Jesus' name means "Yah with us"
Joshua's name means " Yah with us"
Do you believe Joshua is God also?
Is Jesus God?
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Jesus' name means "Yah with us"
Joshua's name means " Yah with us"
Do you believe Joshua is God also?
To All,
I am perfectly willing to accept that Scripture is wrong, because most apparently believe that GOD (Jesus) wasn't tempted. And I'd much rather believe people than Scripture. :blink: :wacko:
OR, -- Scripture is correct, and doctrines are incorrect.
The fact is, Jesus set aside HIS God nature and became a FULL man (-- NOT fully God and fully man --). There's nothing he did on earth that we can't do. (And yes, DB, there is ONE thing we can't do, and that's forgive sins). We can walk on water, raise the dead, etc., etc., etc. And so Jesus conquered death and sin AS A MAN, and thus became our sacrifice.
BibleScribe
I am perfectly willing to accept that Scripture is wrong, because most apparently believe that GOD (Jesus) wasn't tempted. And I'd much rather believe people than Scripture. :blink: :wacko:
OR, -- Scripture is correct, and doctrines are incorrect.
The fact is, Jesus set aside HIS God nature and became a FULL man (-- NOT fully God and fully man --). There's nothing he did on earth that we can't do. (And yes, DB, there is ONE thing we can't do, and that's forgive sins). We can walk on water, raise the dead, etc., etc., etc. And so Jesus conquered death and sin AS A MAN, and thus became our sacrifice.
BibleScribe
To All,
I am perfectly willing to accept that Scripture is wrong, because most apparently believe that GOD (Jesus) wasn't tempted. And I'd much rather believe people than Scripture. :blink: :wacko:
OR, -- Scripture is correct, and doctrines are incorrect.
The fact is, Jesus set aside HIS God nature and became a FULL man (-- NOT fully God and fully man --). There's nothing he did on earth that we can't do. (And yes, DB, there is ONE thing we can't do, and that's forgive sins). We can walk on water, raise the dead, etc., etc., etc. And so Jesus conquered death and sin AS A MAN, and thus became our sacrifice.
BibleScribe
There is no scripture that say Jesus was only human. A human being, even a perfect human being could only die for one person because his life would equal one human being’s life. But since Jesus is God as well as human it means that His life was worth more than all human beings' life.
JESUS, GOD OR NOT?
by Pastor Jeromy John Visser
(Introduction:)
This evening I'd like to further discuss the Biblical fact that Jesus Christ is the God of Israel. About a month and a half ago you might remember that I brought forth a study titled Jesus, Yahweh or Not? but there are literally so many scriptural truths that attest to this fact that this second study called Jesus, God or Not? is much like a second part to that sermon. If you're able to, I suggest that you familiarize yourself with the many verses I supplied in that particular study in addition to today's topic.
I feel that this is a very important lesson because there are many false prophets out there that would love for well-meaning Christians to accept the erroneous belief that Jesus is "just a man" or not part of the perfect Godhead and equal to the Father. Ironically, these same groups refuse to acknowledge how judized they have become but would rather point the finger at Pastors like me who teach the perfect Law of Israel like it even has anything to do with the jews. Sadly, they can't even see that it's them who are promoting the jewish fables by teaching against baptism, food laws and much worse.
Tonight, I intend to go much deeper with this study and also address several questions that were put forth by those who read the first part. I also want to expand upon these same themes while offering Christian soldiers even more Biblical proof that attest to the fact that Jesus is the very God of the Old Testament. Remember that Jesus said "He that hath seen me hath seen the Father (John 14:9)" so we would all do well to hearken diligently unto the Words of our Savior.
(God Is Not Man:)
A major tactic of the unlearned is to refer to what they consider 'Biblical proofs' that support their antichrist theories. One such verse is found in Numbers 23:19 and it reads; "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?" Sadly, a majority of Christians also miss that this was a false prophecy given to us by none other than the bogus prophet Balaam.
You might be familiar with Balaam, he was the liar that Joshua withstood; "Balak the son of Zippor, king of Moab, arose and warred against Israel, and sent and called Balaam the son of Beor to curse you: But I [Joshua] would not hearken unto Balaam; therefore he blessed you still: so I delivered you out of his hand (Joshua 24:9-10)." Interesting of note is that by saying "God is not a man" Balaam locks himself forever into the Biblical description of an antichrist and Joshua is considered a "type" of Jesus because his name is Yehoshua (pronounced yeh-ho-shoo'-ah) which means "Yahweh Saved (Strong's #H3091)."
Jesus Himself had this to say about Balaam's false prophecies; "I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication (Revelation 2:14)." It should also be noted that "eating things sacrificed unto idols and committing fornication" can both be considered 'serving other gods,' a clear violation of the first commandment (Exodus 20:3).
(That Rock Was Christ:)
An often overlooked passage proving that Jesus was the same God of the Exodus is found in 1 Corinthians 10:1-4 which reads; "Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ."
This would bring us to another verse used by those who doubt the Godhead -- "No man hath seen God at any time (John 1:18)." Sadly, most Christians overlook the deeper meaning by throwing out the Old Testament account found in Exodus 33:19-21 that reads; "He [Yahweh] said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee [Moses], and I will proclaim the name of Yahweh before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy. And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. And Yahweh said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock."
Now, how does that entire verse in John 1:18 read? It says; "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared." As you can see, this is yet another proof that Jesus is God. Notice how Yahweh makes yet another reference to 'the rock' and that Jesus Himself 'declared' these Words? These passages should also shed some extra light on why Yahweh was upset with Moses for 'striking' the rock instead of 'speaking' to it for water in Numbers 20:7-12. Remember when the Roman soldier pierced Jesus' side as He hung on the cross and "forthwith came out blood and water (John 19:34)?" Just a little something to think about.
(Eli, Eli, Lama Sabachthani:)
Many unbelievers who doubt the deity of Jesus are quick to bring up the crucifixion account where He exclaims; "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me (Matthew 27:46)?" asking who Jesus was 'talking to.' There are many important truths within these verses that even further prove that Jesus is God but we must open our eyes to see them. Most important to note is that Jesus was quoting the first verse of the 22nd Psalm which reads; "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?"
Even more interesting is the fact that this is considered the "Messianic Psalm" that accurately depicts the crucifixion way back in David's day. The entire New Testament verse reads; "About the ninth hour [3 p.m.] Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Notice that Jesus Christ quoted this verse in Hebrew even though He spoke Greek (Revelation 1:18)?
As "food for thought" I'd like to quote Adam Clarke's Commentary on this account; "Through the whole of the Sacred Writings, God is represented as doing those things which, in the course of his providence, he only permits to be done; therefore, the words, to whom hast thou left or given me up, are only a form of expression for, “How astonishing is the wickedness of those persons into whose hands I am fallen!” The words, taken in this way, might be thus translated: My God! my God! to what sort of persons hast thou left me? The words thus understood are rather to be referred to the wicked jews than to our Lord, and are an exclamation indicative of the obstinate wickedness of his crucifiers, who steeled their hearts against every operation of the Spirit and power of God."
(Melchizedek King of Peace:)
I never got around to expanding the topic of Melchizedek in Jesus, Yahweh or Not? but it's even more proof that Jesus Christ is God so we'd do well to examine those passages now. To begin, turn with me to the begining of the seventh chapter of Hebrews where it reads; "For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils." A few verses down it continues "Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec (Hebrews 7:1-4, 17)."
Most Christians are familiar with the Old Testament account where Melchizedek the king of Salem (or the "king of peace") met Abram and blessed him after the battle he fought to free Lot. The account isn't very long; "And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all (Genesis 14:18-20)." In both Old and New Testament accounts we can see that Abram was 'blessed' by Melchizedek, the priest of the most high God.
The name Melchizedek means "king of right (Strong's #H4442)" and it's locked into Messianic prophecy over in Psalm 110:4 that reads; "Yahweh hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou arta priest for ever after the order of Melchisedek (1833 Webster Bible)." Who is the King of Peace? Why would Abram the great patriarch of Israel's race pay a tithe to Melchizedek? Who else can give 'blessings' but Yahweh God Himself? Notice the bread and wine? Melchizedek is also described as without father, mother or descent having no "beginning of days, nor end of life" and was "made" like "the Son of God." Who do you think this is?
(Convert And Be Healed:)
Here's another very interesting passage; "Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias [Isaiah], which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with theireyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them (Matthew 13:13-15)."
Now here's the very prophecy that Jesus' said was being fulfilled; "Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, Yahweh of hosts. Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged. Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me. And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. (Isaiah 6:5-10)." Yahweh is Jesus and vise-versa.
(The Father In Me:)
There are even more proofs that Jesus is God in the tenth chapter of John, starting at verse 23; "And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ [Savior, Messiah], tell us plainly. Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one (John 10:23-30)."
There are so many Israel truths contained within these very passages. The jews call Jesus out asking if He's the Savior to which He quickly rebukes "ye are not of my sheep." He continues to state that He is identical to God because "being in the form of God, [He] thought it not robbery to be equal with God (Philippians 2:6)." He also says "I and my Father are one" -- who could deny the fact that Jesus is God? What's even more interesting is what the jews do after our beloved Savior says all this.
"Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. Therefore they sought again to take him: but heescaped out of their hand (John 10:31-39)."
Like usual, our Savior escapes the enemy being "wise as serpents (Matthew 10:16)" but not before once again equating Himself with Yahweh God by saying "the Father is in me, and I in him." A deeper study into this entire chapter will reveal some very interesting facts that shed light on why Jesus would later say "He that hateth me hateth my Father also (John 15:23)." Also don't overlook the final prayer illustration from Jesus where he says; "I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we (John 17:9-11)." By this point in the sermon there should be no doubt in your mind that Jesus Christ is the same God of Israel.
(I Never Knew You:)
If you remember anything from this entire sermon it would be the following passages so pay close attention to the Words of Jesus; "Serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel [murdered by Cain] unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would Ihave gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord (Matthew 23:33-39)."
This is what's considered Jesus "divine prerogative" and it's in relation to a prophecy found in Jeremiah 25:5 that reads; "If ye will not hear these words, I swear by myself, saith Yahweh, that this house shall become a desolation." This also ties into another important passage; "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity (Matthew 7:21-23)."
The important thing to take notice of in all these scriptures is that Jesus is the Judge. Notice that not everyone gets a "free ticket" to heaven including people who 'cast out devils' and 'prophesy in Jesus name.' Why not? Jesus Christ gives us the answer Himself -- they work iniquity (or lawlessness). He explains that we must "do the will" of God to gain entrance into the kingdom of Heaven, God's "will" is His Law. Beware of people who would like to have you think the perfect Law is somehow obsolete -- we just read why for ourselves. Also, let's not forbid the few true prophets, scribes and wise men that Jesus does send in this day and age. The Word of Yahweh is our only hope and weapon.
(Intention:)
My intention with this particular sermon is to get people to take out their Bibles and read these passages for themselves. There are many 'serpents' out there that would love to have well-meaning Christians break the very first commandment -- "Thou shalt have no other gods before me (Exodus 20:3)." We can only serve one master, brothers and sisters, let's let that be Jesus, the Creator. This week I've engaged in some rather interesting debates but overall the attitude towards these sermons has been good and allowed me to accumulate even more points that will be addressed in future sermons based on the theme of 'Jesus as Yahweh' and His correct position in the Godhead. Keep it simple and keep it in the Word and we'll all do fine.
I pray that we can all remain unashamed of the Gospel and our only Lord Jesus Christ. It's His will in our lives that is most important so we should never neglect to hear His voice when He speaks. Sadly, too many Christians spend more time talking about God rather than listing to what He says, let's not be counted in those numbers! I intend on bringing the second part ofNoah's Flood: Flesh or Beast? this weekend and another pro-marijuana sermon is scheduled to accompany the well-received Herb For The Service of Man series. An extra big thanks goes out to our newer internet visitors that have sent in e-mails of support this week and offered donations, it makes everything worthwhile. War for Christ! Amen.
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Once again, -- If "Jesus is God", and God cannot be tempted, then somebody is lying, because Jesus was tempted.
So is Scripture lying, or is it someone you know?!?
BibleScribe
JESUS, YAHWEH OR NOT?
by Pastor Jeromy John Visser
(Introduction:)
This morning I'd like to talk about a subject that might make a few of you cringe. Nonetheless, it's something that needs to be discussed not only because it's a basic fundamental ofChristianity but because it's a topic that many latter-day followers have fallen away from. Of course, I'm talking about the aspect of Jesus Christ being Yahweh, the God of Israel. Scattered throughout the Bible, in both Old and New Testaments, are many scriptures that support this claim. In the Old Covenant there are several 'types and anti-types' of the coming Messiah -- the ram caught in the thicket that Abraham offered in place of Isaac might come to mind. Even more complex are the characters of Melchizedek king of Salem and even Joshua himself. In this sermon, I intend to probe deeper into these areas of the Bible and hopefully give you food for thought.
In the New Covenant, Jesus Christ himself made the claim to be Yahweh in numerous passages that we'll be looking into. We will also read scriptures from the Apostles that support the fact that Jesus Christ is the very Creator spoken of in Genesis 1:1. We'll look into the term "Son of God" and expand on its meaning this morning, as well. I intend to cover a lot of scripture so have your Bibles ready if you have them, I suggest the King James Version.
Speaking of which, be sure to be here this Wednesday evening where our sermon topic will be New American Standard: Corrupt, Period where I'll be addressing the numerous passages in that so-called Bible where Jesus Christ is deleted altogether. I've noticed an increased interest in this faulty translation infiltrate the Christian movement lately so I'll also be talking a bit about Dr. Logsdon the co-founder of the NAS who said in his own words "I must under God renounce all attachment to the NASB and the King James Version is 100% correct." More on that Wednesday night.
Most importantly is we'll be expounding on the four verses in the Bible that mention the term 'antichrist' and look at the characteristics that causes Yahweh to define one as such. Ironically, you'll also discover that from this very Biblical description many popular mainstream preachers fall under this category and as false prophets teach that Jesus isn't God in an attempt to separate the Trinity for their own purposes.
(In The Beginning:)
We'll begin reading in the Gospel of John, right at Chapter 1 -- "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made (John 1:1-3)." These verses tell us many things. First of all it tells us that 'the Word' was there in the beginning. Take a guess at who that might be? Exactly, Revelation 19:13 teaches us that Jesus is "The Word of God."
Based on those two sections of scripture alone one begins to wonder why anybody would teach otherwise. If The Word of God is God and Jesus is that Word, than obviously Jesus Christ is Yahweh. Still, a little later it gets more specific. For the sake of time we'll jump down to verse 14 in John's Gospel where it reads "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." Here we see that this same Word that was God was made flesh and dwelt among us. What does this mean? Simple -- Jesus is Yahweh.
Still, false teachers insist on attacking this simple teaching from scripture. For further clarity we have another verse found in Colossians that expounds "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." In this passage Paul is speaking about Jesus who "is the image of the invisible God (Colossians 1:15-17)."
Now, turn with me now to 1st Timothy, chapter 3 and pick it up in verse 16. Here, Paul writes to Timothy these words -- "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." Yet again, this is another witness that proves Jesus was 'Yahweh manifest in the flesh.' Maybe now the verse found in Genesis 1:26 might make a little more sense when you read "God said, Let us make man in our image, after ourlikeness."
(The Coming Messiah:)
Before I focus on Jesus' own claims to be Yahweh, I'd first like to look at a few of the Old Testament prophecies concerning His future coming and what they mean. The first place I'd like you to turn is Isaiah 7:14 and we read "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." Nothing too strange about this verse you say? Well, look up the name ‛immânû'êl in a trusty concordance and you'll discover that this word (pronounced im-maw-noo-ale') means "God with us (Strong's #H6005)."
A second witness is found in the Gospel of Matthew that reads "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us (Matthew 1:23)." If Immanuel is 'God with us' and Jesus is this same Emmanuel than one could safely deduct that Jesus is obviously Yahweh from these verses as well.
The next prophecy I'd like to center in on is also found in the great book of Isaiah, this time in chapter 9 and verse 6. It reads "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Right here, the prophet Isaiah is speaking of the coming Jesus and not only calls Him 'the mighty God' but 'the everlasting Father.' The God of Israel is Jesus Christ.
Still, there are many serpentile 'teachers' that continue to lecture against the very fact that Jesus is Yahweh all the while professing to be Bible believers themselves, makes you wonder doesn't it? Considering that in order to be a "Christian" one must follow Jesus as God and trust His teachings like when he says "he that hath seen me hath seen the Father (John 14:9)."
Again, before I get to the Messiah's own claims to being God, I'd like to further present more proof from the Apostles who also believed and worshiped Jesus as Yahweh. There are many so-called "New Testament Christians" who like to throw away over two thirds of God's Word, most even denying the validity of the scriptures when they do. If you're from this misfortunate train of thought, I'll tell you right now -- this sermon won't do you a bit of good. However, if you trust the Word you should be able to appreciate the following verses that I'm going to present to you.
(The Apostles' God:)
Turn with me right now to Acts 20:27-28. This passage reads "For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood." Here, the teaching is that Jesus Christ, here called both God and the Holy Spirit, purchased the church 'with his own blood.' Not much confusion here.
The next place I'd like to go is to the epistle of Paul to the Romans, chapter 9. We'll start reading on verse 5: "Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen." Again, further proof that Paul accepted Jesus as 'God blessed for ever.' Still, there's plenty more proof by way of scripture that I'd like to give you so you might be able to answer or even question a false teacher that teaches against the Lordship of Jesus Christ.
Over in Titus 2:13 we read "Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ." Here Paul is calling Jesus both 'God and Savior' and this verse also ties in Acts 20:28 where it says God bought the church 'with His own blood.' Over in the epistle to the Hebrews we discover more proof that Paul recognized the deity of Jesus in chapter 1, verse 8. Here, Paul is teaching about Jesus and says "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."
Paul also teaches us in Philippians 2:5-6; "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God." Does this verse need any further clarification? Here Jesus is called both 'equal with God' and 'the form of God.' Indeed, time will not allow me to expand on the many other verses that support this claim but I think we've covered enough area already to disprove your common neighborhood snake.
Still, many easy-believest Christians have something against Paul so for even further clarity here's another scripture from 1 John 5:20 that reads "And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life." John also accepted Jesus as 'the true God.' Now, let's hear a few quotes from Jesus himself regarding this same matter.
(The I AM:)
A word of warning right now, what I'm about to talk about will make many false teachers anxious. For one reason or another, they usually like to teach 'separate entities' and rip Jesus out of His rightful place in the Godhead. In 1 Titus 4:1-2 it reads "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron." As close as I can figure is it's this same 'seared conscience' or that person's own unrepentant heart that causes them to war against Jesus because he's the Word. Usually, people who hate Christ also hate the Bible because they as one condemn them somehow.
That being said, I'd like to look at several scriptures spoken by the Messiah where He himself made the claim to be Yahweh. These passages should be the ones that you pay closest attention to if you want to Biblically arm yourself against any doctrines of devils that happen to get introduced your way in life.
Turn with me first to Exodus 3:13-14. The topic this morning is "Jesus, Yahweh Or Not?" so I feel this is the best place to begin. This particular passage reads as follows: "And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." There is so much information in these two verses that an entire of series could be preached on the theme of the great "I AM." In fact, volumes have been written on the subject and numerous cults have sprung up throughout history because of it.
Have no worries though, I have no intention on doing as such. However, I will give you the abbreviated version of what 'I AM' means here -- Yahweh. This is one of the numerous place where we find God's name, also called the 'tetragrammaton' or 'YHVH' This exclusive title "I Am" reveals the fullness of His nature and over in Psalm 68:4 we read "Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him." The word translated JAH is actually yâhh (pronounced yaw) and is the sacred name of God (Strong's #H3050). Perhaps a full-scale sermon on this very topic is in order soon but I'm sure most Christians have done some study on this very verse so I'll continue on.
(In Jesus' Words:)
Turn over to John 8:24 and read the words that Jesus spoke to the Jews; "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins." In this verse, the word 'he' is italicized and only inserted for smoother reading so go back and read it again without the added word, "if ye believe not that I am ye shall die in your sins." Jesus is plainly saying He is God in the flesh because to 'believe' carries with it your knowledge of the Christ as God, born of a virgin, not procreated by man, but the Creator of all.
Right about now, I'll bet hundreds of verses are filling your mind but for the sake of time I'll quickly cover some: "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword (Matthew 10:34)." "For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother (Matthew 10:35)." "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24)." "I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob (Matthew 22:32)." "For many shall come in my name, saying, I amand shall deceive many (Mark 13:6)." "I am come to send fire on the earth (Luke 12:49)." "Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them (Luke 21:8)." "Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world (John 8:23)." "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am (John 8:58)." "Some said, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, I am (John 9:9)." "I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly (John 10:10)." "Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for I am (John 13:13)." "Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am (John 13:19)." "I am come a light into the world (John 12:46)."
Still, here's a few more things that Jesus said about the great 'I AM' -- "I am that bread of life (John 6:48)." "I am the living bread (John 6:51)." "I am the light of the world (John 9:5)." "I am the door of the sheep (John 10:7)." "I am the good shepherd (John 10:11)." "I am the resurrection (John 11:25)." "I am the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6)." "I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman (John 15:1)." "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last (Revelation 22:13)." At this point in this morning's lecture we can deduct from the Bible itself that Jesus Christ is the same I AM that spoke to Moses from the burning bush and gave His perfect Law to Israel. This also might be why He also said "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil (Matthew 5:17)," it's a sin to even think it.
(Sons of God:)
Before winding this whole lesson down I'd like to address two more important issues -- the term "son of God" and the label "antichrist." As we've already addressed in Wednesday's sermonTrees and Stars In The Garden of Yahweh, the 'sons of God' or 'stars' are titles mostly given to angels. For example, in Genesis 6:2 "the sons of God saw the daughters of men that theywere fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose." Over in Job 1:6 "the sons of God came to present themselves before Yahweh, and Satan came also among them." John writes this: "He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, to them that believe on his name (John 1:12)." Romans 8:14 reads as such; "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God" and finally in 1 John 3:1 we read "that we should be called the sons of God." My point? Jesus being called 'Son of God' doesn't make Him a separate deity from Yahweh.
In the Bible, Jesus is also called Son of Man, Son of David, Son of the Father, Son of the Blessed, Son of the Highest and the Sun of Righteousness. Indeed, our Savior Jesus is an omnipotent and awesome God. Still, this 'Son of God' said a few things that I'd like you to think about until we reassemble next time. I know that we've covered a lot of scripture this morning and for that I make no apologies -- as Christian soldiers we need to keep our swords (that is the Word of Yahweh) sharp and need to question anybody that would attempt to teach this damnable doctrine. If time allowed me I'd reference the early church fathers who also accepted Jesus as God. Perhaps I'll expand on this very theme sometime later in the year.
Here's a few final select quotes from Jesus Christ himself, I hope they aid you in your Christian walk; "Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me (John 8:42)." He also said "I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world (John 16:28)" and "he that hath seen me hath seen the Father (John 14:9)." Here's one that's very similar: "If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him (John 14:7)."
"When the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me (John 15:26)." "All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and to whomsoever the Son will reveal (11:27)." "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me (John 14:10)?" Jesus arguably claimed to be Yahweh throughout His entire ministry.
(Intention:)
My intention with this Sunday's study is not to cause ripples among the denominations or confuse anybody. Believing on Jesus Christ as Yahweh is essential for proper Christian growth shedding light on why we pray 'in His name' and 'do all things in Jesus.' In fact, Yahweh can not be made into a liar and by worshipping anything other than the triune Godhead itself is a violation of the first and second commandments given to us, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" and "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image and bow down thyself to serve them." Speaking of liars, let's quickly look at the four places in the Bible where the term 'antichrist' is mentioned.
The first verse is found in 1 John 2:18 and reads; "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time." This passage is important because it tells us that there are, without a doubt, many antichrists at work in the world today. The next passage is the 22nd verse of this same chapter and it's even more specific; "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."
Now, Two more to go -- Turn over to 1 John 4:3 and read the following "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world." The final passage dealing with the word antichrist is found in 2 John 1:7 and it reads "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist."
My intention with this entire study is to get you to think on those final four verses I just shared and search out for yourselves who these antichrists are by the Bible's own description. Our three main clues are: #1) They deny that Jesus is the Christ (Christos or the 'Messiah'). #2) They will not only deny Jesus as Lord but deny Yahweh in the process of doing so. #3) They also confess that Jesus hasn't come in the flesh. You might also be surprised that this very 'Jesus isn't God' theology that I've touched upon this morning is actually promoted by these same "children of the wicked (Matthew 13:38)." That's a sermon for another time, though. War for Christ! Amen.
We aren't taught that God cannot be tempted. We are taught NOT to tempt Him.Once again, -- If "Jesus is God", and God cannot be tempted, then somebody is lying, because Jesus was tempted.
So is Scripture lying, or is it someone you know?!?
BibleScribe
Once again, -- If "Jesus is God", and God cannot be tempted, then somebody is lying, because Jesus was tempted.
So is Scripture lying, or is it someone you know?!?
BibleScribe
God who put on flesh and blood can be tempted and was. God without flesh cannot be tempted to lust at a woman's body for example, because He is not flesh and blood and does not have sexual desires. But when He clothed Himself with humanity it means He would have the same urges that we all have......it just means He never gave into these desires that would lead to sin.
There is more to God becoming flesh than what meets the eye that tells us about our destiny. Since He became one of us, it also tells us that we will be like Him as well. Just as He shared our humanity, we will share His divine Nature....His Nature will be our Nature. His glory will be our glory. His life is our life.....we will and have become one with God. The Triune God have added humanity to His divinity and God has added the God to our humanity.
With this one comment whoever Israelsson is he does not know the Yahweh of Israel.
Only a fool knows not the difference between flesh and spirit. James 1 teaches the origin of sin is human nature i.2 the flesh!
Insight
More Greek mythology.
When are Christians going to read the Bibles for themselves and not lean on thier church fathers?
"God becoming flesh" (1 Tim 6:15,16)
Insight
Where did He set it aside?
Yet again, Scripture says GOD cannot be tempted. Thus either Scripture is lying, or someone you know is lying.
However, if Jesus laid aside his majesty, and became a man, then he can be tempted. And so Scripture is fulfilled.
BibleScribe
Philippians 2
[sup]5[/sup] Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, [sup]6[/sup] who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, [sup]7[/sup] but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.
Once again, -- If "Jesus is God", and God cannot be tempted, then somebody is lying, because Jesus was tempted.
So is Scripture lying, or is it someone you know?!?
BibleScribe
I have quoted scriptures that said Jesus is God so I am at a lost as to how is it that you still believe He is not. And there are scriptures telling us that though Jesus was tempted He never sinned. So it seems to me that you chose to accept one set scriptures but ignore the others.
Scripture SAYS he's not God because he was tempted, and God cannot be tempted. So the question is, -- Is the Bible wrong?
And to hear your side of it, apparently it is. However, I would suggest that it's not. I would propose that even though Jesus had his God essence, he laid it aside to become fully man. And so he never exercised ANY God nature as a man. -- Anyone can walk on water (Peter did), and anyone can become light (Moses did).
Thus although this existence as fully man does not deny his God heritage, it does deny his God power. And thus he was a mere mortal, subject to every weakness, every temptation, and even death. But HE overcame death and became the perfect sacrifice for our sins.
Does this help?
BibleScribe
I have posted scriptures that say He is God. The Word, who is God became flesh and lived among us, as it says in John 1.
If this isn't Jesus then Who is it?
Jeremiah 17:10 (NKJV)
10 I, the LORD, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give every man according to his ways, According to the fruit of his doings.
Jeremiah 17:10 (NKJV)
10 I, the LORD, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give every man according to his ways, According to the fruit of his doings.
... and I've posted Scripture that say GOD cannot be tempted. So apparently GOD's Word is unreliable. Now are you happy?
BibleScribe
To All,
If Scripture appears to be contradictory, it's usually a simple matter to answer that ~riddle~. -- What has four tires and flies? A garbage truck. -- But if someone is so left brained that he can only consider flight, then certainly we all have our limitations.
BibleScribe
Then why didn't Jesus say He was not when Thomas called Him God?
John 20:28-29 (ASV)
[sup]28 [/sup]Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
[sup]29 [/sup]Jesus saith unto him, Because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Thus although this existence as fully man does not deny his God heritage, it does deny his God power. And thus he was a mere mortal, subject to every weakness, every temptation, and even death. But HE overcame death and became the perfect sacrifice for our sins.
Thomas called Jesus God. Peter said Jesus knows ALL THINGS. John 1 said Jesus is God. Paul said Jesus created ALL THINGS. Isaiah said Jesus is the MIGHTY GOD. Matthew said Jesus is "God with us".
And you have no proof.
All you have done is side step the scripture that I post.
If He was mere mortal then how could He say He would raise Himself from the dead?
John 2:19-22 (ASV)
[sup]19 [/sup]Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
[sup]20 [/sup]The Jews therefore said, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou raise it up in three days?
[sup]21 [/sup]But he spake of the temple of his body.
[sup]22 [/sup]When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he spake this; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
John 10:18 (ASV)
[sup]18 [/sup]No one taketh it away from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment received I from my Father.
I'm perfectly content knowing that Scripture is wrong. Thanks for convincing me that you are smarter than GOD.
Now should I worship YOU?
BibleScribe
Now should I worship YOU?
BibleScribe
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