Poll: Tattoo artist: if a Christian daughter/son of yours worked as one, would you be supportive?

[farouk]

Thanks to all who voted so far in the poll.

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[farouk]

With the very warm weather and shorts and tanks regularly worn, it is interesting to see Couples ONE loaded with tats, and the Others not a single tat...sometimes its the male, sometimes the female with the tats.

@Taken You said this, back just a bit, rather thoughtfully...

Yes, you are right.

Sometimes a husband will maybe sooner or later want to get inked up (because - as Rita said about her experience - it makes him feel good) and his wife - maybe without tattoos herself - will simply be pleased for his sake that he is tattooed.

Or sometimes a wife will maybe herself sooner or later feel good about getting inked up, and her husband - maybe without tattoos himself - will in turn simply be pleased for her sake that she is tattooed.

In any case, the fact that they are so widespread does make for lots of opportunities for faith based tattoo designs as talking points in witness.

 

[farouk]

Hi farouk,

Thank you for that interesting story. Thus, I would not judge anyone.

Marilyn.

@Marilyn C

FYI:

greenvneck said:

I would be hard-pressed to come up with more than a handful of names of my friends who DON'T have at least one tattoo--and we are all suburban homeschooling moms, ages ranging from early-30s to mid-50s, living in conservative North Texas.

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In some areas it's probably true to say that being tattooed has almost become part of being a conservative homeschooling mom in the age range cited.

There seems to be a huge scope now for faith based tattooing, anyway.

 

[Marilyn C]

@Marilyn C

FYI:

greenvneck said:

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In some areas it's probably true to say that being tattooed has almost become part of being a conservative homeschooling mom in the age range cited.

There seems to be a huge scope now for faith based tattooing, anyway.

Hi farouk,

Probably contemporary communication.

regards, Marilyn.

 

[Taken]

@Taken You said this, back just a bit, rather thoughtfully...

Yes, you are right.

Sometimes a husband will maybe sooner or later want to get inked up (because - as Rita said about her experience - it makes him feel good) and his wife - maybe without tattoos herself - will simply be pleased for his sake that he is tattooed.

Or sometimes a wife will maybe herself sooner or later feel good about getting inked up, and her husband - maybe without tattoos himself - will in turn simply be pleased for her sake that she is tattooed.

In any case, the fact that they are so widespread does make for lots of opportunities for faith based tattoo designs as talking points in witness.

That’s an interesting observation. A person “feeling good about themselves”.

(Don’t mean to go off the rails here...) But:
“Even with huge mega churches”...feeling good about oneself seems to BE the “modern mega churches Gospel”.

Personally, THAT, is a mega turn off, to me. Seems to be redirecting focus from God to humans.
Just saying, my perspective.

 

[farouk]

That’s an interesting observation. A person “feeling good about themselves”.

(Don’t mean to go off the rails here...) But:
“Even with huge mega churches”...feeling good about oneself seems to BE the “modern mega churches Gospel”.

Personally, THAT, is a mega turn off, to me. Seems to be redirecting focus from God to humans.
Just saying, my perspective.

@Taken Oh I take your point about the subjectivity of a lot of professed church activity that is not firmly rooted in Scripture, etc. I know what you mean and very much agree with you.

I guess my comment was an aside which referred to what Rita said:

I felt good about it. ..I was 50 when I had mine done..it opened up a conversation that would not have come about at all..I honestly felt OK about getting the tattoo in the first place.( I had weighed everything up , talked to my pastor, reflected on scripture ) The conversation surprised me, and it did serve as an encouragment at the time. I have had quite a few conversations at work when people notice it.

I guess the meaning there is that for her it was a positive experience and it led to witnessing.

The main point of the post you commented on was really that indeed, like you said, sometimes it's the husband that wants to be tattooed and sometimes it's the wife. A bit like the situation with earrings, really: if both husband and wife wear earrings, while sometimes the wife will have her earrings in while the husband has removed them, other times it's not particularly unusual today if the husband keeps his studs in, while the wife on certain days has not put hers in.

 

[farouk]

tattoos ... everyone and their grandmothers has them now and, they do not a thing for me, what can I say? Pretty much every one I know, and that includes Christians and myself, have a tattoo so...I am not criticizing anybody here or anywhere...

@Nancy I agree. Kind of like a permanent backdrop among ppl now.

(I agree also with @Marilyn and @Taken's comments, above, seen from their angles.)

 

[Taken]

@Taken Oh I take your point about the subjectivity of a lot of professed church activity that is not firmly rooted in Scripture, etc. I know what you mean and very much agree with you.

I guess my comment was an aside which referred to what Rita said:


I guess the meaning there is that for her it was a positive experience and it led to witnessing.

The main point of the post you commented on was really that indeed, like you said, sometimes it's the husband that wants to be tattooed and sometimes it's the wife. A bit like the situation with earrings, really: if both husband and wife wear earrings, while sometimes the wife will have her earrings in while the husband has removed them, other times it's not particularly unusual today if the husband keeps his studs in, while the wife on certain days has not put hers in.

Tat or not, like everything else hangs on personal preference, and a multitude of reasoning of each individual.

I really LIKE the look of jewelry, but personally I don’t like to Wear Jewelry, Occasionally I will wear jewelry, put it on just before I step out, and taking it off as I arrive home and walking to the door.
Can Can’t do that with tats...

And BTW was in a large box store recently, and saw plenty of people covered in tats, every bare limb, mid-drifts, necks, shoulders...not what struck my eye as attractive, some hinging on creepy.

Just saying...personal preferences, for many personal reasons.

 

[farouk]

Tat or not, like everything else hangs on personal preference, and a multitude of reasoning of each individual.

I really LIKE the look of jewelry, but personally I don’t like to Wear Jewelry, Occasionally I will wear jewelry, put it on just before I step out, and taking it off as I arrive home and walking to the door.
Can do that with tats...

@Taken I think you mean 'can't do that with tats'.......

 

[farouk]

And BTW was in a large box store recently, and saw plenty of people covered in tats, every bare limb, mid-drifts, necks, shoulders...not what struck my eye as attractive, some hinging on creepy.

Just saying...personal preferences, for many personal reasons.

@Taken

Of course, it doesn't have to be ugly.

For some of the faith based ink, there has sometimes been evident effort to make it really wholesome, and something that may be effective in communicating a wholesome faith message:

 

[Taken]

@Taken I think you mean 'can't do that with tats'.......

TY, Corrected.

 

[Taken]

@Taken

Of course, it doesn't have to be ugly.

For some of the faith based ink, there has sometimes been evident effort to make it really wholesome, and something that may be effective in communicating a wholesome faith message:

Sure. However, some stick to wholesome, some prefer satanic and the real creepy are mixed in one tat.

 

[Taken]

Poll: Tattoo artist: if a daughter/son of yours worked as a tattoo artist, would you be supportive?
OP ^

Small business owners are hoodwinked into this carte’ blanch hoax, that service can not be refused.

Remember the Faith based Bakery. Wanted to refuse service making a wedding cake for a homosexual couple? And the long drawn out fiasco?

And would that not as well transfer over to faith based tat artists wanting to refuse tatting a person with demonic or vulgar tats? Such as: a demon whizzing on a crucifix?

Just saying...

 

[farouk]

BTW was in a large box store recently, and saw plenty of people covered in tats, every bare limb, mid-drifts, necks, shoulders...

@Taken

Reminds me of a report I saw about a Hollywood producer: he wanted to reproduce a beach scene from the 1950s and needed film extras: but he couldn't find enough young women without tattoos......

Some Christians would see this as an opportunity for ppl to get faith based designs on wrists, etc., seeing as it's such a custom that is so widespread.

(As regards an artist refusing to do certain designs, in some jurisdictions even owners of photocopy stores have the right not to copy something that is obscene; I take your general point about opinions about what is and is not suitable.)

 

[farouk]

.....thankfully the artist could spell correctly.

@Taken Actually this is indeed a big issue.......

 

[farouk]

Hi farouk,

Probably contemporary communication.

regards, Marilyn.

Hi @Marilyn C

Agreed.

It seems to be borne out by the facts about the sheer, overwhelming size of the scope (and huge scope now for faith based tattooing) for work in this field.

QueenCat said:
Around here (Bible Belt), it is common, especially among evangelical Christians, for the girls under about 40 to have religious tattoos. More do than don't, especially when you get to the under 30 crowd. I hardly know any female at church that is under 30 that does not have a tattoo.

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Paula Castle took up tattooing after being made redundant from a sales job ..."I really did not want to do it. ...But I’m a bit of an all or nothing person so I said ‘yes’ and really pushed myself and I’ve not stopped...About 97% of my clients are female and that is universal across the board."

James McCarthy, Mirror dot co dot uk

 

[farouk]

...no tattooing, no shorts on men and no pants on women...

Hi @robert derrick ; (from back a bit)

I think that today there are actually very many Godly women who happen to wear pants confidently and are comfortable going to use a parlor and getting faith based tattoos, etc.

 

[robert derrick]

Hi @robert derrick ; (from back a bit)

I think that today there are actually very many Godly women who happen to wear pants confidently and are comfortable going to use a parlor and getting faith based tattoos, etc.

True. I used to be a holiness pentecost minister, until I understood how commandments of men are added to the law of Christ, and become bondage rather than surety in Christ. They fill in details, that God never said.

And so tattoos are like anything else: done in moderation adn discretion.

The law of Moses forbid it at all, and can still bemused for a guideline of conscience to day, but it isn't law of Christ today.

No person needs burn off any tattoos once coming to Christ. If I were covered with them before Jesus, then I would consider my own conscience and simple cover them with clothing as befitting saints.

Another guideline from the law of Moses, that Christians can follow by faith, is that of not wearing what pertains to the other sex. However, there are more women in cultures today wearing pants, than dresses and skirts, so pants pertain to the woman and the man.

Dresses and skirts still are not normal for men.

In the end, all such things are a matter of conscience, where there is not plainly written Scripture in the law of Christ saying otherwise.

All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

 

[farouk]

True. I used to be a holiness pentecost minister, until I understood how commandments of men are added to the law of Christ, and become bondage rather than surety in Christ. They fill in details, that God never said.

And so tattoos are like anything else: done in moderation adn discretion.

The law of Moses forbid it at all, and can still bemused for a guideline of conscience to day, but it isn't law of Christ today.

No person needs burn off any tattoos once coming to Christ. If I were covered with them before Jesus, then I would consider my own conscience and simple cover them with clothing as befitting saints.

Another guideline from the law of Moses, that Christians can follow by faith, is that of not wearing what pertains to the other sex. However, there are more women in cultures today wearing pants, than dresses and skirts, so pants pertain to the woman and the man.

Dresses and skirts still are not normal for men.

In the end, all such things are a matter of conscience, where there is not plainly written Scripture in the law of Christ saying otherwise.

All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

@robert derrick

There's nothing unusual today about a bit of ink work being given or received by women, confidently and quietly.

My wife and I talked to a young lady - who seemed rather modest and shy - who had received the wording of John 3.16 on her wrist area. It was her favorite Bible verse and mine also; and I'm sure for her it results in faith related conversations. (Such a young lady would likely even regard someone paying for a tattoo a fairly ideal Christmas or b-day gift.)

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[farouk]

This is a grey area ...

@Ronald Nolette

I guess that tattoos are so pervasive - including among Christians - that those who have them are likely to relate to them according to their own individual story.

Angelina said: ↑

I'm not sure how I personally feel about tats. I have a couple of pre-believer tats but since becoming a believer, I have not had the inclination to add more....even those that may give God the glory. .. I am not really interested in changing my tats to depict something more palatable as a believer. When people ask, I tell them my story and then tell them my new story as a believer. This also is a good talking point. .. I have no opinion on others getting or changing tats as a witness for Christ.

Nancy said: ↑

tattoos ... everyone and their grandmothers has them now and, they do not a thing for me, what can I say? Pretty much every one I know, and that includes Christians and myself, have a tattoo so...I am not criticizing anybody here or anywhere...