Sanctification is not a Process

[Episkopos]

Friend, nothing is weightier than your hypocrisy, claim of right theology and higher walk while spattering out insults to all who reject your mystical, anti-Biblical claims THAT SHOW you don’t have the humble Spirit of Christ.

Let's get serious, then. If you turn to ad hominems I won't play along. So if you are serious, don't do that.

He’s as serious as any charlatan mystic.

Friend, your slander is unChristian and not welcome here. Take your personal attacks somewhere else. Start a thread about how to avoid ego boosting using yourself as an example. Do something creative.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

19 Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, through His flesh, 21 and since we have a great priest over the house of God,22 let’s approach God with a [h]sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let’s hold firmly to the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful; 24 and let’s consider how to [i]encourage one another in love and good deeds, 25 not abandoning our own meeting together, as is the habit of some people, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near.

what does this have to do with imputed righteousness?? or sayiong someone said they are as righteous as God when no one has said that?

 

[Episkopos]

well if Gods righteousness is not imputed to you. Your stuck to approach God based on your own righteousness. And you better be as righteous as God is. Or your lost.

This is a beauty. If God's righteousness is not imputed to you it means...you are NOT God. And if you claim God's righteousness YOU had better be as righteous as God.

The first lesson in bible class is... There is a God...and it's not you! I'll leave it there. Let's not get ahead of ourselves

 

[stunnedbygrace]

so someone who says they are SEEN as righteouis as God because of imputation?

Yet somene else says they claim to BE as righteous as God.

which one is manipulating words?

and who is gaslighting who? The false accuser. or the one who claims what he is?

You are definitely the one gaslighting. Because Epi has never once said he is as righteous as God. He has never once claimed that. He has repeatedly said the righteous don’t claim to be righteous.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

what does this have to do with imputed righteousness?? or sayiong someone said they are as righteous as God when no one has said that?

Exactly. It has nothing to do at ALL with your imputed righteousness nonsense.

 

[Enoch111]

Exactly. It has nothing to do at ALL with your imputed righteousness nonsense.

Since it is God who imputes righteousness, you are actually accusing God of promoting "nonsense". But that is exactly what happens when people choose false teachings over Gospel Truth.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

This is a beauty. If God's righteousness is not imputed to you it means...you are NOT God. And if you claim God's righteousness YOU had better be as righteous as God.

The first lesson in bible class is... There is a God...and it's not you! I'll leave it there. Let's not get ahead of ourselves

The first lesson you need to learn. Is Gods standard is perfection. That what he will let into heaven.

If you think God will let you in short of being sinless and perfect. You are mistaken.

 

[Episkopos]

what does this have to do with imputed righteousness?? or sayiong someone said they are as righteous as God when no one has said that?

Imputing righteousness means that a person has done something worthy of being called righteous. Abraham believed God and that faith was imputed to him as righteousness.

Phinehas killed two people...and that ACT was imputed to him as righteousness.

That's the idea of the biblical narrative.

How you read yourself into the bible..and why? I have no idea. I can't even imagine the arrogance that is required to do that.

Now if were to see your TRUE condition and listen to Jesus...then you would see you are actually a Laodicean.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You are definitely the one gaslighting. Because Epi has never once said he is as righteous as God. He has never once claimed that. He has repeatedly said the righteous don’t claim to be righteous.

so here you are gaslighting. I have never claimed epi said anything about being as righteous as God. He has claimed OTHERS have said this.

Please learn to read.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Since it is God who imputes righteousness, you are actually accusing God of promoting "nonsense". But that is exactly what happens when people choose false teachings over Gospel Truth.

God simply says a man has done the right thing to trust Him. That’s it. It has nothing to do with placing His righteousness onto the man.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Exactly. It has nothing to do at ALL with your imputed righteousness nonsense.

Once again you go all over the place

I am talking about what Epis said.

do you want to go back on ignore? Because I will be more than happy to put your there/

 

[Episkopos]

so here you are gaslighting. I have never claimed epi said anything about being as righteous as God. He has claimed OTHERS have said this.

Please learn to read.

I have the written proof. And you are simply not able to be honest about it. You claim to be as righteous as God by imputation from your own religious beliefs.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Imputing righteousness means that a person has done something worthy of being called righteous.

no. then it would not be imputed righteousness. It would be self righteousness.

Abraham believed God and that faith was imputed to him as righteousness.

Yes, His faith./ He was saved by faith. Just like jesus said in John 3.

he who believes is not condemned, he who does not believe is condemned already.

Abraham was not righteous.. He was a sinner who needed Gods righteousness imputed to him.

Phinehas killed two people...and that ACT was imputed to him as righteousness.

That's the idea of the biblical narrative.

How you read yourself into the bible..and why? I have no idea. I can't even the arrogance that is required to do that.

Now if were to see your TRUE condition and listen to Jesus...then you would see you are actually a Laodicean.

I see my true condition.

A sinner. I am the tax collector not able to look up to God.. calling out to his mercy.

when will you do this?

 

[Episkopos]

God simply says a man has done the right thing to trust Him. That’s it. It has nothing to do with placing His righteousness onto the man.

God actually does COVER a person with His righteousness in the higher walk.

But these people claim to HAVE God's righteousness as their own..by imputing it onto themselves..as per their church practice, rite or ritual.

 

[Enoch111]

God simply says a man has done the right thing to trust Him. That’s it. It has nothing to do with placing His righteousness onto the man.

You are so clueless about this that it is truly sad. Now take up your Bible and start reading what God has actually said, not what you think He has said.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I have the written proof. And you are simply not able to be honest about it. You claim to be as righteous as God by imputation from your own religious beliefs.

lol. You have written proof that someo said they were reckoned, or imputed righteousness of god

You can;t manip;ulate workds and remove them from context to make what you say true.

But hey, keep doing it, keep digging your whole as a decieve and false accuser.

or repent and admit you were wrong

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Actually he is now trying to say: God SEES me as righteous because of imputintating His own righteousness TO me but not REALLY. Im not really righteous it’s just that God SEES me as righteous.
What an abject mess.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

God actually does COVER a person with His righteousness in the higher walk.

But these people claim to HAVE God's righteousness as their own..by imputing it onto themselves..as per their church practice, rite or ritual.

No

God imputed it to us.

Dude, you are really starting to tread on thin ice. You continued false accusations of others is going overboard

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Actually he is now trying to say: God SEES me as righteous because of imputintating His own righteousness TO me but not REALLY. Im not really righteous it’s just that God SEES me as righteous.
What an abject mess.

so where should we do? Go to God and say look at me, I am righteous on my own. So you need to let me into heaven?

Do you think you will get in under your own righteousness??

 

[stunnedbygrace]

God actually does COVER a person with His righteousness in the higher walk.

But these people claim to HAVE God's righteousness as their own..by imputing it onto themselves..as per their church practice, rite or ritual.

Yes, if you are IN Christ, you are covered with His righteousness. Just as if I am IN a raincoat, the raincoat is covering me.
Remain in Me is that covered.
I in you is not that covered, although you are covered by the blood.