Bible alone

[BreadOfLife]

I believe it is called history.

BINGO.

And unlike all of your fairy tales and false accusations - history actually happened.
The Canon of Scripture that YOU adhere to was compiled and declared by the SAME Church that YOU claim is fal;se.

That would mean that YOU follow a false Canon.
Good job . . .

 

[Marine0311]

Unlike YOU I actually believe scripture and understand the ONLY infallible man that ever walked the earth was Jesus. Your pope doesn’t qualify nor can he.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Outside of Jesus we need NOTHING..

Correct.
And Jesus is much more than just the Bible.

He is Truth itsef (John 14:6), and the Church is the Pillar and Fouundation of that Truth (1 Tim. 3:15).
He is the Church (Acts 9:4-5), which is the FULLNESS of Him (Eph. 1:22-23).

 

[Berserk]

The OT canon was not fixed in Jesus' day and the books to be included in the NT canon were in dispute for the first 3 centuries. The discernment of Catholic leaders resolved these disputes. So if you can't trust Catholic tradition, you can't trust our biblical canon.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Unlike YOU I actually believe scripture and understand the ONLY infallible man that ever walked the earth was Jesus. Your pope doesn’t qualify nor can he.

The Pope is ONLY infallible in matters of teaching faith and morals BECAUSE of Him (Matt. 16:18-19, John 16:12-15).
It has nothing to do with the Pope's own powers.

Of course - you have to believe in Scripture to umderstand that . . .

 

[Marine0311]

Wrong your pope is NEVER infallible. I do believe scripture that’s how I know your 100% wrong. Popes have contradicted scriptures with their continued idolatry.

 

[Marine0311]

The OT canon was not fixed in Jesus' day and the books to be included in the NT canon were in dispute for the first 3 centuries. The discernment of Catholic leaders resolved these disputes. So if you can't trust Catholic tradition, you can't trust our biblical canon.

 

[n2thelight]

Outside of Jesus we need NOTHING..
“Thomas said to him, 'Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?'
Jesus replied 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me'" (John 14:5-6)
"And the common people heard him gladly" (Mark 12:37)
"There is one mediator between God and men, the man Jesus Christ" (1 Timothy 2:5)
"Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith" (Hebrews 12:2)
"There is no other name under heaven that can save us" (Acts of the Apostles 4:12)

And the Word(bible )is Christ .

 

[Marine0311]

The Jewish OT was being used in its totality long before there was a RCC.

 

[n2thelight]

Correct.
And Jesus is much more than just the Bible.

He is Truth itsef (John 14:6), and the Church is the Pillar and Fouundation of that Truth (1 Tim. 3:15).
He is the Church (Acts 9:4-5), which is the FULLNESS of Him (Eph. 1:22-23).

How can you quote scripture and at the same time quote scripture ?

Show me one example of something Christ did or say that was not in His Word .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Wrong your pope is NEVER infallible. I do believe scripture that’s how I know your 100% wrong. Popes have contradicted scriptures with their continued idolatry.

Odolatry is the woeship of someone or something other than God.
Provide documented evidence that a Pope had worshipped someone or something other than Geod.

 

[BreadOfLife]

How can you quote scripture and at the same time quote scripture ?
Show me one example of something Christ did or say that was not in His Word .

I already DID.
The Canon of Scripture itself.

The NT does NOT include a list of Books that belong in it.

 

[BreadOfLife]

The Jewish OT was being used in its totality long before there was a RCC.

The Jewish Canon was OPEN during the life of Christ.
Time for another History Lesson, Einstein . . .

Not long after the destruction of Jerusalem, a group of Rabbis established a rabbinical school in the Jewish city of at Jabneh (or Jamnia). This location became center for Jewish political and religious political thought. Because the Temple had been destroyed in 70 AD – this school led by Rabbi Akiba ben Joseph (A.D. 37-137) redefined certain aspects of Judaism until the Temple could be restored.

One of the things discussed was use of the Greek translation of the Old Testament (the Septuagint) by early Christians. The name, “Septuagint", comes from the number of scholars (70) who translated the Hebrew texts into Greek.

Still with me?
Good – because here is where it gets REALLY interesting . . .

At this gathering, they decided to eject 7 Books (and portions of Esther and Daniel) that they felt were “uninspired”. They provided a new Greek translation because the early Christians were converting the Jews using the Septuagint, which was compiled about 200 years before the birth of Christ. According to historical sources, the rabbinical gathering at Jabneh was not even an "official" council with binding authority to make such a decision. It can be clearly shown that Jesus and the Apostles studied and quoted from these 7 Books. In the New Testament, we see almost 200 references to them.

The main advocate for removing the 7 Deuterocanonical Books was Rabbi Akiba, who was also known for proclaiming that a man named Simon Bar Kokhba was the “real” Messiah during the 2nd Jewish Revolt (circa 132 AD). It was during THIS time that the Jewish Canon had still been an OPEN Canon during the life of Christ was closed.

So, YOUR Protestant Father, Luther, chose to go with a POST-Christ, POST-Temple Canon of Scripture that was declared by a FALSE Prophet (Akiva) who proclaimed a FALSE “Christ” (Kokhba).

Good job . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

And the Word(bible )is Christ .

WRONG.

The Bible is the WRITTEN Word of God.
The Bible itself tells us that there is the written - and the ORAL Word (2 Thess. 2:15).

As I told you before . . .
esus is much more than just the Bible.

He is Truth itsef (John 14:6), and the Church is the Pillar and Fouundation of that Truth (1 Tim. 3:15).
He is the Church (Acts 9:4-5), which is the FULLNESS of Him (Eph. 1:22-23).

 

[n2thelight]

I already DID.
The Canon of Scripture itself.

The NT does NOT include a list of Books that belong in it.

So you don't trust His Word , and are you saying the traditions of man decided what would be ?

Mark 13:23 "But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things."

Again what didn't He tell us that's not written ?What did He tell Catholics that He didn't tell anybody else ?

 

[n2thelight]

WRONG.

The Bible is the WRITTEN Word of God.
The Bible itself tells us that there is the written - and the ORAL Word (2 Thess. 2:15).

As I told you before . . .
esus is much more than just the Bible.

He is Truth itsef (John 14:6), and the Church is the Pillar and Fouundation of that Truth (1 Tim. 3:15).
He is the Church (Acts 9:4-5), which is the FULLNESS of Him (Eph. 1:22-23).

Where is this oral word , please share ,I mean something

 

[n2thelight]

Are not we suppose to check anything that man says against scripture ?

 

[Marine0311]

Odolatry is the woeship of someone or something other than God.
Provide documented evidence that a Pope had worshipped someone or something other than Geod.

 

[n2thelight]

The OT canon was not fixed in Jesus' day and the books to be included in the NT canon were in dispute for the first 3 centuries. The discernment of Catholic leaders resolved these disputes. So if you can't trust Catholic tradition, you can't trust our biblical canon.

What may I ask did Christ refer to when He said have ye not read ?

 

[Marine0311]

The popes like all the other lemmings worshipped Mary and depended on her to take their requests to Jesus, which she cannot do.