Spotting Heretics

[amigo de christo]

The "church" is the Bride of Christ, is the Body of Christ, is all the "temple's of the Holy Spirit".
That is the : BORN AGAIN

ROME KNOWS NOT WHAT YOU SPEAK OF MY FRIEND . ITS Not the one true church . Its very dangerous and
its often why i warn all not to enter into any kind of covenant with her .

 

[Ferris Bueller]

That doesn't address the issue.

The fact is it is now past tense evidence of just what is and is not required for salvation. It is the gospel record...scripture agreeing with all scripture, and good for correction.

Believing is required for salvation. No unbeliever will inherit the kingdom at the end of the age.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Pretty much....wouldn't you agree?

Yes, faith in faith in the blood of Christ is still faith in the blood of Christ.

 

[Behold]

Yes, faith in faith in the blood of Christ is still faith in the blood of Christ.

And being born again, is proof God accepted it....ONE TIME........and this "faith is counted as Righteousness", which Paul teaches is to be "justified by Faith".
Faith is not the savior.
God is the Savior........ God saves you through your faith....ONCE< and you are SAVED. = born again.

You dont understand this yet.

See that?
Its done, as Salvation is not a process.
Its a Imputation, its a GIFT of Salvation, that you receive.
If you have it, then you are Joined to God, and will go to Heaven.

 

[theefaith]

See that which you posted.?
That is the Cross.
Just stay there, and you can stop talking about water, mary, the "cult of Mary", commandments, and enduring to the end".

All men are redeemed

 

[Behold]

All men are redeemed

Not unless they Believe in Christ, and are born again.

Born again, is the proof that you have become a Son/Daughter of God.


Look at these........ they are not redeemed.. John 3:36

 

[Ferris Bueller]

And being born again, is proof God accepted it....ONE TIME........and this "faith is counted as Righteousness", which Paul teaches is to be "justified by Faith".

And so if you don't have faith you are not born again. Haven't you thought out the implications of your own argument?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

And being born again, is proof God accepted it...

Born again, is the proof that you have become a Son/Daughter of God.

How does a person know they are born again? Because they say they are? Use scripture, please.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

If you have it, then you are Joined to God, and will go to Heaven.

...If you continue to believe. Even the original OSAS teaches this.

 

[Behold]

And so if you don't have faith you are not born again. Haven't you thought out the implications of your own argument?

If you are born again, you have faith that God accepted, already.
This is why you are born again...

 

[Behold]

How does a person know they are born again? Because they say they are? Use scripture, please.

Thx for the question.

Because the Holy Spirit beareth witness, (testifies with the spirit in the born again) that the born again are the children of God.

Romans 8:16

 

[Behold]

...If you continue to believe. Even the original OSAS teaches this.

Actually thats not true.

The "Original OSAS"< was a deception created by the devil, in Jude and Paul's day, that IS the deception that God's Grace,, when understood correctly...is "license to sin" or "licentiousness".

What you are referring to, erroneously, is "Eternal Security".

Eternal Security is simply to have Eternal Life, which is to be born again by the Spirit of God, into the Spirit of God, becoming a "new Creation in Christ".
This is the "new Birth" or... AS JESUS demanded...."you must be born again".

 

[ScottA]

Believing is required for salvation. No unbeliever will inherit the kingdom at the end of the age.

Yes, believing and also dying, that is, the laying down or complete surrender of one's own life, that it may be taken up again in Christ.

 

[Dropship]

Since the Catholic Church set the norm a long time ago and you Protestants don't conform to that norm wouldn't that make all Protestants heretics?
Clearly you don't agree that the doctrine of the Catholic Church is the "norm". Who OR what denomination sets the "norm" for all of Christianity?

Firstly, I'm non-denominational and therefore not a Protestant or anything else..
Secondly the catholic church may have set the "norm", but that doesn't necessarily mean it's right "norm".
Thirdly, Jesus said- "You have one teacher, me" (Matthew 23:10), so therefore he's the only "norm" we need..
"There is no other name under heaven that can save us" (Acts 4:12)

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes, believing and also dying, that is, the laying down or complete surrender of one's own life, that it may be taken up again in Christ.

I have a good question i want all to consider .
And what do we think it means . What are we to be dead too .
Dying to what . Its a real simple answer . What have we become dead to .
A hint . JESUS took our sins upon himself on the cross that we being DEAD TO SIN should NOW LIVE UNTO RIGHTEOSNESS .
Guess that was more than a hint .

 

[Dropship]

where does the Bible say it’s permissible to be quote non-denominational?

Jesus is the only "denomination" we need just like he said..-
"You have one teacher, me" (Matthew 23:10)
"There is one mediator between God and men- the man Jesus Christ" (1 Tim 2:5)
"And the common people heard him gladly" (Mark 12:37)
"You're my friends if you follow me. I don't call you servants, but I call you friends" (John 15:15)

 

[Dropship]

not according to the Bible

one church Jn 10:16
..only Christ has authority to found the church on Peter and the apostles Matt 16:18-19 18:18 Jn 20:21-23 eph 2:20 all others are heretical sects the tradition of men with no authority..

Most sects have stuff in them I don't agree with, for example catholicism won't have women priests, and it thinks it's ok to pray to jesus's mum and to "saints", and that murderers etc can confess their sins in the box to make it alright..

 

[ScottA]

Since the Catholic Church set the norm a long time ago and you Protestants don't conform to that norm wouldn't that make all Protestants heretics?

That would be like saying because the Levitical Priests set the norm long ago, that John the Baptist, Jesus, and all the apostles were heretics. Or because Jesus had first claim, the Catholics are heretics for not walking from town to town in sandals.

But that is not at all how things actually work.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Thx for the question.

Because the Holy Spirit beareth witness, (testifies with the spirit in the born again) that the born again are the children of God.

Romans 8:16

And, what else?
The witness of the Spirit in how we live:

"24Whoever keeps His commandments remains in God, and God in him. And by this we know that He remains in us: by the Spirit He has given us." 1 John 3:24​

The person who does not have this witness is not born again. But we're not telling the church this. And so now we have a church full of unconverted, unsaved people who think they are converted and saved and at peace with God but who really aren't. And it's because they've been told how you live has no connection whatsoever with whether or not you're actually born again. This teaching has ruined the church.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

The "Original OSAS"< was a deception created by the devil, in Jude and Paul's day, that IS the deception that God's Grace,, when understood correctly...is "license to sin" or "licentiousness".

No, the original OSAS does not teach grace is a license to sin. Quite the opposite, lol. It says if you have fallen away into a life of sin you not only are not born again, you never were. It's your Hypergrace version of OSAS that says you can sin any sin in any amount on purpose in an outright rejection of Christ and you remain saved because grace covers it. If that isn't saying grace is a license to sin WHAT IS?