Coincidences? Or Time to WATCH be READY for the Day and Hour Is Near

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The Light

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Jesus says HE is coming immediately after the tribulation of those days = you are to believe Him.
He is coming immediately after the tribulation, and I believe him.

Jesus says the Gospel will be preached in all the world and then and only then will HE Come = believe what HE says.
Please provide chapter and verse of this nonsense.
the OT Prophets speak against the lie of pre-trib rapture = you should believe them.
Also chapter and verse of this nonsense.
the Apostles speak against pre-trib rapture = you are to believe their words.
And chapter and verse of this nonsense
The error of pre-trib always adds to God's words what HE did not say and takes away from His words what HE did say.

The Holy Spirit of Truth does not do that - God is not the author of confusion.
Ok prove it. Let's see the chapters and verses of the nonsense above.

Why are you driven to deny the words of Christ, the OT Prophets and the Apostles?
 

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l am not at all confused about who Lucifer is. And Lucifer is OVER the bottomless pit per Revelation 9, so looks like you missed that. Do you always put your false assumptions nonsense into what others say?? You are OUTSIDE of God's Word with what you are saying.

Rev 9:11
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
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Does that above saying anything... about Lucifer being 'locked' in that bottomless pit? NO, it does not. Instead, it reveals he is "the angel of the bottomless pit", and that is pointing that he rules over that pit. So per Rev.20 when Jesus returns and Lucifer is... locked in his pit prison, do you actually believe that 'pit' belongs to God and that He is Ruler over it? No, that pit is about the abode of 'hell' which is of God, because that abode of the wicked called 'hell' is to be cast into the future "lake of fire" after Christ's future "thousand years" reign.
All I missed is what I thought you were saying.
THAT EXPLAINS YOUR CONFUSION.

Why don't go buy another one of Tim LaHayes false Pre-trib rapture books! There's what, 13 of them in a series? Go buy some of his movies too while you're at it, or any other pre-trib author or thing that is TOTALLY OUTSIDE OF GOD'S WRITTEN WORD.

No wonder you are so confused and my speaking of and quoting from Bible Scripture sounds so FOREIGN TO YOU.
Never read a Tim LaHayes book.

The problem pretribbers have is that they think that the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 is the coming of Jesus at the end of the trumpets. They might want to realize that tribulation is not wrath. The tribulation is over at the 6th seal, then the wrath of God begins when the 7th seal is opened and the 1st trumpet sounds. That said, what they are right about is that there will be a pretribulation rapture. The fact that you do not understand that the Church will be in heaven before the seals are opened is proof enough that you are walking in Biblical ignorance.
 

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IF, you truly believe the words of Christ = "Immediately after the tribulation ......He comes to gather His elect....." Matt ch24

Why do you add to his words and make a declaration of a pre-trib rapture ocurring before His Coming?

Saying there is a pre-trib rapture goes completely against the words of Christ, OT Prophets and the Apostles.

You claim that the rapture is Romans 11:25.
Romans ch11 and specifically 11:25 only will take place at His Second Coming just as the Lord Jesus said in Matthew 23:36-39

Why are you against the very words of Christ?

False prophets and false teachers speak against Christ's words.
 

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IF, you truly believe the words of Christ = "Immediately after the tribulation ......He comes to gather His elect....." Matt ch24

Why do you add to his words and make a declaration of a pre-trib rapture ocurring before His Coming?
The gathering of the elect in Matthew 24 is the gathering from heaven and earth.

Mark 13
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

Here are the people that are gathered from heaven. This is the Church.

Revelation 5
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

The people that are gathered from the EARTH at the 6th seal are mostly of the seed of the woman. In other words the harvest from the earth will be mostly of the 12 tribes across the earth. There are 144,000 first fruits of this harvest so we know what the harvest is.

How do you not understand that the fig tree has two harvests? How do you not understand that there is a grain harvest and a fruit harvest? How do you not understand that He comes for His bride the Church and returns for the second bride His chosen bride? It's all right there in the scripture and yet you refuse to believe what the Word says.

Unto those who look for Him, He will appear a second time. Over and over He tell us to watch and yet you don't believe that He is coming in an hour that you think not. You better get it together soon. The time runs short.

Saying there is a pre-trib rapture goes completely against the words of Christ, OT Prophets and the Apostles.
Isn't the FACT that you were UNABLE to produce one singe scripture to support these claims enough proof that your accusations are completely false.
You claim that the rapture is Romans 11:25.
Romans ch11 and specifically 11:25 only will take place at His Second Coming just as the Lord Jesus said in Matthew 23:36-39
Matt 23
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Revelation 12
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The remnant of the seed of the woman will have the testimony of Jesus Christ and hence they will say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord when they see Christ again. That's the whole point. God will keep His promise to His people.
Why are you against the very words of Christ?

False prophets and false teachers speak against Christ's words.
Do you not understand that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom?


 

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The gathering of the elect in Matthew 24 is the gathering from heaven and earth.

Mark 13
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

Here are the people that are gathered from heaven. This is the Church.

Revelation 5
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

The people that are gathered from the EARTH at the 6th seal are mostly of the seed of the woman. In other words the harvest from the earth will be mostly of the 12 tribes across the earth. There are 144,000 first fruits of this harvest so we know what the harvest is.

How do you not understand that the fig tree has two harvests? How do you not understand that there is a grain harvest and a fruit harvest? How do you not understand that He comes for His bride the Church and returns for the second bride His chosen bride? It's all right there in the scripture and yet you refuse to believe what the Word says.

Unto those who look for Him, He will appear a second time. Over and over He tell us to watch and yet you don't believe that He is coming in an hour that you think not. You better get it together soon. The time runs short.


Isn't the FACT that you were UNABLE to produce one singe scripture to support these claims enough proof that your accusations are completely false.

Matt 23
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Revelation 12
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The remnant of the seed of the woman will have the testimony of Jesus Christ and hence they will say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord when they see Christ again. That's the whole point. God will keep His promise to His people.

Do you not understand that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom?
The OT Prophets, Jesus and His Apostles said there is only one Second Coming of Christ.

Matthew ch24 - And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Matthew 23:39 - For I tell you that you(Jews/Israel) will not see Me again until you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.’”

Daniel 12:1-3 - At that time Michael, the great prince who stands watch over your people, will rise up. There will be a time of distress, the likes of which will not have occurred from the beginning of nations until that time. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.
And many who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life, but others to shame and everlasting contempt.
Then the wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness will shine like the stars forever and ever.

Matt 24:29 - Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

1 Thess 4:13-18 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord

Only One Second Coming for His Body = Jew and Gentile
 
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The OT Prophets, Jesus and His Apostles said there is only one Second Coming of Christ.

Matthew ch24 - And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Matthew 23:39 - For I tell you that you(Jews/Israel) will not see Me again until you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.’”

Daniel 12:1-3 - At that time Michael, the great prince who stands watch over your people, will rise up. There will be a time of distress, the likes of which will not have occurred from the beginning of nations until that time. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.
And many who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life, but others to shame and everlasting contempt.
Then the wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness will shine like the stars forever and ever.

Matt 24:29 - Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

1 Thess 4:13-18 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord

Only One Second Coming for His Body = Jew and Gentile
The OT Prophets, Jesus and His Apostles said there is only one Second Coming of Christ.

Matthew ch24 - And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Absolutely nothing here about limiting the coming of Jesus to one time. The fig tree has two harvests.

Matthew 23:39 - For I tell you that you(Jews/Israel) will not see Me again until you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.’”
They don't see Him again until they are believers that Jesus it the Messiah.
Daniel 12:1-3 - At that time Michael, the great prince who stands watch over your people, will rise up. There will be a time of distress, the likes of which will not have occurred from the beginning of nations until that time. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.
And many who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life, but others to shame and everlasting contempt.
Then the wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness will shine like the stars forever and ever.
This is about the people of Daniel, just like it says. All you have to do is read what it says and believe what it says. You have a problem accepting the written Word of God.

Matt 24:29 - Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
This is the gathering from heaven and earth that occurs at the 6th seal. I have already shown you who is gathered from heaven and who is gathered from the earth.

1 Thess 4:13-18 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord
The dead in Christ rise first. The barley harvest. Alive believers are caught up. The wheat harvest.
Only One Second Coming for His Body = Jew and Gentile
Whoops, you forgot about the fruit harvest that occurs at the 6th seal.
 

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Absolutely nothing here about limiting the coming of Jesus to one time. The fig tree has two harvests.


They don't see Him again until they are believers that Jesus it the Messiah.

This is about the people of Daniel, just like it says. All you have to do is read what it says and believe what it says. You have a problem accepting the written Word of God.


This is the gathering from heaven and earth that occurs at the 6th seal. I have already shown you who is gathered from heaven and who is gathered from the earth.


The dead in Christ rise first. The barley harvest. Alive believers are caught up. The wheat harvest.

Whoops, you forgot about the fruit harvest that occurs at the 6th seal.
Why do you, as satan did in the Garden, continue to twist the words of God?

Your serpentine twist of God's words with your words = "They don't see Him again until they are believers that Jesus it the Messiah."

The Jewish nation does not SEE Jesus again until HIS Second Coming only then will they become believers = at His Coming.

JESUS, the OT Prophets and the Apostles never spoke of two harvests, just as they never spoke of pre-trib rapture.

JESUS said there is only One Harvest = "This Gospel will be preached in all the world and then the end will come."

The Gospel is the Harvest and His Harvest BEGAN when HE walked this earth - John 4:35-38

Do you not say,There are still four months and then comes the harvest’?
Behold, I say to you, lift up your eyes and look at the fields, for they are already white for harvest!
And he who reaps receives wages, and gathers fruit for eternal life, that both he who sows and he who reaps may rejoice together. For in this the saying is true: ‘One sows and another reaps.’ I sent you to reap that for which you have not labored; others have labored, and you have entered into their labors.”

The Gospel Harvest began 2,000 years ago and it will never end until His Second Coming.

Then Jesus said to them, “The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few; therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest. - Luke 10:2

And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. -
Matt 24:14
 
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All I missed is what I thought you were saying.

Never read a Tim LaHayes book.

The problem pretribbers have is that they think that the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 is the coming of Jesus at the end of the trumpets.
Actually they do not believe that either. They believe Jesus comes to rapture them away PRIOR to the trumpets and vials. They believe that by the end of the 4th chapter of Revelation the Church is gone, raptured. Then they believe they with Jesus returns on the "last trump".

What God's Word actually teaches though is that Lord Jesus comes ONE TIME ONLY, and that is at the END of the "great tribulation", as He said "After that tribulation...".

They might want to realize that tribulation is not wrath. The tribulation is over at the 6th seal, then the wrath of God begins when the 7th seal is opened and the 1st trumpet sounds. That said, what they are right about is that there will be a pretribulation rapture. The fact that you do not understand that the Church will be in heaven before the seals are opened is proof enough that you are walking in Biblical ignorance.
The "great tribulation" will be Satan's wrath upon Christ's Church, but only His elect will be prepared to make a stand against Satan; any deceived in the Church will fall away to that false-Messiah who comes first.

No such thing as a Pre-tribulation rapture written anywhere in God's Word.

There is only an idea of Christ's 'protection' of His faithful Church on earth to go through... the coming "great tribulation". Towards the end of Revelation 12, God gave the symbols of the time of Noah's flood with the water as a flood out of the serpent's mouth towards the symbolic woman (Church).

Why would Jesus give that Rev.12 analogy of water as flood out of the serpent's mouth after the woman, and then the earth swallowing up that flood, pointing to the event of Noah's flood? It's because He was teaching us using the time of Noah and the ark. Just like Jesus represents our Passover Lamb slain for us like the lamb slain for the children of Israel in Egypt, so also He represents our Ark of protection for the end times. Even the hot fiery furnace of Daniel 3 with Jesus seen in that hot fire with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednigo, and not being harmed, is type analogy for the day of Jesus' future return with God's consuming fire burning man's works off this earth on that day.
 
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Coincidences? Or Time to WATCH be READY for the Day and Hour Is Near​

What, may I ask, constitutes 'watching and being ready'?
 

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If you believe them to be Truth then you are free from the error/lie of pre-trib.

The scriptures in Post 109 directly refute/rebuke/condemn pre-trib rapture.
And God's Word refutes a post trib Second Coming.

The Second Coming and rapture happens at the 5th and 6th Seals. That is before the Trumpets. The Trumpets are the tribulation of the house of Jacob. Jesus Hinself is on earth as King, just as He was on earth as Messiah in person. Jesus was literally on earth with 12 disciples as Messiah. Jesus is literally on earth with 144k disciples as King, after the Second Coming and rapture.

God on the GWT will be seen on earth at the 6th Seal, when heaven and spiritual blindness is rolled back as a scroll. The Lamb, Jesus will be seen on the Mount of Olives at the Second Coming at the 6th Seal.

Any one on earth, not raptured will be hiding and saying:

"And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

God on the GWT will be clearly seen. Jesus Coming with the angels will be seen. There is an "and" between God on the throne and the Lamb. Both together are the Lord. The Lord is going to baptize the earth in fire at that point per 2 Peter 3.
 

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And God's Word refutes a post trib Second Coming.

The Second Coming and rapture happens at the 5th and 6th Seals. That is before the Trumpets. The Trumpets are the tribulation of the house of Jacob. Jesus Hinself is on earth as King, just as He was on earth as Messiah in person. Jesus was literally on earth with 12 disciples as Messiah. Jesus is literally on earth with 144k disciples as King, after the Second Coming and rapture.

God on the GWT will be seen on earth at the 6th Seal, when heaven and spiritual blindness is rolled back as a scroll. The Lamb, Jesus will be seen on the Mount of Olives at the Second Coming at the 6th Seal.

Any one on earth, not raptured will be hiding and saying:

"And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

God on the GWT will be clearly seen. Jesus Coming with the angels will be seen. There is an "and" between God on the throne and the Lamb. Both together are the Lord. The Lord is going to baptize the earth in fire at that point per 2 Peter 3.
NO ONE correctly understands Revelation when they fail to SEE/understand the Gospel, the Apostles and the OT Prophets

Chickens before eggs = Genesis, OT Prophets, Psalms, Gospel, Apostles before Revelation
 

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Coincidences? Or Time to WATCH be READY for the Day and Hour Is Near​

What, may I ask, constitutes 'watching and being ready'?
Walking in Truth = Thy word is Truth
Walking in the Holy Spirit = those who are lead by the Spirit, these are the sons of God"
SEEING = get together the more so as you SEE the Day approaching = Hebrews
 

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This is about the people of Daniel, just like it says. All you have to do is read what it says and believe what it says. You have a problem accepting the written Word of God.
Your claim is false, their are those who died in faith, same Lord Jesus Christ in the Old and New Testament

Daniel below speaks of the time of the "Future" Great Tribulation, the resurrection of all, and the final judgement as the book of life is opened

Daniel 12:1-2KJV
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
 

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How do you know? Have you spent a day with the Lord in Paradise?
How do you know it is? Have you spent 1000 years in paradise?

I take God at His Word and how He inspired sentences to be constructed. When He uses terms "is as", that lets us all know it is not to be taken literally but is a metaphor for something. When He inspires HIs writers to communicate, He does so , so we can understand.

And metaphors are extremely easy to spot. any time you see words : "like", "is as", "can be compared to" and other terms that means a comparison is being drawn, we know it is not to be taken literally but descriptively.
 

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What God's Word actually teaches though is that Lord Jesus comes ONE TIME ONLY, and that is at the END of the "great tribulation", as He said "After that tribulation...".
This is twisting God's Word.

Jesus did not say "after that tribulation".
 

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NO ONE correctly understands Revelation when they fail to SEE/understand the Gospel, the Apostles and the OT Prophets

Chickens before eggs = Genesis, OT Prophets, Psalms, Gospel, Apostles before Revelation
So point out the chickens and eggs.....

John was literally there watching it happen and writing it down as it happened.

Revelation 10.

The issue is that John wrote in symbolic terms along with literal terms. John never symbolized the events, nor got them out of order, so that 21st century readers could complain of chronological order, or simply invent their own personal order.
 

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How do you know it is? Have you spent 1000 years in paradise?

I take God at His Word and how He inspired sentences to be constructed. When He uses terms "is as", that lets us all know it is not to be taken literally but is a metaphor for something. When He inspires HIs writers to communicate, He does so , so we can understand.

And metaphors are extremely easy to spot. any time you see words : "like", "is as", "can be compared to" and other terms that means a comparison is being drawn, we know it is not to be taken literally but descriptively.
It is not about spending 1,000 years in Paradise. The 1,000 years is literal time on earth, not the Lord's Day considering God’s perspective of time. The Lord's Day is the symbolic. The 1,000 years is the literal.

God's equation of the 1000 year principle to the Lord's Day was established in Genesis 2, not 2 Peter 3.
 

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So point out the chickens and eggs.....

John was literally there watching it happen and writing it down as it happened.

Revelation 10.

The issue is that John wrote in symbolic terms along with literal terms. John never symbolized the events, nor got them out of order, so that 21st century readers could complain of chronological order, or simply invent their own personal order.
the Apostle John wrote what was shown to him and he did not fudge it for anyone

the Order of Revelation was specified by the LORD and not John

Revelation is based on Genesis, OT Prophecy, Gospel and the Holy Spirit writing of the Apostles

at one point in Revelation John asks - "who are these" and the angel says to him = "Sir, you (already)know"

Why did the angel say to him = you already know.........?

Because it was Prophecy from the Book of Daniel and includes the Gospel.
 

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Your claim is false, their are those who died in faith, same Lord Jesus Christ in the Old and New Testament

Daniel below speaks of the time of the "Future" Great Tribulation, the resurrection of all, and the final judgement as the book of life is opened

Daniel 12:1-2KJV
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Daniel 12:1-2KJV
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

How do you not understand that these verses are about the people of Daniel?

These verses are talking about the great tribulation that happens to the people of Daniel. This occurs BEFORE the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. The judgement that you are talking about is AFTER the tribulation of those days. That judgement can be found here.

Revelation 11
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come,
and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.