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quietthinker

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instead of rallying on emotions , bring some scrips to make your point . Oh wait you cant .
cause GOD himself testfied OF CHRIST JESUS . not of budda , not of the muslim religoin nor any other path .
Lest you want to call GOD a liar , I SUGGEST you start pointing to CHRIST ALONE for no other path , no other
religion will save a soul . GOTTA BELIEVE ON THE CHRIST OF GOD . PS make darn sure its the biblical JESUS too
cause far too many preach another jesus , another go spell , another spirit and so many bear with them and accept the lie .
who is rallying on emotions amigo?....oh, you mean me? Could you point out in my posts where I am rallying on emotions?
 

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I notice there's a lot of 'they's' and similar pointing to the mistakes or perceived mistakes of others....hmmm
Brother, get your act together-if you are appealing to the preeminence of Christ, at least read your bible, without scissors, cutting away that which is offensive to you, yes?
Johann.
 

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who is rallying on emotions amigo?....oh, you mean me? Could you point out in my posts where I am rallying on emotions?
Oh yes you do, appealing to the preeminence of Christ without reading the Scriptures.
God is all love-that's your gospel.
Johann.
For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.
Humility
The Bible calls that people offer an honest appraisal of themselves; or as Paul says, we ought “not to think more highly of yourself than what one ought to think” (Rom 12:3).

Pride, especially the spiritual kind, can prevent people from being used by God.

When people begin to be used by God, it is very easy for them to think of themselves too highly. Yet the New Testament itself repeatedly emphasizes that God uses the the unified body of Christian believers at work in the world, as a group, not just as individuals (1 Cor 12).

The Biblical Example of Using God’s Gifts Appropriately

In Acts 3, Peter and John encountered a crucial crossroads in their ministries. Peter commanded a lame beggar, “In the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, walk” (Acts 3:6), and the man was instantly healed. At that point, all of the attention in the temple turned toward Peter and John. They could have used this attention for their personal advantage, but they didn’t; instead, Peter said, “Men and Israelites, why are you astonished at this? Or why are you staring at us, as if by our own power or godliness we have made him walk?” (Acts 3:12).

Peter and John gave God all of the glory. In doing, so Peter and John express integrity and humility, and offer an honest evaluation of themselves.
His Instruments

Christians are meant to be God’s instruments (1 Cor 13; compare Jer 18:4). We shouldn’t praise ourselves—the mere instrument—but the one who uses the instrument, God.
In 1 Corinthians 4:7, Paul puts it this way: “And what do you have that you did not receive? But if indeed you received it, why do you boast as if you did not receive it?”
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Pride is lurking everywhere, in me, in you brother.
 

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Oh yes you do, appealing to the preeminence of Christ without reading the Scriptures.
God is all love-that's your gospel.
Johann.
yes, the preeminence of Jesus trumps all.....thats the gospel I have come to believe.....from reading the scriptures.
Here is a chart of emotions. Which ones am I rallying on? :)
 

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Read through the book of Romans--find out, and don't be selective.
That is an evasive answer Johann. I had hoped for some intellectual honesty instead of unasked for advice and and misrepresentations.

It appears to me you want a violent God; a God who arbitrarily inflicts grief on all who don't hold your point of view.

If only you had watched the presentation of Brian Zahn I posted, you wouldn't have egg on your face! :)
 

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It appears to me you want a violent God; a God who arbitrarily inflicts grief on all who don't hold your point of view.
That is an evasive answer Johann. I had hoped for some intellectual honesty instead of unasked for advice and and misrepresentations.

It appears to me you want a violent God; a God who arbitrarily inflicts grief on all who don't hold your point of view.

If only you had watched the presentation of Brian Zahn I posted, you wouldn't have egg on your face! :)
And please see Mike Winger's video clip on Zahn, and hear for yourself how Zahn is butchering the Scriptures-as to honesty, the one being dishonest is you.
I am being mild here with you-


The bible is not the perfect revelation of God-Jesus is- Zahn.
Jesus is the Savior of all that is to be saved-including the Bible- Zahn
Jesus saves the Bible from itself-Zahn
The Bible is not the final authority-Zahn

Hmmm-you don't "endorse" the "teachings of Zahn, now you do-you are not here to stand corrected, but to impose Zahn's, and yourself, views upon me.
 
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To work out your Salvation with fear and trembling means you have to keep from sinning, especially wilful sin. Paul say in (Rom. 4:15) Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. If there is no law there is no sin. Paul says in (1Cor. 14:37) If any man thinks himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

Paul didn’t come preaching and teaching his own thing, but he abided in the doctrine of Christ. (Rom. 3:20) Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sights for by the law is the knowledge of sin. The deeds of the law is referring to the animal sacrificial laws, all those sacrifices can never remove sins, so they could never be justified. This is true because the blood of Jesus can only justify us. The animal sacrificial laws was added because people continue to sin, and the wages of sin bring for death. So instead of God killing people every time they sin, the Lord gave Moses a law to use, animals. So by the other law (Ten Commandments, statutes and Judgement) is the knowledge of sin.

Paul says in Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. You wouldn’t know what sin was if there was no law.
Sin contributes to your shadow. It is not the fear of God until we experience the consequences.

When they ask you to fear God it simply means to repent. Repent means to feel remorse.
 
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That is an evasive answer Johann. I had hoped for some intellectual honesty instead of unasked for advice and and misrepresentations.

It appears to me you want a violent God; a God who arbitrarily inflicts grief on all who don't hold your point of view.
Here is the gospel diametrically opposed to that of Zahn.


 

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I notice there's a lot of 'they's' and similar pointing to the mistakes or perceived mistakes of others....hmmm
Progressive Christianity-

"It's all about Jesus so I never go N' wandering in the OT without Jesus-so at any given moment I can pause and I can say: Jesus, what do you think of that-and Jesus would say, Brian, what do you think of that? Well it seems to me Jesus, in the light of what you have taught us is-"that we need to rethink this passage"--and Jesus said-Amen" Zahn

So is that what you are doing, having a "rethink" on Scriptures, and Jesus would say to you-Amen? @quietthinker

Deeply contemplative, empty your mind till you "hear" the voice/kol

A nice discussion, which is coming to a halt.
Johann.
 
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then why make the charge that I'm rallying on emotions or are you just repeating what others have falsely claimed?
You are the one who came accusing me of accusing others . False ones must be exposed .
And i am warning us all this false all inclusive lie from hell its just that a lie from the dragon , that ol serpent .
All other religoins are of the devil .
Any love that says other religoins are serving the same GOD we do , IS A LIE from hades , from the bowels of darkness ,
from the ol serpent , from the dragon , from men gone wrong who love a lie .
 
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Progressive Christianity-

"It's all about Jesus so I never go N' wandering in the OT without Jesus-so at any given moment I can pause and I can say: Jesus, what do you think of that-and Jesus would say, Brian, what do you think of that? Well it seems to me Jesus, in the light of what you have taught us is-"that we need to rethink this passage"--and Jesus said-Amen" Zahn

So is that what you are doing, having a "rethink" on Scriptures, and Jesus would say to you-Amen? @quietthinker

Deeply contemplative, empty your mind till you "hear" the voice/kol

A nice discussion, which is coming to a halt.
Johann.
This might be direct but out of great love for all humanity i must say this . Progressive christanity is OF THE DEVIL .
Point blank and right to the point i am . ITS a lie from HELL . A lie from the serpent ,
an excuse for man to go around the truth and invent a god which serves his own self .
As i am SURE you already know . Now hit those trenches my friend . JESUS IS OUR HOPE and our salvation
 
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