Brakelite
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Yes. I can offer you many proofs of you are interested.Do I understand that you are saying that the beast of the sea is the RCC?
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Yes. I can offer you many proofs of you are interested.Do I understand that you are saying that the beast of the sea is the RCC?
Good to see someone around here thinking.I'm thinking that the second beast causes the world to worship the 1st beast and it is the 1st beast who adds to 666. Reread Revelation 13 and see what you think.
Why not? To be so definitive I assume you have carefully studied why the reformers, and many Bible students since then, disagree with you. It would be interesting to know why you think they were all wrong.Neither is the RCC.
You don't even know his name. Nor do you know what his mark is, and you really are only guessing at what you do know. Did you know for example that one very well accepted title that belongs only to the RCC , vicarious filli dei, adds up to 666?Nope. The second beast is a man, a false prophet who works miracles to deceive people and his name adds up to 666.
Are you interested in truth, a real love for truth, and keen to learn? If so, then I am happy to offer some answers I believe you've never seen before that will fill in some serious gaps in your understanding, and create a line by line, precept by precept harmonious connected prophetic flow that one seen, is impossible to deny. If you are not interested, and believe you have all you need, I shall walk away. I don't want to teach and present information to people who don't care.Well, that is a given via 1938
Well, lets just say Rome, all of the Beasts were "Pagan", I think I know where this is headed, I always hear the same phrases about Pagan Rome by those who push the RCC angle, which is in error of course.
That is not what it means, 10 = Completion, the Ten Commandments are a stand in for God's complete laws. The 10 Plagues completed God's wrath on Egypt, the Church of Smyrna was to have tribulation for 10 days, which means for the complete Church Age. The 10 Virgin Brides means Complete Christendom etc. etc. etc. So, the 10 that the "Little Horn" is born amongst (into) simply means Complete Europe Reunited. They would not cleave or come together, as a single government like Rome, because God would not allow it, but after Israel was reborn in 1948, the Council of Rome came forth in like 1956 or 57, so they came together AND the Anti-Christ/Little Horn was born in the E.U. (in Greece) , its not that complicated, and it has nothing to do with the RCC.
Rome "The Beast" was taken down by the Church, we delivered the mortal wound to the "Beast System" in the Western World via the Gospel driving out the Pagan Cultures and eventually Rome under Constantine went from a Beast who came against the Church to a conveyor belt of the Gospel of Jesus Christ via the Pax Romanus. The Beast could not overcome the Church, Jesus told us the gates of hell will not overcome his church, so that is what took the Beast System down in Europe.
This is all made up bogus stuff from the cult the Worldwide Church of God via Herbert W. Armstrong. The 10 simply means Complete Europe reunited. Satan spins these tall tales all of the time. The Beast was a Gentile King EVERY TIME, nothing else. The RCC angle and the Islamic angle are both head fakes by Satan.
FIRST BEAST IS SEEN HERE:
Rev. 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he(MAN) deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image(MAN). These both were cast alive into a lake of fire(The RCC is not ALIVE and CAST into hell) burning with brimstone.
Dan. 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spakeThe Anti-Christ) I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
So, this Beast is a MAN not the RCC how do you guys go down these rabbit holes?
The 2nd Beast is also a MAN, he will be the False Prophet, a Jewish High Priest gone rogue.
Club of Rome, starting with 6 nations. They had 10 by the early 70s, but that soon increased and I think they now have something like 25 or so. Let me give you a clue. OT prophecy was localized and literal. Babylon. Local. Persia, Greece, Rome, all local literal kingdoms. In the NT, this changed. Babylon, Israel, Egypt, etc became spiritual kingdoms with spiritual characteristics. Not only so, but instead of localized powers, prophecy speaks of global powers to come. Global, spiritual powers, like apostate protestantism and catholicism, and the final global remnant of God's people.Council of Rome came forth in like 1956 or 57,
The RCC cannot be the beast. The woman that rides the beast dressed in purple and scarlet with a gold cup in her hand is the RCC. The great city, Vatican City, that reigns over the kings of the earth is destroyed by the 10 horns under the direction of the beast.Yes. I can offer you many proofs of you are interested.
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In 2003, one month before Gulf War2 the tomb of Gilgamesh was found.
I said the tomb of Gilgamesh. How do you get Nimrod?Here it comes...... 'There were giants on the earth in those days.....'
All this drama to pin the tail on Nimrod?
I said the tomb of Gilgamesh. How do you get Nimrod?
Interesting. But does Nimrod check off the beast of the sea checklist?Here's a quick primer--
Interesting. But does Nimrod check off the beast of the sea checklist?
Is he in the bottomless pit?
Was he a King of Babylon?
Was he an Assyrian?
Is his number 666?
And why would the fir trees and the cedars of Lebanon rejoice when he is laid down?
Did he have a deadly wound of the sword?
Does Nimrod fulfill any of these things?
Very interesting.Have you read the account from the book of Jasher? -It explains what is going on rather well.
Noah has a fancy coat. A mantel that he wears as a covering, but it's more than a covering. It's a symbol of authority. Wearing it means that you are the one in charge. You are the Lord of the land. -And this is no ordinary animal skin. This is the 'actual' garment that God gave Adam and Eve as the atonement covering when they fell from grace -- when they became flesh. Get the picture? Think silence of the lambs.
And the garments of skin which God made for Adam and his wife, when they went out of the garden, were given to Cush.
For after the death of Adam and his wife, the garments were given to Enoch, the son of Jared, and when Enoch was taken up to God, he gave them to Methuselah, his son.
And at the death of Methuselah, Noah took them and brought them to the ark, and they were with him until he went out of the ark.
And in their going out, Ham stole those garments from Noah his father, and he took them and hid them from his brothers.
And when Ham begat his first born Cush, he gave him the garments in secret, and they were with Cush many days.
And Cush also concealed them from his sons and brothers, and when Cush had begotten Nimrod, he gave him those garments through his love for him, and Nimrod grew up, and when he was twenty years old he put on those garments.
From Genesis 9- (my paraphrase)
Noah got drunk and left this most treasured possession unattended. He took off this garment and Ham stole it, usurping his authority. He never gave it back... he passed it on to his son and eventually it went into the hands of his grandson Nimrod who in wearing it became a mighty one, ruler, Lord over all the earth.
Very interesting.
So if the beast of the sea is Nimrod, why would the fir trees and the cedars of Lebanon rejoice when he is laid down. Isn't Nimrod already laid down. And yet this rejoicing seems to come at the end of days. Can you explain that?
Daniel 9:24-27, Seventy Literal Weeks Explained "Future"?Well then, I assume you have an accurate prophetic and historically confirmed fulfillment of those 490 literal days yes? And I assume you agree with the historians and Bible scholars with 457BC as the beginning of that period, and you have worked out exactly what took place 70 years later, 387BC?
It is the..."Man of sin" 2 Thessalonians 2:3It's going to be important very soon, for some to know who the Antichrist is.
Since I believe the Word tells us who the Antichrist is, it might be important to begin by identifying who He is not.
The Antichrist is neither Jewish, nor Roman.
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You don't even know his name. Nor do you know what his mark is, and you really are only guessing at what you do know. Did you know for example that one very well accepted title that belongs only to the RCC , vicarious filli dei, adds up to 666?
Through most of its history, Latin has been the official language of the papacy. Today, at least ecclesiastically, it still is. Its most important works, like the sixteen Documents of Vatican II (1963–1965), the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1994), and the pontifical encyclicals are even these days written in it, with translations into English and other languages. For Christmas 2006, Benedict XVI celebrated mass in Latin. Admittedly its oral use has declined, and only a few of its priests can really speak it. Nevertheless, it is the language of the Roman Church. Vicarius Filii Dei, with a numerical value of 666, is a Latin name.Only if one assigns no value to 5 of the letters and only using numerical letters (latin numbers only)....no manipulation there at all!
In the desert, in the secret chamber?????Point #10 Jesus Tells the Jews in Matthew 24, if they say he is in the desert, or behold he is in the secret chambers, believe it not.
Matthew 24
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Where did they find the tomb of Gilgamesh?