If the twelve had chosen to go away as well, would they, being with the majority, have made Jesus, walking alone among men, wrong?

LOL... it does seem that more than a few people live for God that way today, doesn't it?
 
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LOL!

"Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts." Prov. 21:2

"From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?" John 6:66

If the twelve had chosen to go away as well, would they being with the majority have made Jesus walking alone among men wrong?

LOL... it does seem that more than a few people live for God that way today, doesn't it?
So if 95% of Christians believe something is true, does that make it true?
 
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If the majority of Christians believe something to be true, can we assume it's true?
Every denomination considers themselves the "majority" and are pleased when they meet others who agree with them.
Yikes...Holy Spirit Come!!!
 
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Every denomination considers themselves the "majority" and are pleased when they meet others who agree with them.
Yikes...Holy Spirit Come!!!
But there are some things the vast majority of Christians believe to be true. Are we to assume those things are true?
 
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People debate things, and one side will provide this set of scriptures to prove their point, and the other side will provide their set.
Too often it may be that there are people on both sides speaking without being led by the Holy Spirit. Either the Holy Spirit is not in them, or they are quenching the Spirit in favor of some other spirit.
 

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Too often it may be that there are people on both sides speaking without being led by the Holy Spirit. Either the Holy Spirit is not in them, or they are quenching the Spirit in favor of some other spirit.
I suspect there are some who follow the Holy Spirit and others who follow there egos.
 
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But there are some things the vast majority of Christians believe to be true. Are we to assume those things are true?
Never assume...always test everything...does it line up with the Word? Is it supported by scripture? Does it bear the right fruit?
Is Jesus taught first and foremost above their own doctrine?
Does what they teach lead a person to repentance and salvation?
Those are a few questions to ask...
 

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Have you ever been part of the 5%?
Have I ever been right in the things of God? Yes, but I would not attempt to place a percentage on it as opposed to percentages of errors.

What is faith?

There is no error in what I know... but what is that? I cannot say the same for what I believe.

I believe and I know some things of God. Until I am able to always see Him "face to face" rather than as "through a glass darkly", I am unable to draw the line in myself between what is known and what is believed...nor should I presume I am able to correctly draw such a line in anyone else. Of course, like everyone else, I believe that I am right. That is the carnal me... or?
 

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Have I ever been right in the things of God? Yes, but I would not attempt to place a percentage on it as opposed to percentages of errors.

What is faith?

There is no error in what I know... but what is that? I cannot say the same for what I believe.

I believe and I know some things of God. Until I am able to always see Him "face to face" rather than as "through a glass darkly", I am unable to draw the line in myself between what is known and what is believed...nor should I presume I am able to correctly draw such a line in anyone else. Of course, like everyone else, I believe that I am right. That is the carnal me... or?
So therefore let us agree on the main principle which is the Gospel of Jesus...after that let each person work out their own salvation with fear and trembling...Phil 2 (NKJV)
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¹² Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
¹³ for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

Rom 14 (NKJV)
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⁴ Who are you to judge another's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.
⁵ One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
⁶ He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.
⁷ For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself.
⁸ For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord's.


²² Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves.
²³ But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin.
 

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I don't know why I posted the above...I guess it just felt like that is the core if what this thread is about.
 
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So therefore let us agree on the main principle which is the Gospel of Jesus...after that let each person work out their own salvation with fear and trembling...Phil 2 (NKJV)
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¹² Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
¹³ for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

Rom 14 (NKJV)
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⁴ Who are you to judge another's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.
⁵ One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
⁶ He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.
⁷ For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself.
⁸ For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord's.


²² Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves.
²³ But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin.
Amen, Sister! Verses right to the point!
Give God the glory!