Who is the Queen of Heaven.

[Zao is life]

No - Mary gave birth to GOD.

This is the problem woith you Trinity-haters. Since you refuse to accept that although the Godhead has Three distintc Persons with Three distingt ROLES - you get ALL confused with the specifics of each role.

Phil. 2:5-11 is aboutthe MAN, Jesus. Jesus sometimes refers to Himself as the "Son of Man" when speaking to His disciples.
He ALSO reveals that He is GOD (Matt. 4:7, John 1:1, John 8:58, John 10:30) - as do others (John 20:28).

YOUR problem - and there are MANY - is that you cherry-pick the Scripture and invent new little "doctrines" around those isolated verses instead of reading them in CONTEXT with the rest of Scripture.

That's like paying Russian roulette with a loaded gun . . .

Well I believe in the Trinity but I also know Mary did not give birth to God but to a man who is the Son of God.

I also know that it's unfair to Mary's memory to be arguing and fighting about her and about how much she should and shouldn't be exalted.

Poor Mary. I'm sure she'd be turning in her grave if she knew how much arguing would be going on about her memory and whether or not she gave birth to God or to a baby boy who is the man, the last Adam and the Son of God who represents man (the Son of man because He set aside His Godly status for a time in order to take on human flesh in order to die for the sins of Adam and his children, and rose again from the dead).

You should leave the poor woman alone. You don't show much respect for her memory at all by arguing about her the way you do.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Good, so you are okay with saying this?...
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and Jesus, and of the Holy Ghost:
I am okay with it, also.

No - I'm not okay with this because that's NOT what my Lord Jesus said to do.
Pay attention, now - He said:
Matt. 28:19
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

THAT was His command - and THIS is what He said WE should do about HIS commands:
John 15:14
You are my friends IF you do what I command you.

John 15:10
IF you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love;

Ummmmm - good luck with your refusal to obe Him . . .

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

I read these passages this morning and want to know who is the Queen of Heaven that the burned incense to that made god angry?

Jeremiah 44:16-18
16 “We will not listen to the message you have spoken to us in the name of the Lord! 17 We will certainly do everything we said we would: We will burn incense to the Queen of Heaven and will pour out drink offerings to her just as we and our ancestors, our kings and our officials did in the towns of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem. At that time we had plenty of food and were well off and suffered no harm. 18 But ever since we stopped burning incense to the Queen of Heaven and pouring out drink offerings to her, we have had nothing and have been perishing by sword and famine.”


Jeremiah 44:20-23
20 Then Jeremiah said to all the people, both men and women, who were answering him, 21 “Did not the Lord remember and call to mind the incense burned in the towns of Judah and the streets of Jerusalem by you and your ancestors, your kings and your officials and the people of the land? 22 When the Lord could no longer endure your wicked actions and the detestable things you did, your land became a curse and a desolate waste without inhabitants, as it is today. 23 Because you have burned incense and have sinned against the Lord and have not obeyed him or followed his law or his decrees or his stipulations, this disaster has come upon you, as you now see.”

The title of a goddess worshiped by apostate Israelites in the days of Jeremiah.Jer 44:17-19.

The Scriptures do not specifically identify the “queen of the heavens.” It has been suggested that this goddess is to be identified with the Sumerian fertility goddess Inanna, Babylonian Ishtar. The name Inanna literally means “Queen of Heaven.” The corresponding Babylonian goddess Ishtar was qualified in the Akkadian texts by the epithets “queen of the heavens” and “queen of the heavens and of the stars.”

 

[BreadOfLife]

Well I believe in the Trinity but I also know Mary did not give birth to God but to a man who is the Son of God.

I also know that it's unfair to Mary's memory to be arguing and fighting about her and about how much she should and shouldn't be exalted.

Poor Mary. I'm sure she'd be turning in her grave if she knew how much arguing would be going on about her memory and whether or not she gave birth to God or to a baby boy who is the man, the last Adam and the Son of God who represents man (the Son of man because He set aside His Godly status for a time in order to take on human flesh in order to die for the sins of Adam and his children, and rose again from the dead).

You should leave the poor woman alone.

Your first TWO statements above in RED are contradictory - as is the rest of your post.

You claim to "believe" ub the Trinity - yet you deny that Jesus is God.
This goes against the very BASIC tenets of the Trinity.

Secondly - can you show me where the Bible makes the claim that the Son abdicated His deity at ANY point of His existence?
Chapter and Verse, please.

And finally, Mary doesn't have a grave - and never did.
WHY is that?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Its the roman catholic church that is the accuser of the brethren .

And it's ignorant anti-Catholics like YOU that use asinine terms like "Roman" Catholic Church.

It's The Catholic Church. "Roman simply refers to the Liturgical Rite.
By the way, Einstein - there are about TWENTY Liturgical Rites that make up the ONE Catholic Church.

Your not a particularly bright Catholic-hater, are you?

 

[Jim B]

In this video, Scott Hahn explains Mary Queen of Heaven in the Bible and shows the Catholic Church's teaching. This is a clip of a longer video of on Mary as Queen of Heaven and earth. To see the whole video, click here: https://youtu.be/eY5YsOLUwSQ

Ah yes, YouTube. How about some footage of the Loch Ness monster while you're at it? YouTube is chock full o' nuts!

 

[Jim B]

Jesis IS God and always WAS God - even in the womb.

Can YOU show me where the Bible even IMPLIES that His deity and humanity were separated in the womb? I didn't think so. He unites to himself TWO natures: FULLY God and FULLY Man.
Those two natures can NO MORE be "separated" that YOUR two natures (flesj and spirit) - until you DIE, hat is..

Ergo, Jesus is GOD and Mary is His Mother, according to Scripture (Luke 1:31, John 2:1-2) - and there isn't a SHRED of Scriptural evidence to refute this fact.
Good luck trying - and good luck denying Him to His face when He's judging you . . .

All right time for some basic biology. Mary produced a human egg that was fertilized by the Holy Spirit. So deity and humanity were separated.

P.S. Mary did a fair-to-middling job of raising Him, even losing track of Him for three days. What kind of mother is that?

Luke 2:41-46, "Now Jesus’ parents went to Jerusalem every year for the Feast of the Passover. When he was twelve years old, they went up according to custom. But when the feast was over, as they were returning home, the boy Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem. His parents did not know it, but (because they assumed(!) that he was in their group of travelers) they went a day’s journey. Then they began to look for him among their relatives and acquaintances. When they did not find him, they returned to Jerusalem to look for him. After three days they found him in the temple courts, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions."

 

[Jim B]

The Son's proper name is "Jesus".

But, as YOU keep ignorantly side-stepping - Matt. 28:19 wasn't written in proper English. It was written in KOINE GREEK - and I've already shown you THREE times what the word used for "Name" means in Koine Greek.

Here we go again - so pay attention, einstein . . .
1) name: univ. of proper names 2) the name is used for EVERYTHING which the name covers, everything the thought or feeling of which is aroused in the mind by mentioning, hearing, remembering, the name, i.e. for one's RANK, AUTHORITY, interests, pleasure, command, excellences, deeds etc.

So, Matt. 28:19 refers to Jesus' AUTHORITY and NOT His proper name?
When will you learn that the Bible wasn't written in Englisn Einstein?

If you say that His proper name is "Jesus", you are wrong. If you called Him by that name He would have no idea whom you were talking to. His name was Yeshua.

When will you learn that the Bible wasn't written in English or Englisn, as you wrote, Einstein?

 

[Jim B]

No - Mary gave birth to GOD.

This is the problem woith you Trinity-haters. Since you refuse to accept that although the Godhead has Three distintc Persons with Three distingt ROLES - you get ALL confused with the specifics of each role.

Phil. 2:5-11 is aboutthe MAN, Jesus. Jesus sometimes refers to Himself as the "Son of Man" when speaking to His disciples.
He ALSO reveals that He is GOD (Matt. 4:7, John 1:1, John 8:58, John 10:30) - as do others (John 20:28).

YOUR problem - and there are MANY - is that you cherry-pick the Scripture and invent new little "doctrines" around those isolated verses instead of reading them in CONTEXT with the rest of Scripture.

That's like paying Russian roulette with a loaded gun . . .

If you're such a stickler for perfection, what does this mean..?

"This is the problem woith [sic] you Trinity-haters. Since you refuse to accept that although the Godhead has Three distintc [sic] Persons with Three distingt [sic] ROLES"

You remind me of the guy in 12 Angry Men who said "He don't even speak good English".

 

[Jim B]

Your first TWO statements above in RED are contradictory - as is the rest of your post.

You claim to "believe" ub the Trinity - yet you deny that Jesus is God.
This goes against the very BASIC tenets of the Trinity.

Secondly - can you show me where the Bible makes the claim that the Son abdicated His deity at ANY point of His existence?
Chapter and Verse, please.

And finally, Mary doesn't have a grave - and never did.
WHY is that?

So Mary was just left to rot when she died? Why is that?

 

[Jim B]

And it's ignorant anti-Catholics like YOU that use asinine terms like "Roman" Catholic Church.

It's The Catholic Church. "Roman simply refers to the Liturgical Rite.
By the way, Einstein - there are about TWENTY Liturgical Rites that make up the ONE Catholic Church.

Your not a particularly bright Catholic-hater, are you?

"The Catholic Church, also known as the Roman Catholic Church, is the largest Christian church, with 1.3 billion baptised Catholics worldwide as of 2019." Wikipedia

Your not a particularly bright Roman Catholic, are you?

 

[theefaith]

I do not, by any means, have a problem with men teaching. What I do have a problem with is men (or women) teaching things that are not in total accord with the Word of God. Catholicism is filled with this kind of false teaching, as I have explained over and over and over. Once you go beyond the clear meaning of Scripture you can invent all kinds of false teachings and rituals; there is no limit to what can be created by false teachers.

You can go on ad infintum with your Catholic denominations mythology, but if it doesn't agree with God's Word it is unequivocally false.

Take one item that we have discussed over and over... You claim that Mary was/is perpetually virgin, yet the Bible clearly says that Jesus had brothers. You say that they're Joseph's sons by another marriage (or whatever unScriptural claim you make), but the Bible says that Jesus had brothers (and even names them).

Galatians 1:6-9, " I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are following a different gospel— not that there really is another gospel, but there are some who are disturbing you and wanting to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we (or an angel from heaven) should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be condemned to hell! As we have said before, and now I say again, if any one is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, let him be condemned to hell!"

You will never get me to agree with anything that is outside God's holy and pure Word! Period!

Sola Scriptura!!!

by sola scriptura you don’t even know what is and what is not scripture

 

[theefaith]

You are awesome!!!

So again, you are saying the name of the son that Jesus was referring to per Matt 28:19 is "Jesus"?

matt 28:19 in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit or ghost is the only valid baptism

 

[theefaith]

Gotcha!

You just divided Christ from his Apostles.

You just debunked Jesus for giving Peter the keys per Matt 16.

Repent.

peter says be baptized per Matt 28:19

 

[theefaith]

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

why father & son
Why not father and Jesus Christ

 

[theefaith]

Is the father God?

who else is God?

 

[Jim B]

by sola scriptura you don’t even know what is and what is not scripture

Maybe I should ask my priest to explain it to me? (Joke, obviously)

Scripture and the Bible are synonyms.

Sola Scriptura simply means that all truth necessary for our salvation and spiritual life is taught either explicitly or implicitly in Scripture"

 

[Jim B]

peter says be baptized per Matt 28:19

"Get behind me Satan"!

 

[Jim B]

why father & son
Why not father and Jesus Christ

"Son" is a title, "Jesus Christ" is His (anglicized) name

 

[Jim B]

Is the father God?

who else is God?

John 1:1-2, " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was fully God. The Word was with God in the beginning." If you don't understand that ask your priest.

Sola scriptura.