I'd like to elaborate on this a bit if that's okay. I'm happy to spin it off as a new thread if it's considered off-topic here, too simplistic or too complicated or too controversial or too mundane. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as the saying goes. I do think it's at the heart of
@MatthewG 's original post with respect to Jesus and what "nature" he was born with. There is an even more fundamental principle in play.
My aim is not to convince anyone, rather to simply present an idea for consideration. If it helps-- great. If it doesn't-- fine. It's up to the individual to decide what concepts they will accept or reject-- let the reader decide!
"Jesus" was a baby born in a barn (I like to say) some two thousand years ago. Very human. Very physical. And it was this physical, human beginning as a baby born in humble circumstances that makes him like us with respect to our common humanity. Like us in every way is what scripture stipulates.
Therefore, he had to be made like his brethren in all things, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. (Heb 2)
"Made a man like his brothers in all things." That's pretty clear. Human. Human nature. He was born with it because he was born human, unless scripture is misrepresenting him regarding his making.
But what
is human? If you can accept that this duality I mentioned exists and is a fundamental principle needed in order to understand it becomes easy to differentiate and simplify terms-- a higher heavenly nature that is spiritual and one that is lower,
fallen and physical. A divine nature, and human nature. Good and evil, spirit and flesh. It's not an indictment. It's a description. It's a condition. The
human condition.
To be born human is to be born with this condition called "flesh." Over and over scripture equates it with sin-- our human condition, our fallen state, our curse. But it is only one of our two natures. The other of course is spiritual and divine (of God). It's this distinction between two that we derive the terms or titles- Son of God, Son of Man. One spiritual- spirit, one physical- flesh. Scripture says-- Spirit gives birth to spirit- (son of God) and flesh gives birth to flesh-- (son of hu
man).
From here and with this understanding you might grasp the idea that God (the Father) so loved the world that He sent His son (spirit gives birth to spirit) and this spirit-son descended from on high, from a heavenly place to a fallen, physical world and was born a man-- that baby, made like us in all things.... the perfect, holy, innocent, pure, spotless one-- the spirit-son of God descending into the poor, broken, sinful, flesh of humanity.
It's no slap upon the face of Jesus -- human flesh was the condition he was born with-- a birth defect we all share.