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In the end, though, isn't the Bible just pointing us to a Person?
Exactly. The only thing that makes the scriptures important is that they contain God's word.And that person pointed back to the scriptures!
You come out strong with assumptions of how members will respond.Without a doubt the most important question you will ever be asked in your Christian Life...
Is your faith in the Bible or is it in God?
If you have to use the Bible to validate your faith, then your faith is in the Bible and not in God.
If you Believe that the Bible supports a Triune God, your faith is in the Bible and not in God.
If you believe Jesus was God Himself, your faith is in the Bible and not in God.
If you believe that God will not talk to you, then your faith is in the Bible and not God.
When you post comments and quote them, please post the entire post and not just bits and pieces.
I know hardly any of you will do that because cherry picking is your way of hiding from the truth...
Can you hear the voice of the Bible???You come out strong with assumptions of how members will respond.
It takes faith to accept the gospel of salvation...that message comes from scriptures in the Bible.
The scrolls that were translated into English that gave us the KJV Bible were all written documents of true events. Jesus taught from the scrolls because there wasn't a Bible back then.
A lot of scriptures in the OT are quoted in the NT by Jesus and by the apostles.
The Bible in its physical composition without any writing is nothing that a man should worship. But when the scrolls are copied onto it the whole book becomes the most important spiritual guide to knowing God and His Will that we could ever be in possession of.
Before the KJV or any printed Bible the scrolls were kept in a vault in the Vatican. No church member had access to those scrolls at that time.
The priest would open a scroll and read it to the congregation then roll it back up and return it to the library.
You're putting too much emphasis on what material the Bible is made of rather than what is written on the pages of the Bible.
Faith Comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.
Show me where he taught from the scrolls.... Luke 4:16-21 he read one passage, closed it and handed it back to the minister and sat down.. one passage...Okay I won't give you the scripture but Jesus himself taught from the very same scrolls that are in the Bible....any questions?
I take nothing personally, so no worries there I am not prideful.
Don't trust me, Trust that God has given me the message...
Now, to argue the other side...
On what basis should we trust that God has given you (or anybody else) a message?
Now, to argue the other side...
On what basis should we trust that God has given you (or anybody else) a message?
The overall view is this
Living by the Spirit is primary.
The Bible is simply referential.
Faith comes by hearing and hearing the word of God.
The Bible itself was never written to us personally, however it has tons of value which is nearly endless to learn from. However at the end of it when you walk away you have a choice, will one decide walk by their flesh (my ways), or by the Spirit (Gods ways which he helps us produce good fruit which is all by faith, however you learn what those things are from the Bible).
If I felt like stirring the pot, I'd quote this scripture:Ask yourself one question... Did God or Jesus ever lie???
but if you do not walk in the Spirit then you are walking in the flesh...
People read and use the Bible so that they do not have to walk in the spirit...
Can you hear the voice of the Bible???
Did “god” tell you that?
Or did you learn about that in the Bible?
“…the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” (John 6:63)
Jesus’ words are spirit, Jesus’ words are in the Bible; So your statement is either a lie, a taunt, or pure stupidity…
If I felt like stirring the pot, I'd quote this scripture:
And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so. Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee. (1 Kings 22:22-23)
(And don't say, "Well, the demonic spirit did the actual lying". The kingpin who sends out a hitman is equally guilty of murder as the man who pulled the trigger.)
You need to listen to this.
J.
Luk 4:17 [After the Hagbah], he was presented with the megillat sefer Yeshayah and having unrolled the megillah, he found the dvar where it had been written,Show me where he taught from the scrolls.... Luke 4:16-21 he read one passage, closed it and handed it back to the minister and sat down.. one passage...
You can point to the person all you like but, if you do not submit to the person it is pointing to then you had learned nothing of what was read in the Bible...In the end, though, isn't the Bible just pointing us to a Person?