This conversation is becoming increasingly absurd. I am intuiting your line of reasoning based on what you said previously. I don't think the Bible ever advocated stoning someone for using their brains.
You don’t know me, I don’t know you....but you think you are psychic and know what I know? Scripture has warnings to Beware of people like you.
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LouisWilliams
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Even on this fairly conservative forum, there are some Christians who argue about abortion, so it does seem to be a divisive issue today. How can we Christians take any stand against the secular and materialistic world when we ourselves have such disagreement? A house divided against itself cannot stand.That's not true.
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Those moral relativists already have left the Church. They think they haven't. And there are not as many as the media wants you to think.
Biden and Pelosi don't cling, they mock.
I think most Christians are pro-life. 100% have voted "no" in the poll.
PELOSI'S COMMUNION STUNT AT THE VATICAN
Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on Rep. Nancy Pelosi receiving Communion at the Vatican: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who rejects the Catholic Church's teachings on abortion, marriage and sexuality, received Holy Communion on June 29 at a papal Mass in St. Peter's Basilica. The...www.catholicleague.org
Bishops repudiate "Catholics for Free Choice''
League exposes "letterhead" organization Within weeks of the first public admission - during a radio debate with a Catholic League representative - that "Catholics for Free Choice" (CFFC) is a memberless, well-financed "letterhead" organization, the nation's Catholic bishops have issued a...BOGUS CHARITY: CATHOLICS FOR A FREE CHOICE
The Catholic League is attempting to weaken the power base of the anti-Catholic group, Catholics for a Free Choice (CFFC), by challenging its status as a legitimate charity. The league’s initiative was triggered by a newspaper report that said the pro-abortion entity was eligible to receive...
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LouisWilliams
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But this Washington Post article states, quite clearly, that it is the Democrats which made it almost forbidden for anyone in their party to be "against" abortion. That is actively pressuring and forcing other people to conform to your establishment view, which is not right. No wonder Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard left their party.
Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi...were they not in the past ALL hesitant to support abortion? Nowadays, they cheer on abortion like it's a founding pillar of America.
American society's views on abortion are very left-wing compared to years prior, compare our views with Latin America's views:
Chapter 5: Social Attitudes
Latin Americans tend to express traditional views about sexuality, marriage and social mores. For example, majorities in most Latin American countries are
www.pewresearch.org
Illuminator
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A pro-abortion Christian is a contradiction in terms. It's like a pro-meat vegan.But this Washington Post article states, quite clearly, that it is the Democrats which made it almost forbidden for anyone in their party to be "against" abortion. That is actively pressuring and forcing other people to conform to your establishment view, which is not right. No wonder Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard left their party.
Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi...were they not in the past ALL hesitant to support abortion? Nowadays, they cheer on abortion like it's a founding pillar of America.
American society's views on abortion are very left-wing compared to years prior, compare our views with Latin America's views:
Chapter 5: Social Attitudes
Latin Americans tend to express traditional views about sexuality, marriage and social mores. For example, majorities in most Latin American countries are
The motive for a mother to kill her baby is the same as offering children to appease the god Mollock. It's a pagan sacrifice.
Abortion was a common feature of the ancient pagan world. So, too, was infanticide — the practice of killing one’s child after birth. So too, was child sacrifice. In pagan culture, it was dangerous to be a child. What changed all that? Why and how did such practices come to an end? There is only one common denominator — the spread of the Gospel, the Scriptures, and the Christian faith. Wherever the Gospel spread, from the Roman Empire to the ends of the earth, the practices of killing children, from infanticide to child sacrifice, would come to an end.
What does that reveal? If the coming of the Gospel and the Christian faith ultimately eradicated such practices that put children at risk, then if a culture or nation, such as America, should begin turning away from the Gospel, from the ways of Scripture, this ancient and pagan practice will return. And this is exactly what took place.
It is no accident that as America began removing God from its public life, its public squares, its schools, and its culture, what came in to take its place was a revived form of paganism. In every realm, where Christian or biblical values were removed or overturned, what came to fill their place was paganism. Nor is it an accident that the decade that began with the removal of prayer from America’s public school system ushered in the practice of abortion on demand in 1970 and then the legalization of abortion across the nation in 1973.
Such practices were heralded as the harbingers of a new enlightenment. But there was nothing enlightened or new about them. It was the revival of an old morality and old practices — that of paganism. As I began the research for The Return of the Gods, I came across ancient accounts detailing the rituals of child sacrifice in the pagan world. I couldn’t miss the connection — how the modern practice of abortion follows after the ancient pattern of child sacrifice.
Abortion and America’s pagan sacrifices
In wake of the Supreme Court’s reversal of Roe v. Wade, the issue of abortion has again taken center stage in American culture.
www.washingtontimes.com
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But this Washington Post article states, quite clearly, that it is the Democrats which made it almost forbidden for anyone in their party to be "against" abortion. That is actively pressuring and forcing other people to conform to your establishment view, which is not right. No wonder Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard left their party. 
Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi...were they not in the past ALL hesitant to support abortion? Nowadays, they cheer on abortion like it's a founding pillar of America.
American society's views on abortion are very left-wing compared to years prior, compare our views with Latin America's views:
Chapter 5: Social Attitudes
Latin Americans tend to express traditional views about sexuality, marriage and social mores. For example, majorities in most Latin American countries are
It is still sensationalism.
amigo de christo
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exactly taken , WHY would anyone support the killing of unborn babies . We need to stop worshipping
the idol of mens opinions and rather worship GOD .
In other words , THIS GENERATION needs to quit putting mans feelings and emotions on a pedastool
and rather start living by the WORD OF GOD .
amigo de christo
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A pro-abortion Christian is a contradiction in terms. It's like a pro-meat vegan
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More of your unbiblical Pro-Death doubletalk.
You and Stan have fallen FLAT on your face because you cannot answer the Biblical challenges I posed to BOTH of you.
I’ll just go ahead and do a Victory Lap for the Biblical Pro-Life side . . .
A person is an individual who has been conceived - born OR unborn (Jer. 1:5, Psalms 139:13-16).
ANY other definition is unbiblical . . .
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The reason you add your nervous "LOL's" is bevause you can't answer a difficult question.
I would LOVEE to play Poke with you . . .
I agree. However, giving people the choice to make their own decision when it comes to abortion doesn't mean that a Christian is pro-abortion.
Not really sure why that hasn't sunk in yet.
**Yes, I took you off ignore, please do not yell anymore in your replies.
amigo de christo
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People do as people will do . But the true men of the church always corrected evil behavoirs .
They would have told the churches to not support abortion peroid . As for the world , it does as it does .
My message is to christains who somehow think its more loving to let other christains do evil
than to correct them . That aint love , its a death sentence . Me , you nor anyone else is God .
We must live by HIS word , by His Spirit and we must correct evil behavoir . This generation is too concerned
with the feelings and emotions of men , rather than How God sees such things .
You can try and tell someone not to get an abortion, but we cannot force them to not get an abortion. They have to make their own choice This is what I support. As you said, "people do as people do" and you cannot make them not do something. They have to make that choice for themselves.
I support them in making that choice themselves. Which is better, forcing someone to do something or them making the choice of their on volition?
amigo de christo
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It wont work . there are more men with smiles and that seem joyful and happy and yet are leading folks right to hells fire perditon .I tried to imagine you joyful and laughing....didn’t work.
The qualitfication for todays christainity is SMILE HUG , APPROVE everyones choice , dont warn against sin or error
just hug everything . And if you gonna warn , warn against those haters who do warn the church .
That is about the only folks they warn against . Those who are serious , grave , do correct and do look out for the real welfare of the church
are seen as fearmongers , haters , judgmental , and even get titles like anti christ , satan , son of perdtion .
Even as we speak another one of these so called smiley hugy all inclusive churches has cast yet another sister
out for simply asking questions and exposing evil . THEY had no answers for her
other than OH judge not , just hug and etc . This generation has no idea what a true man of God even looks like anymore .
Todays qualifications are , A degree in physoclogy or one who can at least speak well . OVER LOOK sins
and focus on unity . That is todays leaders . But i invite us to look at the real leaders
and who they said should also lead churches . EVER heard of the word Grave before , or sincere
oh wait those two requirements are now seen as fear mongering or judgmental or hater . BIBLE TIME FOLKS before its too late .
amigo de christo
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Yes we can tell them not to . And if one wont heed , they get the casting out of the church warning .
WE cant force folks to do anything , but we can seperate those who support sins
and refuse to stop supporting sins , right out of the church . Or was paul a monster
when he said to not even eat with one who is called a believer if they .............
Time we go back to our bibles and start learning the only pattern that works and can keep a church healthy and growing .
OR folks can do as they been doing and keep overlooking leaven and then wonder why on earth the churches keep gettting so full of leaven .
But as for me , I am gonna follow what the true apostels and Christ taught . I know that patern works .
Supporting them in making a choice is not the same as supporting what they are doing if they make the wrong choice.
You also forget we are all sinners deserving of hell and abortion isn't the unforgivable sin.
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