no we don’t hate the second
Ex 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
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no we don’t hate the second
Ex 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Jim B
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The second of the ten commandments: “You shall not make for yourself a carved image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above or that is on the earth beneath or that is in the water below. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I, the Lord, your God, am a jealous God, responding to the transgression of fathers by dealing with children to the third and fourth generations of those who reject me, and showing covenant faithfulness to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments." Exodus 20:4
Clearly, with your statues of Mary and the "saints" to whom you bow down, pray, and serve, you violate this commandment.
no according to scripture alone and ex 20 the first communion context with content referring to God and worship is ex 20:2-6
2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
the second with different context and content is ex 20:7
7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
the third ex 20:8
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
etc
Jim B
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a) There is no reference to communion.
b) Catholicism is filled with idolatry and clearly violates the second commandment.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.
sorry commandment not communion
no but if it were it would be covered by the first commandment
Ex 20:2-6
but you’re sola scriptura fails to say which is the first, second etc.
or where the first ends and the second begins!
Jim B
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What are you talking about??? The ten commandments aren't from "thin air"; they are clearly written in the Bible. Sola scriptura!!! (Bible alone).
no they are not found anywhere in scripture
ex 20 does not say: this is the first
This is the second
It does not say which is which or where the first ends and the second begins
It does not even say that there are Ten Commandments!
Nothing new: tossing out a word IN Scripture, AS IF, that word has a connection to what you preach.
also a kingdom with Christ the king Peter the prime minister visible head of the church on earth with the apostles Lk 22:19
LOL...Y’all are famous for making up “NAME TAGS”, and pinning them on Dead People.
That’s as clear as mud.
Seems you didn’t get the memo. Saul was appointed Teacher of the Gentiles.
Acts 9
11] And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and inquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,
[12] And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.
[13] Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:
[14] And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.
[15] But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
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Galatians 2:6-10 clearly spells out the roles of Paul vs Peter...
"But from those who were influential (whatever they were makes no difference to me; God shows no favoritism between people)—those influential leaders added nothing to my message. On the contrary, when they saw that I was entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised just as Peter was entrusted with the gospel to the circumcised (for he who empowered Peter for his apostleship to the circumcised also empowered me for my apostleship to the Gentiles) and when James, Cephas, and John, who had a reputation as pillars, recognized the grace that had been given to me, they gave to Barnabas and me the right hand of fellowship, agreeing that we would go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. They requested only that we remember the poor, the very thing I also was eager to do."
This clearly refutes any false teaching that somehow Peter was the foundation of the church. He was just an apostle to the Jews, not to the body of Christ.
For that matter, Peter showed his hypocrisy by his behavior in Galatia when the Jewish leaders arrived. He was a deeply flawed man, and the only person whom Jesus ever called "Satan". Matthew 16:23a, "But he turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me, because you are not setting your mind on God’s interests, but on man’s.”
teacher of the gentiles yes
Paul only no
Paul has the keys of jurisdictional authority over the universal church no
Paul is the prime minister of the kingdom no
Paul visible head of the church on earth no
ISA 22:21-22 keys are held by the prime minister
Matt 16:18-19
Peter has the keys
Belief in Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God....
IS The ROCK foundation of Christ’s Church.
Christ the Cornerstone and Head.
Everyone else added are as stone upon stone.
Apostles added first, thereafter, any WILLING others.
Yes, BEFORE Peter received the Holy Spirit, He faltered. We all do.
Point is. It was Saul appointed to teach/preach to the Gentiles.
Gentile Catholics have adopted Peter (unbeknownst to Peter), as their “rock”, their teacher, their “holy father”.
Remembering Peter was appointed to teach and preach to Jews/Tribesmen/aka ISRAEL, who were UNDER THE LAW, and learning a new Gospel.
Peter taught both, according to the Jewish LAW, while introducing a new Gospel.
Gentile Catholics have historically and to this day, do the SAME a MIX, TO: Gentiles...NOT JEWS!
Men sin Against Men...is UNDER Jewish Law.
Men forgiving men of sin...is UNDER Jewish Law.
CHRIST THE Rock’s teaching...
John 16:
[9] Of sin, because they believe not on me;
Disbelief IN the Lord God ... IS SIN.
Only the Lord God.............. FORGIVES SIN.
Matt 12:
[30a] He that is not with me is against me;
Why are Gentile Catholics teaching Gentiles to yield to Jewish Laws?
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UH...
Matt 10:
[2] Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;
[3] Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;
[4] Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.
[5] These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
[6] But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
LOL...Peter, Paul and uh Mary are all dead, returning to Dust.
None were called Heads, Prime Ministers, kings, queens, pope, holy father, mother of God.
Did Peter take the KEYS with Him to his grave?
No.
WHO has the KEYS to BIND and LOOSE...WHAT?
Matt.18
[1] At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
[2] And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
[3] And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
[4] Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
[5] And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
[15] Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
[17] And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
[18] Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
BINDING and LOOSENING is the Authority of EVERY Converted man.
* Forgive a man his trespasses AGAINST you...that forgiveness SHALL BE LOOSED (permitted) IN HEAVEN.
* Forgive NOT a man his trespasses AGAINST you...Forgiveness of that trespass shall BE BOUND (forbidden) IN HEAVEN.
* SIN is Against God.
* ONLY God Forgives SIN.
* Men forgive men of TRESPASSES.
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