Poll: Tattoo artist: if a Christian daughter/son of yours worked as one, would you be supportive?

[farouk]

christains are in the ARMY of the LORD . True men and women follow CHRIST .

@amigo de christo Good point.

I think also the army was finding its previous tattoo restrictions unrealistic, because so many potential male and female recruits would be tattooed.

 

[amigo de christo]

@amigo de christo Good point.

I think also the army was finding its previous tattoo restrictions unrealistic, because so many potential male and female recruits would be tattooed.

This might suprise some , but i once was in the marine corps . Anti terroism unit and later infantry .
YET NOW i am in a whole new ARMY . THE ARMY OF THE LORD , where our orders come from above and not men of this world .
BE YE HOLY for the GLORIOUS LORD IS HOLY is my MOTTO .

 

[farouk]

Thanks to all who voted so far in the poll.

(NB: If you have not yet voted in the poll, please vote now.)

 

[farouk]

@Waiting on him FYI......did you see the recent poll, above?

And did you see the US Army's recent tattoo policy development?

The Army’s Looking for a Few Good Soldiers—With Neck Tattoos

Interesting that the US Army is accepting that neck tattoos - and certain other placements - are consistent manly and womanly features of a soldier's deportment.

( cc @VictoryinJesus Did you see this?)

 

[farouk]

PS @VictoryinJesus Did you see the recent poll, above?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

PS @VictoryinJesus Did you see the recent poll, above?

I didn’t. My mind has been so preoccupied. Definitely support whatever my daughter decides because this is her journey. Right now she is working at a nail salon where she paints impressions designs for her clients. She loves it so far….always incorporating art in anything she does.

 

[Heart2Soul]

christains are in the ARMY of the LORD . True men and women follow CHRIST .

Yes, and no one is arguing this. But for the sake of this discussion, let's stay on topic please.

 

[farouk]

Yes, and no one is arguing this. But for the sake of this discussion, let's stay on topic please.

Thank-you, @Heart2Soul .

Yes, and the topic itself can be worthwhile discussing and pursuing. Just as you said about young adults thinking:

Got to get your tattoo if you're a real man.

...

and just as we can remember that Rita said it made her feel good:

I felt good about it. ..I was 50 when I had mine done, and two of my sons had various tattoos long before me.. their mum, at the age of 50, ..getting a tattoo - ...I had weighed everything up , talked to my pastor, reflected on scripture

so it follows that those who do feel good about it - whether young ppl, Rita or so many others - would logically see the tattoo artist profession as a well regarded one, really...if we look at it logically, right.

(Kind of, can make the person want to go through with it.)

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes, and no one is arguing this. But for the sake of this discussion, let's stay on topic please.

Its true i have a one track mind . Its on Christ and i cannot help but to point to the glorious Lord .
Now let all that has breath praise and thank the LORD . Lift those hands and let the LORD be praised .

 

[dhh712]

@dhh712

Others would likely agree with you; look what others have said; Rita admits that it made her feel good:

Rita said

It seems to be the right choice for a lot of Christians out there.

 

[The Learner]

I wonder is Leviticus still in play or not?
Leviticus 19:28
You must not make any cuts in your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD.

tattoo is a very poor translation which I already demonstrated.

 

[The Learner]

I am not keeping up.

 

[dhh712]

tattoo is a very poor translation which I already demonstrated.

Many of the laws were given to the Israel nation (to be the physical church of God on earth) when it was bound by a geographical area (which it is not now) so that it would keep them separate from the pagan nations around them. Many of the laws-- the cutting here which can be interpreted as tattoos-- were rites practiced by those nations which God did not want the Israelites to participate in.

Since the abrogation of the laws, since Israel the church is no longer a nation (though the church actually never was confined to that physical boundary as many who were Israelites were not saved by God and many who were pagans were joined to Israel and were saved), those laws given to separate Israel from surrounding pagan nations no longer apply to Christians.

It can be confusing to know which laws apply and which do not. But I have the impression that most Christians today plant gardens of mixed crop and wear a combination of fabric for clothing too. These things were also prohibited in Israel when it was a nation. So, if the tattoos are a problem to some believers today, all I ask is that they follow through with their logic consistently and also do not wear mixed fabric and have mixed gardens. Please look down on people as though they are sinning who do these very common things as well (and definitely make sure you don't do them either of course-- be checking your clothing labels and you need to have those boundaries between your tomato and pepper plants and all the other things you like to plant in your garden too). Thank you.

 

[dhh712]

I wonder is Leviticus still in play or not?
Leviticus 19:28
You must not make any cuts in your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD.

In this instance this law is not required by God of his people anymore. Just like he doesn't require Christians to separate their fields by crops and also wear clothing of just one fabric. The food laws are also those that have been abrogated by God when he opened salvation widely to the Gentiles.

Christians are called to be separated from the world now by their moral actions not the physical differences which he imposed to enforce a separation between the Israelites and the pagan nations surrounding them.

 

[JohnPaul]

Thank-you, @Heart2Soul .

Yes, and the topic itself can be worthwhile discussing and pursuing. Just as you said about young adults thinking: ...

and just as we can remember that Rita said it made her feel good:

so it follows that those who do feel good about it - whether young ppl, Rita or so many others - would logically see the tattoo artist profession as a well regarded one, really...if we look at it logically, right.

(Kind of, can make the person feel to go through with it is an authentic Christian experience, really.)

@farouk are you a tattoo artist, do you own a tattoo parlor?

 

[The Learner]

Leviticus was written around 1450BC Tats did not come into existence until around 300 BC in the immediate area of Isreal. Also, cutting deep in the flesh is not Tats. The cutting was for the dead and maybe related to the false gods. Tats did exist in Egypt before that time peroid. The people would avoid them anyways.,

Many of the laws were given to the Israel nation (to be the physical church of God on earth) when it was bound by a geographical area (which it is not now) so that it would keep them separate from the pagan nations around them. Many of the laws-- the cutting here which can be interpreted as tattoos-- were rites practiced by those nations which God did not want the Israelites to participate in.

Since the abrogation of the laws, since Israel the church is no longer a nation (though the church actually never was confined to that physical boundary as many who were Israelites were not saved by God and many who were pagans were joined to Israel and were saved), those laws given to separate Israel from surrounding pagan nations no longer apply to Christians.

It can be confusing to know which laws apply and which do not. But I have the impression that most Christians today plant gardens of mixed crop and wear a combination of fabric for clothing too. These things were also prohibited in Israel when it was a nation. So, if the tattoos are a problem to some believers today, all I ask is that they follow through with their logic consistently and also do not wear mixed fabric and have mixed gardens. Please look down on people as though they are sinning who do these very common things as well (and definitely make sure you don't do them either of course-- be checking your clothing labels and you need to have those boundaries between your tomato and pepper plants and all the other things you like to plant in your garden too). Thank you.

 

[The Learner]

I already presented the Proof that tats is a rotten translation in Leviticus 19:28 many pages ago. Go back and find those posts please, Friends, Brother and Sister in Christ.
God Bless, Daniel

 

[dhh712]

Thats

Leviticus was written around 1450BC Tats did not come into existence until around 300 BC in the immediate area of Isreal. Also, cutting deep in the flesh is not Tats. The cutting was for the dead and maybe related to the false gods. Tats did exist in Egypt before that time peroid. The people would avoid them anyways.,

That's what I've heard my teachers explain too. It would seem the logic is even more inconsistent then. That's one thing that really bothers me, using inconsistent logic. And that's fine if you want to do that to yourself (like make up your own rules to follow based on inconsistent logic), but please abstain from beating other people over the head with inconsistent logic . Practically nothing gets under my skin more than that.

 

[JohnPaul]

I have two tattoos would I get them now, no, but anyone who’s for getting them it’s your skin and your life, not going to post Bible quotes against tattooing as it won’t make a difference, if I had the time and money I’d get mine removed.

 

[farouk]

That's one thing that really bothers me, using inconsistent logic. And that's fine if you want to do that to yourself (like make up your own rules to follow based on inconsistent logic), but please abstain from beating other people over the head with inconsistent logic . Practically nothing gets under my skin more than that.

@dhh712

Fact is, some demographics are heavily tattooed. Many nurses get tattoos that are proven to work as ice breakers and conversation starters with patients and their families:

BluegrassRN said:

More of the nurses that I work with have tattoos than do not. On my shift, only three don't have them (of 13 nurses). We have several nurses (including myself) who have visible tattoos; one gal has them on her wrists. ...I've had a few wives tell me of their husbands' tattoos after seeing mine. It's such a sweet, intimate, bonding moment, and I feel so privileged

source: allnurses dot com

One can well imagine, then, Christian nurses deciding to use tattoo artists for faith based ink, and indeed going joyfully to the tattoo parlor.