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[amadeus]

But there are some things the vast majority of Christians believe to be true. Are we to assume those things are true?

I make no such presumption. No one should. Too many apparently do... following the crowd or the natural hunger of their bellies instead of Jesus.

Early in his ministry when Jesus first began to open his mouth and speak to people there were thousands flocking to him to hear his anointed words. By the time of John chapter 6 the meat was too much for many of them. They wanted, I guess more of the wrong kind of meals to feed their natural bellies ...

"And when they had found him on the other side of the sea, they said unto him, Rabbi, when camest thou hither?
Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.
Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed." John 6:25-27

 

[amadeus]

Nope. God is a mystery to man. He has revealed things to me that no man knows except me.

Even so, my brother, even so!

 

[Nancy]

People debate things, and one side will provide this set of scriptures to prove their point, and the other side will provide their set.

Sadly this is too true, yet you would be hard pressed to find this kind of "unity" or agreement amongst even those of the same denomination! Even the clergy.

The Holy Spirit leads us into all truth, and I believe some of these truth's can have multiple meanings but the core Christian values are pretty much the same. I always read the "statement of faith" when considering visiting a local body of believers.

Ephesians 4:13-15a
13 "...until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God, as we mature to the full measure of the stature of Christ. 14Then we will no longer be infants, tossed about by the waves and carried around by every wind of teaching and by the clever cunning of men in their deceitful scheming. 15Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into Christ Himself, who is the head.…"

If I can't grasp something, I just lay it aside and come back to it later...

 

[Faither]

If the majority of Christians believe something to be true, can we assume it's true?

If the majority of christians believe their Christians, can we assume it's true?

 

[Renniks]

Are we talking about things like the virgin birth, the literal resurrection of Jesus and Jesus being God? There are some central truths that most of us can agree on.
I don't think we can just discount all of Christian history and assume we are right and they were all wrong.
If you go back and look into some of their discussions, and I mean way back, like 1000 AD
you'll see a lot of agreement about the main things and lots of disagreement on stuff we don't even think about most times.

 

[dev553344]

Sadly this is too true, yet you would be hard pressed to find this kind of "unity" or agreement amongst even those of the same denomination! Even the clergy.

The Holy Spirit leads us into all truth, and I believe some of these truth's can have multiple meanings but the core Christian values are pretty much the same. I always read the "statement of faith" when considering visiting a local body of believers.

Ephesians 4:13-15a
13 "...until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God, as we mature to the full measure of the stature of Christ. 14Then we will no longer be infants, tossed about by the waves and carried around by every wind of teaching and by the clever cunning of men in their deceitful scheming. 15Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into Christ Himself, who is the head.…"

If I can't grasp something, I just lay it aside and come back to it later...

Yes most of what people all agree on is true. So you can get the basics of doctrine from the mass consensus.

 

[Nancy]

I don't know why I posted the above...I guess it just felt like that is the core if what this thread is about.

I loved all the verses you used in that post H2S.
Yes the "core" of what we should ALL believe and have in common...The gospel!! The "good news" of the greatest gift ever... JESUS CHRIST! Sing it sister!

 

[GISMYS_7]

◄ Isaiah 55:8 ►

God says===“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD.

 

[Bob Estey]

If the majority of christians believe their Christians, can we assume it's true?

It's true 53% of the time.

 

[Bob Estey]

Are we talking about things like the virgin birth, the literal resurrection of Jesus and Jesus being God? There are some central truths that most of us can agree on.
I don't think we can just discount all of Christian history and assume we are right and they were all wrong.
If you go back and look into some of their discussions, and I mean way back, like 1000 AD
you'll see a lot of agreement about the main things and lots of disagreement on stuff we don't even think about most times.

In the back of my mind is this question: If most Christians believe something, should we assume they are right? In other words, is it possible most Christians are wrong about something?

 

[Nancy]

In the back of my mind is this question: If most Christians believe something, should we assume they are right? In other words, is it possible most Christians are wrong about something?

Hi Bob,
I'd say that most Christians ARE wrong on some things...

 

[Bob Estey]

Hi Bob,
I'd say that most Christians ARE wrong on some things...

Yes, maybe even I am wrong sometimes, though you might have difficulty convincing me of that.

 

[ScottA]

If the majority of Christians believe something to be true, can we assume it's true?

Absolutely not. And the precedent is written of Israel, God's chosen, the majority of whom were so wrong they crucified their Messiah.

 

[Heart2Soul]

I loved all the verses you used in that post H2S.
Yes the "core" of what we should ALL believe and have in common...The gospel!! The "good news" of the greatest gift ever... JESUS CHRIST! Sing it sister!

I'll shout it from the mountain top!
I want the world to know..
The Lord of Lords, has come to me...
And I want to pass it on... ♡♡♡♡

 

[farouk]

I'll shout it from the mountain top!
I want the world to know..
The Lord of Lords, has come to me...
And I want to pass it on... ♡♡♡♡

@Heart2Soul It's another way of saying that the Gospel is the rule of the New Testament believer's life (...not the idea of laying down the law on others...)

 

[Heart2Soul]

@Heart2Soul It's another way of saying that the Gospel is the rule of the New Testament believer's life (...not the idea of laying down the law on others...)

Well said brother!

 

[farouk]

Well said brother!

@Heart2Soul Truly this is so, I believe.....

 

[Nancy]

I'll shout it from the mountain top!
I want the world to know..
The Lord of Lords, has come to me...
And I want to pass it on... ♡♡♡♡

"...Shout to the Lord all the Earth, let us sing
Power and majesty, praise to the King
Mountains bow down and the seas will roar
At the sound of Your name..."

 

[amadeus]

In the back of my mind is this question: If most Christians believe something, should we assume they are right? In other words, is it possible most Christians are wrong about something?

Yes, it is possible. We are still people. After being saved out of bondage in Egypt, how many of the 600,000 natural offspring of Israel, not including women and children, were wrong in the way they followed Moses and God in the wilderness? All but two!

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

Have you ever been part of the 5%?

on this forum? Daily. Im a calvinist. You get used to it after a while though.