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Just show me one verse that says 'believing' is an act of self righteous effort.

Faith in Christ, is to put Trust in Jesus as your Savior.
How?
"FAITH comes by HEARING" The Gospel.
The Gospel, is "the preaching of the Cross", and "The Cross is the power of God, unto Salvation".

So, when you give God your FAITH, because you have believed, after hearing "the preaching of the Cross", then God, gives you "the Gift of Salvation" and "The GIFT of Righteousness".
You then BECOME......"a new Creation"..........and now exist in the KOG< as a SON OF GOD, born again.
So, you dont need "FAITH" to get there later, as you are ALREADY THERE because God accepted your FAITH, ALREADY.
 

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You can't teach that you keep yourself saved by "IF IF IF i dont lose my FAITH" and then at the same time say that God gets all YOUR CREDIT for Salvation.

C'mon, at least be honest .
You're just not very scripturally literate. These 'ifs' come right out of the Bible. You can't see them because you're indoctrinated and conditioned to not see them. That's the funny thing about indoctrinations. It makes people look right past the plain words of scripture as if those words are not even there. It's quite an interesting phenomenon.

And just to be clear - I mean, not that you're actually going to hear what I say, lol - you do not keep yourself saved by continuing to believe. You remain in who keeps you saved by continuing to believe. In one ear and out the other, right? Continue to misrepresent what I'm saying...
 

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But at least I'm saved and born again, lol! Right?

The Galatian heretics, (self savers) (legalists) were born again. all going to Heaven.
DEMAS went to heaven.
JUDAS could have, but he left too soon.

WE go to heaven, because we become a part of it as soon as God accepts our faith, ONE TIME.
= Born Again.
 

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You're just not very scripturally literate...

You're impression of my spiritual literacy will change, if you ever lose your Legalism.
I dont think you will, as you've been under the curse of it for over 2 decades.
You are spiritually hardened by it, and like it... and its difficult to stop what feels good to your flesh, as you keep proving.
 

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The Galatian heretics, (self savers) (legalists) were born again. all going to Heaven.
DEMAS went to heaven.
JUDAS could have, but he left too soon.

WE go to heaven, because we become a part of it as soon as God accepts our faith, ONE TIME.
= Born Again.
Except me, because I think you can't remain saved if you do not remain in Christ. Right?
 

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I dont think you will, as you've been under the curse of it for over 2 decades.
You are hardened, and like it... and its difficult to stop what feels good to your flesh, as you keep proving.
Yeah, continuing to believe in the blood of Christ to be saved when he comes back is such an evil thing. I can't believe they haven't banned me from the forum yet.
 

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Please, please! Just one verse...no, just a part of a verse that says 'believing' is legalism. Come on, champ! Just one!

Legalism, is to BELIEVE that you can lose your salvation.
That is you.
Do you want to lie to the members here and say you dont believe that salvation can be lost?
You would have them believe it, and that is why you are on this Forum.
Its why you are on my Thread.
 

Ferris Bueller

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Being born again proves you have believed., and God has proven it by making the believer, a Son.

You keep trying to do that for yourself by "im holding onto my faith".

That's legalism.
(self saving)
Please! Just one verse. Just one!
 

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Please! Just one verse. Just one!

Yeah, continuing to believe in the blood of Christ to be saved when he comes back is such an evil thing..

You are on the right forum , as i told you.

Also, They wouldn't ban you for believing.. but if a person is banned for teaching that you can lose your salvation, this heresy, then you wouldn't be here for a long time, Ferris Bueller.
 

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Do you want to lie to the members here and say you dont believe that salvation can be lost?
You would have them believe it, and that is why you are on this Forum.
Its why you are on my Thread.
I want people to know they are truly born again and ready to meet Christ, and that if they go back to unbelief they will not be ready to meet Christ when he comes back. Unbelievers don't inherit the kingdom!
 

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Seriously, just one verse! That's all I'm asking. Just one verse. Or even part of a verse!

"believing" is not Legalsim.

Its trying to not go to hell, because you think that holding unto faith is why God keeps you saved........is the Legalism.

You believe this, because YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT GOD KEEPS YOU SAVED.
You BELIEVE, that you keep you saved, by "holding unto faith".
See that?
That's your legalism.
Its denies that God keeps you saved.
 

Ferris Bueller

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You believe this, because YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT GOD KEEPS YOU SAVED.
You're just proving it again, lol; you don't listen. It is for the very reason that God, and God alone, keeps you saved that you have to continue to have faith in he who keeps you saved. Prove to me that you are actually capable of at least hearing what I say by representing my argument correctly from now on.
 

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UNBELIEVERS DO NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.


The born again are ALREADY IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD>........They are not waiting to inherit it.
They are already BORN AGAIN INTO IT........

"translated FROM>........darkness TO LIGHT......>"ONE WITH GOD">...... "SEATED IN HEAVENLY PLACES IN CHRIST".
 
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