It's all about Matthew 7:23

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the Ten Commandments are part of the eternal moral law and are in effect, the jurisdictional law passed to Peter and the apostles the ceremonial law was fulfilled by Christ!

now we have the law of Christ

Christ replaced David as king lk 1:32-33
Mary replaced Bathsheba as queen Matt 1 rev 12:1
Mary is the ark of the new covenant scripture below

the church replaced Israel
The new covenant replaced the old Matt 21:43 Matt 16:18

the new covenant is for all men

lk 2:10-11
Jn 1:29
Jn3:16
All!


OMG! You people just take any verse of Scripture and read into it anything you want.

YOU quoted Scripture saying the New Covenant was ONLY for Israel. NOW, you want to say something different. This is why what you have been taught is nonsense. You have have to engineer Scripture and lie about what it says to promote your agenda.

NONE of your claims haver anything to do with the fact that the antichrist is known for changing the times and laws of YHVH, and that is exactly what the RCC did.
 

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Romans 2:29
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Ephesians 2:11-13
Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; (In the PAST, you were called Gentiles.)

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: (At that time, you were strangers to Israel. You did NOT have a covenant of promise.)

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. (Now you have been brought close to Israel.)

Verse 19
Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; (You have become fellow citizens with Israel.)

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You have no idea what the Bible is talking about, do you?

the Jews are rejected now the children of disco and the bond woman Christians are of holy mother church gal 4 & 1 pet 2:9
 

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Just make up something new. You're in so deep you will never escape.

its in the gospel!

Matt 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
 

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OMG! You people just take any verse of Scripture and read into it anything you want.

YOU quoted Scripture saying the New Covenant was ONLY for Israel. NOW, you want to say something different. This is why what you have been taught is nonsense. You have have to engineer Scripture and lie about what it says to promote your agenda.

NONE of your claims haver anything to do with the fact that the antichrist is known for changing the times and laws of YHVH, and that is exactly what the RCC did.

Christ has all authority Matt 28:18-20
Christ and his church are one! Acts 9;4 eph 5:32

Matt 16:18-19
 

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Christ has all authority Matt 28:18-20
Christ and his church are one! Acts 9;4 eph 5:32

Matt 16:18-19


Again, you are not responding to my statements. You are saying the same thing over and over. NONE of it addresses the issues I raised. You think "Jesus" is a blanket you can throw over anything to make it be what you want. That's not how it works.
 

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its in the gospel!

Matt 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.


Jesus didn't change anything. He raised the bar!

If you don't kill someone, you are not guilty. Jesus is saying if you hate your brother, it is your heart that needs help, not your hand.

Yet again, another deflection.
 
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Jesus didn't change anything. He raised the bar!

If you don't kill someone, you are not guilty. Jesus is saying if you hate your brother, it is your heart that needs help, not your hand.

Yet again, another deflection.

thats change and only God may change the commandments

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

only God may say this!

Christ is eternal And divine
 

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thats change and only God may change the commandments

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

only God may say this!

Christ is eternal And divine
It wasn't changed. It was fulfilled. The meaning of the Law was filled to overflowing. That's what He came to do.

As long as you want to start quoting Jesus:
Matthew 5
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (I am here to fill up the Law.)

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
(The Law will not go away as long as heaven and earth are here.)

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
(Do you want be called the least or great?)
 

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@devin553344 James makes a similar point in his Epistle, right?
Not sure which scriptures point it out. But without service we don't get blessed with the Fruits of the Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23). And Jesus warned everyone about serving the poor and needy, that it was required for Jesus to save us. Works won't save you, but it would appear that Jesus requires works meet for repentance. At least that's how I interpret it.
 

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Not sure which scriptures point it out. But without service we don't get blessed with the Fruits of the Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23). And Jesus warned everyone about serving the poor and needy, that it was required for Jesus to save us. Works won't save you, but it would appear that Jesus requires works meet for repentance. At least that's how I interpret it.
@devin553344 "Faith without works is dead" (James 2.26).
 
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It wasn't changed. It was fulfilled. The meaning of the Law was filled to overflowing. That's what He came to do.

As long as you want to start quoting Jesus:
Matthew 5
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (I am here to fill up the Law.)

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
(The Law will not go away as long as heaven and earth are here.)

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
(Do you want be called the least or great?)

Do you deny the divinity of Christ and the holy trinity?
 

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Do you deny the divinity of Christ and the holy trinity?

I deny your ability to ask a relevant question.

If you introduce an entirely new topic with every post, then we are not having a conversation. As is your custom, you ignore what I actually write, change the subject, and change it in such a way that allows you to use one of your canned phrases. Constant reliance on deflection shows a very shallow understanding of the subject matter. You seem unusually challenged by the idea of having a rational discussion based on objective standards.

I have played along some, but I really don't care much about continuing this. I am trying to have a conversation. You are ignoring what I say in favor posting another talking point.
 

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I deny your ability to ask a relevant question.

If you introduce an entirely new topic with every post, then we are not having a conversation. As is your custom, you ignore what I actually write, change the subject, and change it in such a way that allows you to use one of your canned phrases. Constant reliance on deflection shows a very shallow understanding of the subject matter. You seem unusually challenged by the idea of having a rational discussion based on objective standards.

I have played along some, but I really don't care much about continuing this. I am trying to have a conversation. You are ignoring what I say in favor posting another talking point.
I would like to know where you stand is all?
 

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People who can't use facts and logic rely on identity politics.

Do you profess the

Nicene Creed!

We believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only Son of God,
begotten from the Father before all ages,
God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made; one in being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven; he became incarnate by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, and was made man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate; he suffered and was buried. The third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures. He ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again with glory to judge the living and the dead. His kingdom will never end.

And we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life. He proceeds from the Father and the Son, and with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified. He spoke through the prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic church. We affirm one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look forward to the resurrection of the dead, and to life in the world to come. Amen.