Where are the Christian apologists rushing to defend this falsehood? Original Sin. A falsehood that is, indeed, one of the most rotten universal foundation beams of the entire Christian “faith.”
ALL this Church stuff? Is
that what’s holding you back, Victory?
Perhaps a New Year’s resolution is in order (lol).
I am going to get Christianity out of the way so I can truly accept what’s been done for us on the cross.
I invited
@Bible Highlighter into this discussion, strictly because he seems to be
the defender of “Original Sin.” What I mean is, the defender,
here, within this website. After ALL,
he started his own thread, endorsing IT.
Bible Highlighter has
nothing to refute out of ALL of what I have written about Original Sin. Thus far, he has only concerned himself with my username.
@
Waiting on him says: my
“perspective of scripture is most likely the most perverted” he has ever seen. Again, I’d like to thank him for his compliment. High praise from the programming of the Church-Taught. I am in GOOD company. The similarly Programmed-Pharisee says
that (and even worse) about
Jesus’ perspective of the Scriptures. They call Jesus “Foreigner!” Why do you suppose? Because Jesus sees EVERYTHING (including what David, Job and the prophets say in Scripture) completely differently than how those programmed by RELIGION see things.
It was not the unlearned people, but the Well-Taught-In-The-Scriptures, Religious Bozos, who spit in Jesus’ face and called him “the devil.”
Folks, a bozo one-liner (“
your perspective of scripture is perverted” LOL) does not even put a tiny dent in the
BIG BUNDLE in which your “Original Sin” notion is now tied up.
Call in your priests, your holy men, your best apologetics. Bring in the guy who copyrighted this nonsense, St. Augustine, himself. Raise him up from the dead and bring him here for
his rebuttal. No one can righteously dispute what I have written about the falsehood of “Original Sin.” For, every Word, of what I reduced to print (posts #356 to #374) will stand True till the end of Time.
Victory, do you know what struck me, many years back, the first time the Living God started to seriously break down the Christian Dogma of “Original Sin” for me? Him saying, “You will not find one Word in support of this depraved notion that ever came out of the mouth of Jesus.” And, guess what? He was RIGHT. The most honest part of any Original-Sin-Promoter’s presentation is his total misunderstanding of the Words of Noah. Original Sin supporters always have to cherry-pick the words of Paul
and outright twist the Words of David and even rely upon a total rewrite of the Words of David to support their cause. And, what exactly
is their cause?
To “prove” that man is
born depraved.
You talk about BS, Victory. How’s
that for some self-defeating BS. But, throughout ALL their efforts,
nowhere can a Original-Sin-Promoter find a single Word of Jesus — nor can he even
twist the Words of Jesus — to support his cause.
Just the opposite! The actual Words out of the mouth of Jesus DEFEAT their cause!
THAT is precisely why I started my Original-Sin-BUNDLE by quoting Jesus at John 15:22-24.
Think about it.
Since Jesus clearly states that these men “HAD NOT HAD
SIN” before he came to them, what does
that mean… in terms of the current matter of discussion on the table? Hello? It specifically MEANS, these men HAD NOT HAD…
ORIGINAL SIN!
Makes logical Jesus-Sense. How could these men have had
Original sin… when Jesus clearly states that, before he came to them, they had
no sin
whatsoever?
Makes logical Reality-Sense as well. How
could these men
have something… that simply does not exist?
ORIGINAL SIN can only be found within the false garble of Religion. Show me one new-born babe who pops out of the womb, telling a bold-face lie.
You write:
“My question then is what about the disorder…diagnosed as such by men yes; maybe you would say it isn’t a disorder? But having no conscience at all. Like truly; there being any difference between harm or good has totally left the building.”
Victory, you are STILL seeing CONSCIENCE, itself, as a GOOD thing.
What has “
left the building” (should one
truly accept what’s been done for us on the cross)
is the amalgamation of
courtroom and judge rolled into one —
the CONSCIENCE — which is nothing more than a Diabolically-Inspired invention of humanity that IMMEDIATELY comes forth from a human being, gaining The Knowledge of Good & Evil. Since a true acceptor truly accepts that ALL of his sin has been taken AWAY, he judges himself NOT. He comes to realize, that the same measure he gets is PERFECTLY equal to the same measure he gives. It has to work both ways. And, so… he begins to judge others NOT. He sees what others, deep down, actually are. GOOD and PERFECT creations. Even
straight through ALL of their disorder, he sees others AS he SEES himself. Everyone around him is the same as he is, only
they have yet to get
the board out of
their eyes — or, perhaps in some very blessed cases, just
a splinter.
As the Holy Spirit sums it up in such GOOD counsel:
“Chill. Calm down. Cool out. Let it go. Think not of yourself nor even the worst person imaginable to you in such a harsh way of Darkness. For, you can trace every evil or sin associated with any one of you back to that person gaining The Knowledge of Good & Evil as his Master. Without Master Knowledge of Good & Evil, you simply cannot help but remain absolutely sinless.”