Abortion

[Stan B]

This ia a ridiculous and desperate agument.

Soooo, because it doesn't mention "oxygen" - you are free to insert any word you want?
The "Breath oof life" describec in Gen. 2:7 is claeralt referring to LIFE itself and NOT about Adam's functioning lungs.

No, He was talking about functioning nostrils. They do not function while submerged in amniotic fluid.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I have no idea what reincarnation has to do with this topic.
For those familiar with Scripture (and basic English) know that the applicable term for Jesus and Elijah is "incarnation". They were brought back to earth in human form.

"For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man, as an offering for sin. He thus condemned sin in the flesh by being incarnate, so that the righteous standard of the law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.…" Rom 8:3

Therefore, my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you ...
... fruit to God. So, my brethren, to you also the Law died through the incarnation of Christ, that you might be wedded to Another, namely to Him who rose from ..." Romans 7:4

As for your idiotic comment on Melchizedek, I am not going to waste time responding to that ridiculous comment!! Try the Bible for a change!

In post #335 - YOU vomited out the following heretical and blasphemous garbage:

“Elizabeth was carrying Elijah, who would be named John; And Mary was carrying Melchizidek, would be named Jesus.”

You are claiming here that Elijah was reincarnated as John the Baptist and Melchizedek was reincarnated as Jesus.

Elizabeth carried John the Baptist, who was uniquely created by God in her womb and was NEVER anybody else (Psalm 139:13-14, 16 Jer. 1:5, Luke 12:7).

Jesus existed before the foundations of the universe and was NEVER anybody else (John 1:1, 6:58).

As to your use of the verses in Romans 7 and 8 – they simply illustrate how you PERVERT the Word of God to arrive at your idiotic and angry conclusions.

And YOU tell me to read the Bible . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

No, He was talking about functioning nostrils. They do not function while submerged in amniotic fluid.

WRONG.
God breathed LIFE into a pile of DUST, who then became a person.

In the depths of youe ignorance, you have you missed the entire point of Gen. 2:7 . . .

 

[Stan B]

In post #335 - YOU vomited out the following heretical and blasphemous garbage:

“Elizabeth was carrying Elijah, who would be named John; And Mary was carrying Melchizidek, would be named Jesus.”

You are claiming here that Elijah was reincarnated as John the Baptist and Melchizedek was reincarnated as Jesus.

Elizabeth carried John the Baptist, who was uniquely created by God in her womb and was NEVER anybody else (Psalm 139:13-14, 16 Jer. 1:5, Luke 12:7).

Jesus existed before the foundations of the universe and was NEVER anybody else (John 1:1, 6:58).

As to your use of the verses in Romans 7 and 8 – they simply illustrate how you PERVERT the Word of God to arrive at your idiotic and angry conclusions.

And YOU tell me to read the Bible . . .

I did not say they were re-incarnated. The Bible says they were incarnated!

“By sending his own Son in the form of humanity, he condemned sin by being incarnate, For God achieved what the law could not do because it was weakened through the flesh ...” Rom 8

Your problem is your inability to understand basic English; in addition to which you don’t have a clue as to what the Bible teaches, nor do you seem to care.

 

[BreadOfLife]

No, He was talking about functioning nostrils. They do not function while submerged in amniotic fluid.

And here’s one more nail in the coffin of your “oxygen” argument . . .

Because you obvously don't own one - go to the store, and in the Book section, they usualt stock Bibles. Purchase one, then turn to 2 Timothy.

Here, we read us the following:
2 Tim. 3:16
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness

However – John 3:24 tells us that God is SPIRIT.
And as SPIRIT and as CREATOR – God doesn’t breathe oxygen – He breathes LIFE (John 6:68, Phil. 2:16, Heb. 4:12).

Ergo, a baby in the womb has been given the Breath of Life.

Jeremiah 1:5
“BEFORE I FORMED YOU IN THE WOMB I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

Isaiah 49:1
Listen to me, O coastlands, and give attention, you peoples from afar. The Lord called me FROM THE WOMB, from the body of my mother he named my name.

Psalm 139:13 s
For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together IN MY MOTHER'S WOMB.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I did not say they were re-incarnated. The Bible says they were incarnated!

“By sending his own Son in the form of humanity, he condemned sin by being incarnate, For God achieved what the law could not do because it was weakened through the flesh ...” Rom 8

Your problem is your inability to understand basic English; in addition to which you don’t have a clue as to what the Bible teaches, nor do you seem to care.

I see you're in "Damage Control" mode.
This is what happenes whan you stick your foot in your mouth . . .

The BIBLE may have said that they were incarnated - but YOU foolichly claimed that they were RE-INCARNATED.
In post #335, You CLEARLY stated that:
“Elizabeth was carrying Elijah, who would be named John; And Mary was carrying Melchizidek, would be named Jesus.”

Elijah and Melchizidek ALREADY existed ain the past.
NEITHER Elizabeth NOR Mary carried EITHER ONE of them.

 

[BreadOfLife]

You are an ignorant demonic LIAR!! I never said any such thing. The word "reincarnation" does not exist anywhere in that post. LIAR!!

Tempr, temper . . .

Don't say foolish thoings if you don't want to be exposed.
YOUR claim from post #335 is a complete LIE:
“Elizabeth was carrying Elijah, who would be named John; And Mary was carrying Melchizidek, would be named Jesus.”

What utter nonsense.
And, as for not haviing used the word "reincarnation" - if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck . . .

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I think the man truly meant “in the spirit” of Elijah and melchisidek.
But the both of you are a mess as to how you arrogantly speak with one another.

 

[Stan B]

I think the man truly meant “in the spirit” of Elijah and melchisidek.
But the both of you are a mess as to how you arrogantly speak with one another.

I am NOT in a mess. I know the Bible inside out. My enemy is outside attacking the Bible.
When I quoted Scripture, he declared "YOU vomited out the following heretical and blasphemous garbage:

Jesus as already prepared for those who would declare Scripture to be blasphemy, and assures us that it really was ELIJAH who Elizabeth bore. It was not just the spirit of Elijah in here womb, but who else would have within, the spirit of Elijah, other then Elijah:

"When they were coming down from the mountain, Jesus commanded them, saying, “Tell the vision to no one until the Son of Man has risen from the dead.” And His disciples asked Him, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?” And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will restore all things; but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wanted. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.” 13 Then the disciples understood that He had spoken to them about John the Baptist." Matt 17

As for Melchizedek. "First, his name means “king of righteousness.” Then also, “king of Salem” [Jeru.salem] means “king of peace.” 3\Without father or mother or genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God, he remains a priest for all time." Heb 7

There are Satanic cults out there that say Jesus never existed before His birth in Bethlem, but we know that He is an eternal being that existed before the foundation of the earth.

My interaction with Breath is not about Scriptural discussion. It is Scripture -vs- a Satanic
religion.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Oh my gosh.
okay.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I am NOT in a mess. I know the Bible inside out. My enemy is outside attacking the Bible.
When I quoted Scripture, he declared "YOU vomited out the following heretical and blasphemous garbage:

Jesus as already prepared for those who would declare Scripture to be blasphemy, and assures us that it really was ELIJAH who Elizabeth bore. It was not just the spirit of Elijah in here womb, but who else would have within, the spirit of Elijah, other then Elijah:

"When they were coming down from the mountain, Jesus commanded them, saying, “Tell the vision to no one until the Son of Man has risen from the dead.” And His disciples asked Him, “Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?” And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will restore all things; but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wanted. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.” 13 Then the disciples understood that He had spoken to them about John the Baptist." Matt 17

As for Melchizedek. "First, his name means “king of righteousness.” Then also, “king of Salem” [Jeru.salem] means “king of peace.” 3\Without father or mother or genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God, he remains a priest for all time." Heb 7

There are Satanic cults out there that say Jesus never existed before His birth in Bethlem, but we know that He is an eternal being that existed before the foundation of the earth.

My interaction with Breath is not about Scriptural discussion. It is Scripture -vs- a Satanic
religion.

Immmmm, I wasn't claimimg the Scripture was blasphemous.
I stated clearly that YOUR claim that Jesus was a reincarnation of Mechizedek was blasphemy.

NOWHERE does Scripture make this nonsense.

I think the man truly meant “in the spirit” of Elijah and melchisidek.
But the both of you are a mess as to how you arrogantly speak with one another.

No - that was MY positin because that is what Scriptutre implies.
Stan was making the blasphemous claim that Jesus was Mechizedek reincarnated - and John the Baptist was Elihah reiincarned.

He is only protesting now to back-pedaling fom hisa false claims.
As for your contention that I'm a "mess" - I simply have a ZERO tolerance for people who LIE - especially when they lie about my LORD.

 

[Stan B]

Immmmm, I wasn't claimimg the Scripture was blasphemous.
I stated clearly that YOUR claim that Jesus was a reincarnation of Mechizedek was blasphemy.

NOWHERE does Scripture make this nonsense.

No - that was MY positin because that is what Scriptutre implies.
Stan was making the blasphemous claim that Jesus was Mechizedek reincarnated - and John the Baptist was Elihah reiincarned.

He is only protesting now to back-pedaling fom hisa false claims.
As for your contention that I'm a "mess" - I simply have a ZERO tolerance for people who LIE - especially when they lie about my LORD.

Bread continues to repeat the same lie that he created and then accusing me of being blasphemous for repeating the lie he created and attributing his lie to me, for something I never said.

I consider it an honour to be attacked by someone like Bread. The father of lies doesn’t care about apostates, but he really gets riled up by anyone who defends God’s Truth with Scripture. Bread has ably represented his God as a faithful servant dedicated to attacking those who embrace the TRUTH of Scripture.

Thank you Bread!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I think you guys secretly love each other and come in here to keep each other company…

 

[Adam]

I still have no idea who was kicking from inside my wife's belly if gestating babies aren't alive.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Breath continues to repeat the same lie that he created and then accusing me of being blasphemous for repeating the lie he created and attributing his lie to me, for something I never said.

I consider it an honour to be attacked by someone like Breath. The father of lies doesn’t care about apostates, but he really gets riled up by anyone who defends God’s Truth in Scripture. Breath has ably represented his God as a faithful servant dedicated to attacking those who embrace the TRUTH of Scripture.

Thank you Breath!

Really??
You "never" said the following back in post #33??

“Elizabeth was carrying Elijah, who would be named John; And Mary was carrying Melchizidek, would be named Jesus.”
Here is a sceenshot, in case you forgot . . .



In post #341 - I corrected you and showed you the FIGURATIVE nature of the verses you quoted.
In other words - even AFTER I gave you a way out - you doubled down on your lie - then eventually tried to blamed it on me.


PS - My moniker on this forum is BREADOfLife - not "Breath" of life . . .

 

[Jack]

False accuser.
Not once have you quoted me saying I have killed a fetus, or agree with killing a fetus.

Do you really want to be on the sinking ship with FALSE ACCUSERS?

What did I accuse you of? How ironic! Why kill them? Let them live!

 

[Taken]

What did I accuse you of? How ironic! Why kill them? Let them live!

Why kill them Jack?

 

[Jack]

Why kill them Jack?

Yeah. You're being evasive. Why kill them? No wonder America is on death's door.

 

[Taken]

Yeah. You're being evasive. Why kill them? No wonder America is on death's door.

Nope. I was expressly clear, I do not participate or support Abortion...

So, Jack you must know, Why kill them? Why do YOU not answer the question?

 

[Jack]

Nope. I was expressly clear, I do not participate or support Abortion...

So, Jack you must know, Why kill them? Why do YOU not answer the question?

You said they're not people, not me. Abortion is birth control by irresponsible people. You don't support abortion? What do you think you're doing right now?