Is there a difference in " FALSE " teaching & error in teaching ?

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I am simply asking us HOW do we know the LOVE we embrace is truly COMING FROM GOD .
There is a very specific answer too . ITS IN the bible .
Many are following men who are saying GOD IS LOVE , and yet the GOD and the LOVE they are selling us
IS FALSE . YES it has some good works in it .
But its still false . TRUE CHARITY DOES SOMETHING .
Their charity , DOES NOT DO THIS at all .
Its real easy . SEE BOTH versions do good works , BUT ONLY ONE VERSION IS TRULY OF GOD .
CHARITY .
MANY are being sold a false charity .
For their version of charity , though it do holler good works , IT AINT REJOICING in what it ought to REJOICE IN
and rather its rejoicing in something charity would NEVER REJOICE IN .
IF our love rejoices in a lie , THEN IT AINT OF GOD no matter how many good works it does .
IF I EVEN gave all my goods to the poor and yet had not CHARITY , IT PROFITS NOTHING .
THEIR charity focuses big time on doing good to the poor , BUT as i said , IT REJOICES in a lie
and in inquity . IT calls evil good and good evil . AND ITS MADE THE ROAD TO GOD VERY BRAOD under its love .
AND YET TRUE CHARITY would never DO SUCH A THING .
TRUE LOVE , TRUE CHARITY REJOICES IN TRUTH . Take note , IT SAYS TRUTH . NOT LIES , NOT SIN .
THEIRS DOES . IT embraces this Broad way to GOD LIE . IT REJOICES in the GOD who says
YE have no need to BELIEVE ON JESUS as the CHRIST . buddists and muslims and non believers , atheiest and all
just need to LOVE . and all is well . ITS A LIE GRAIL HUNTER . AND I AM GONNA EXPOSE IT .
it rejoices in , gay marraige , rights to abortions too , it rejoices in the love of money too .
IT rejoices in the LIE . the lie that all religoins find their own way to GOD .
SO It wont matter if they gave their goods to the poor or thier body to be burned . THEY DONT HAVE CHARITY
cause CHARITY REJIOCES ONLY IN THE TRUTH and not in inquity . SO MUCH FOR THE ALL INCLUSIVE LOVEY DO LIE .
I JUST EXPOSED THE DUNG FOR WHAT IT IS . DUNG CRAP and A LIE . AND I DO Love the peoples , SO
ME is gonna continue to warn and not give out a false charity and a false hope to ANYONE .
Part of my studies involved world religions and I am here to tell you that Christianity is one of the simplest religions.
99% faith from the heart, 1% knowledge.
This is coming from someone that is real smart and highly educated on the matter.

Lets say that Amigo and Grailhunter are in Jerusalem around 29 AD we see this guy sitting on a hillside and He is talking about God and salvation. We stop and listen and what He says makes sense. When He walks off we follow. He is with 12 other guys and as He walks He talks and we gather that He said that He is the Son of Yahweh. He explains the process of salvation and we decide that we want that and we do what He said to do to be saved.

Now we never see Him again but we hear that He feed the hungry and healed the blind and the sick which only affirms that we made the right choice and affirms our faith. But we hear that the Romans had crucified Him but He rose from the dead. We met others that believed and shared our stories and they invited us to come fellowship at a friend's home. So we go and the Apostle Matthew is there and we talk about what we all have learned. We drink wine and break bread and have a meal as Matthew tells the story of the Last Supper.

Now, when were we saved?
How much do we know?
How much did anybody know back then?
No Bible and no New Testament scriptures.
We know what we have heard.
We know that He loved us so much that He went through a horrible torture and crucifixion to save us from Hell and open the gates of Heaven to us.

With that little bit of knowledge we understand that we should use Him as an example for our lives.
Love God and love one another. We learn the morality as we go along and help those we can.
Be good and do good becomes our life pledge.
But when were we saved?

Christianity is a journey...workout your salvation with fear and trembling.....always try to do what is right....we are going to stumble and fall but He will be there to pick us up and dust us off and send us on because He is pleased with what we are doing.

But we were just two of thousands in that era that were saved....and most of those that were saved knew very little. Really nothing to read, even if they could read....

Some people try to make is so difficult to be saved and be a "true Christian" when they obviously missed the point.
Love one another.....talk is cheap and takes little effort. You and I agreed that we should love one another but more than that we helped anyone that Christ put in our path. We may not have known them and the love "is" the help we gave them. Were we save because we helped others? No. That is just what Christ did and what we should do.

Today it is still simple, it is a matter of faith from the heart. Is your intention from the heart? Are you going to mess up? Yes you will. People ask how do we find the true church....there is no perfect church, no perfect theology. Find a church were the people enthusiastically worship the Lord with all their heart. Find a church where the congregation loves each other, because if they cannot love each other, how can they love God. Find a church that works to lead people to the Lord with love. If you are only going to go to a church that is perfect, your sin will be not going to church.

Sure there is more to it but that is part of the journey to becoming a mature Christian....
Christians learn as they go that false beliefs show their colors. Beliefs that are overly critical of others and edify themselves. The church of "ones" that believe they are right and everyone else is wrong. Which usually is a way of justifying not going to church and edifying themselves.

False beliefs deny the deity of Christ or paint God as a puppet master or preach you an do what you want and still go to heaven....OSAS. Or try to put the burden of the Law back on Christians by making man-made sins or at the other end of the spectrum preaching that everything goes when the actual sins are listed in the New Testament.

Not that hard to be saved, not that hard to be a true Christians. We can study the Bible, we can devote or lives to bibleical knowledge and Christianity. We can go to College to learn about Christianity....we can get our doctorates and become professors in theology, But we were saved when we first believed.

Sorry, your question......I am simply asking us HOW do we know the LOVE we embrace is truly COMING FROM GOD?
The "know the love we embrace....? I don't think that phrase is in the Bible. You will have to explain what you think it is.
 
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Part of my studies involved world religions and I am here to tell you that Christianity is one of the simplest religions.
99% faith from the heart, 1% knowledge.
This is coming from someone that is real smart and highly educated on the matter.

Lets say that Amigo and Grailhunter are in Jerusalem around 29 AD we see this guy sitting on a hillside and He is talking about God and salvation. We stop and listen and what He says makes sense. When He walks off we follow. He is with 12 other guys and as He walks He talks and we gather that He said that He is the Son of Yahweh. He explains the process of salvation and we decide that we want that and we do what He said to do to be saved.

Now we never see Him again but we hear that He feed the hungry and healed the blind and the sick which only affirms that we made the right choice and affirms our faith. But we hear that the Romans had crucified Him but He rose from the dead. We met others that believed and shared our stories and they invited us to come fellowship at a friend's home. So we go and the Apostle Matthew is there and we talk about what we all have learned. We drink wine and break bread and have a meal as Matthew tells the story of the Last Supper.

Now, when were we saved?
How much do we know?
How much did anybody know back then?
No Bible and no New Testament scriptures.
We know what we have heard.
We know that He loved us so much that He went through a horrible torture and crucifixion to save us from Hell and open the gates of Heaven to us.

With that little bit of knowledge we understand that we should use Him as an example for our lives.
Love God and love one another. We learn the morality as we go along and help those we can.
Be good and do good becomes our life pledge.
But when were we saved?

Christianity is a journey...workout your salvation with fear and trembling.....always try to do what is right....we are going to stumble and fall but He will be there to pick us up and dust us off and send us on because He is pleased with what we are doing.

But we were just two of thousands in that era that were saved....and most of those that were saved knew very little. Really nothing to read, even if they could read....

Some people try to make is so difficult to be saved and be a "true Christian" when they obviously missed the point.
Love one another.....talk is cheap and takes little effort. You and I agreed that we should love one another but more than that we helped anyone that Christ put in our path. We may not have known them and the love "is" the help we gave them. Were we save because we helped others? No. That is just what Christ did and what we should do.

Today it is still simple, it is a matter of faith from the heart. Is your intention from the heart? Are you going to mess up? Yes you will. People ask how do we find the true church....there is no perfect church, no perfect theology. Find a church were the people enthusiastically worship the Lord with all their heart. Find a church where the congregation loves each other, because if they cannot love each other, how can they love God. Find a church that works to lead people to the Lord with love. If you are only going to go to a church that is perfect, your sin will be not going to church.

Sure there is more to it but that is part of the journey to becoming a mature Christian....
Christians learn as they go that false beliefs show their colors. Beliefs that are overly critical of others and edify themselves. The church of "ones" that believe they are right and everyone else is wrong. Which usually is a way of justifying not going to church and edifying themselves.

False beliefs deny the deity of Christ or paint God as a puppet master or preach you an do what you want and still go to heaven....OSAS. Or try to put the burden of the Law back on Christians by making man-made sins or at the other end of the spectrum preaching that everything goes when the actual sins are listed in the New Testament.

Not that hard to be saved, not that hard to be a true Christians. We can study the Bible, we can devote or lives to bibleical knowledge and Christianity. We can go to College to learn about Christianity....we can get our doctorates and become professors in theology, But we were saved when we first believed.

Sorry, your question......I am simply asking us HOW do we know the LOVE we embrace is truly COMING FROM GOD?
The "know the love we embrace....? I don't think that phrase is in the Bible. You will have to explain what you think it is.
The bible tells us what Charity is .
Charity rejoices IN TRUTH , not inquity . JESUS IS THE TRUTH . Charity does not rejoice
in a belief that other religoins and etc are serving the same GOD we do . That be of anti christ .
Charity would not rejoice in gay marriage or sin . For charity rejoices NOT in inquity .
Yet we got folks calling it love . and worse we got leaders in churches calling lambs , like me and others ,
Haters cause we expose the sin and wont accept the sin and call it good , and call it love . THEY KNOW NOT CHARITY .
Charity is not based on feelings . CHARITY REJOICES IN TRUTH . not in a false broad way to GOD .
Now its sneaky how they preach their false love . cause they do say things like we should take care of the poor . WHICH ISTRUE .
But their charity accepts sins , it accepts other religoins as valid ways to GOD . IT A LIE and i shun it to hades if i could .
Now i aint saying i shun the PEOPLE to hades that teach it . But the doctrine itself .
Charity would not point nor allow others to believe that one does not have to believe JESUS is the CHRIST .
BUT , and take note cause this is one big ol butt . BUT anti christ would . HE would . And john knew this .
He who believes NOT that JESUS is the CHRIST is , ANTI CHRIST . so lets try reminding the false broad , ever so
broad so called love of god that many embrace , THAT ITS FALSE . Cause , only the devil would cook up a love
to allow folks to believe folks dont have to necessarily believe JESUS IS THE CHRIST . And if you dont beleive me
BELIEVE JOHN . Lets dig in some bible and see how dire JESUS and the apostels were about HAVING TO BELIEVE IN HIM .
AND what would occur to those who had heard the gospel and yet beleived not . DESTRUCTION AND PERDITION .
Enemies of the cross of Christ whose end is DESTRUCTION . Paul knew it too .
YET THIS GENERATION wants no desire to have to BELIEVE that anymore . RATHER they desire to believe a lie
that has sold them a very BROAD ROAD TO GOD . IT COMETH OF DARKNESS and shall END IN DESTRUCTION .
LEt not the caps scare ya . BUT IT IS DIRE IMPORTANT we never give folks FALSE HOPE . Rather
we courage up , love them and tell them the DIRE TRUTH of the DIRE NEED to BELIEVE ON CHRIST .
Never try and hug a person and give them false hope in their dead end false religoin . OR we just hugged them to hell .
Rather , regulators MOUNT UP and PREACH JESUS while there is STILL time to do so .
 
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You still do not know His Name???
I AM that I AM .
Tell them that I AM has sent you . God , his answer to MOSES .
Many years later .
BEFORE abraham was I AM . and they TOOK UP STONES TO STONE HIM .
The jews even told the blind man , WE KNOW GOD SPOKE TO MOSES
as for this man , MEANING JESUS , we know not from whence He is .
God told MOSES , I AM that I AM .
Before abraham was I AM .
GOD IS HIS WORD . never let them fool ya my friend . MY WORD SHALL NOT RETURN VOID .
The created could not save itself . BUT THE CREATOR . HE CAN and HE DID .
THE WORD became flesh . He created the world and yet the World KNEW HIM NOT .
If even an angel , man , woman , child or speaking donkey comes and trys to sway ya ,
ALWAYS REMEMBER GOD IS HIS WORD . now let THE LORD be praised and thanked .
 

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Look again - i am standing on one leg = the leg with the hip replacement surgery.View attachment 33240
This is such a wonderful reminder .
it was written a very very long time ago .
HE came to die on a cross made of wood
yet HAD made the very hill on which it stood . GOD IS HIS WORD , GOD IS HIS SPIRIT . Its why paul
often writes and says the SPIRIT of CHRIST and in places the SPIRIT OF GOD .
WE WILL COME and make our abode with him . FOLKS are fast denying the diety of Christ
Every time a desciple did something they were not to do , JESUS rebuked it , corrected it .
Even peter got rebuked . They often got rebuked .
BUT I SURE DIDNT SEE JESUS REBUKE THOMAS for calling him MY GOD AND MY LORD . Any guesses on why that is .
CAUSE GOD IS HIS WORD . IF ya seen me PHILLIP , YE HAVE SEEN THE FATHER .
 

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Look again - i am standing on one leg = the leg with the hip replacement surgery.View attachment 33240
Notice thomas did not say MY LORD and A god . Like some would have us believe .
just like john never said and the word was A god . JOHN said the WORD WAS GOD . and they DONT LIKE THIS .
GOD is HIS WORD . Now let all that has breath praise and thank the glorious Lord .
 

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The bible tells us what Charity is .
Charity rejoices IN TRUTH , not inquity . JESUS IS THE TRUTH . Charity does not rejoice
Charity is charity and Good Deeds is someone saying it is a lie?
Charity does not rejoice....charity does not have a mouth.
And it is one thing to say you give to charity and another to say you believe in giving to charity and another to boast....same thing goes for a church....Not sure where you are going with that.
Charity does not rejoice
in a belief that other religoins and etc are serving the same GOD we do . That be of anti christ .
Charity would not rejoice in gay marriage or sin . For charity rejoices NOT in inquity .

Yet we got folks calling it love . and worse we got leaders in churches calling lambs , like me and others ,
Haters cause we expose the sin and wont accept the sin and call it good , and call it love . THEY KNOW NOT CHARITY .
Charity is not based on feelings . CHARITY REJOICES IN TRUTH . not in a false broad way to GOD .
Now its sneaky how they preach their false love . cause they do say things like we should take care of the poor . WHICH ISTRUE .
But their charity accepts sins , it accepts other religoins as valid ways to GOD . IT A LIE and i shun it to hades if i could .
Now i aint saying i shun the PEOPLE to hades that teach it .
Are you getting charity and tolerance mixed up?
THEY KNOW NOT CHARITY .
Charity is not based on feelings . CHARITY REJOICES IN TRUTH .
All this here only you know what it means to you.
Charity to your fellow man is based on feeling.....compassion.
Are we going to be able to discuss this if you think charity is tolerance?
Charity and tolerance is not the same thing.

Charity would not point nor allow others to believe that one does not have to believe JESUS is the CHRIST .
You see we are talking apples and giraffes.
Not allow others to believe.....not allow? What do you figure you are going to do?
Most of the people here think that Christ is the only way to Heaven.
Try to explain your point here....consider the terms you use.....I am trying to make sense of it.
I am all for speaking against false beliefs....is that what you are talking about?
 

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I AM that I AM .
Tell them that I AM has sent you . God , his answer to MOSES .
Many years later .
BEFORE abraham was I AM . and they TOOK UP STONES TO STONE HIM .
The jews even told the blind man , WE KNOW GOD SPOKE TO MOSES
as for this man , MEANING JESUS , we know not from whence He is .
God told MOSES , I AM that I AM .
Before abraham was I AM .
GOD IS HIS WORD . never let them fool ya my friend . MY WORD SHALL NOT RETURN VOID .
The created could not save itself . BUT THE CREATOR . HE CAN and HE DID .
THE WORD became flesh . He created the world and yet the World KNEW HIM NOT .
If even an angel , man , woman , child or speaking donkey comes and trys to sway ya ,
ALWAYS REMEMBER GOD IS HIS WORD . now let THE LORD be praised and thanked .
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The bible tells us what Charity is .
Charity rejoices IN TRUTH , not inquity . JESUS IS THE TRUTH . Charity does not rejoice
in a belief that other religoins and etc are serving the same GOD we do . That be of anti christ .
Charity would not rejoice in gay marriage or sin . For charity rejoices NOT in inquity .
Yet we got folks calling it love . and worse we got leaders in churches calling lambs , like me and others ,
Haters cause we expose the sin and wont accept the sin and call it good , and call it love . THEY KNOW NOT CHARITY .
Charity is not based on feelings . CHARITY REJOICES IN TRUTH . not in a false broad way to GOD .
Now its sneaky how they preach their false love . cause they do say things like we should take care of the poor . WHICH ISTRUE .
But their charity accepts sins , it accepts other religoins as valid ways to GOD . IT A LIE and i shun it to hades if i could .
Now i aint saying i shun the PEOPLE to hades that teach it . But the doctrine itself .
Charity would not point nor allow others to believe that one does not have to believe JESUS is the CHRIST .
BUT , and take note cause this is one big ol butt . BUT anti christ would . HE would . And john knew this .
He who believes NOT that JESUS is the CHRIST is , ANTI CHRIST . so lets try reminding the false broad , ever so
broad so called love of god that many embrace , THAT ITS FALSE . Cause , only the devil would cook up a love
to allow folks to believe folks dont have to necessarily believe JESUS IS THE CHRIST . And if you dont beleive me
BELIEVE JOHN . Lets dig in some bible and see how dire JESUS and the apostels were about HAVING TO BELIEVE IN HIM .
AND what would occur to those who had heard the gospel and yet beleived not . DESTRUCTION AND PERDITION .
Enemies of the cross of Christ whose end is DESTRUCTION . Paul knew it too .
YET THIS GENERATION wants no desire to have to BELIEVE that anymore . RATHER they desire to believe a lie
that has sold them a very BROAD ROAD TO GOD . IT COMETH OF DARKNESS and shall END IN DESTRUCTION .
LEt not the caps scare ya . BUT IT IS DIRE IMPORTANT we never give folks FALSE HOPE . Rather
we courage up , love them and tell them the DIRE TRUTH of the DIRE NEED to BELIEVE ON CHRIST .
Never try and hug a person and give them false hope in their dead end false religoin . OR we just hugged them to hell .
Rather , regulators MOUNT UP and PREACH JESUS while there is STILL time to do so .
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Being one of the people for His name, I believe I do sir, many times I have posted it, have you?
For thus says the Lord,
Who created the heavens,
Who is God,
Who formed the earth and made it,
Who has established it,
Who did not create it in vain,
Who formed it to be inhabited:
“I am the Lord, and there is no other.
“Look to Me, and be saved,

All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other.

I have sworn by Myself;
The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness,
And shall not return,
That to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath.



Have you bowed the knee and confessed with your heart and tongue that JESUS CHRIST is LORD and SAVIOR?
 

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In response to the picture on Post #207 a Brother in the LORD had a 'Prophetic Vision'!

The Prophecy: "The Lord has shown (Brother Carl) that 'dancing' is not David's calling"....................lol
 

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Charity is charity and Good Deeds is someone saying it is a lie?
Charity does not rejoice....charity does not have a mouth.
And it is one thing to say you give to charity and another to say you believe in giving to charity and another to boast....same thing goes for a church....Not sure where you are going with that.

Are you getting charity and tolerance mixed up?

All this here only you know what it means to you.
Charity to your fellow man is based on feeling.....compassion.
Are we going to be able to discuss this if you think charity is tolerance?
Charity and tolerance is not the same thing.

You see we are talking apples and giraffes.
Not allow others to believe.....not allow? What do you figure you are going to do?
Most of the people here think that Christ is the only way to Heaven.
Try to explain your point here....consider the terms you use.....I am trying to make sense of it.
I am all for speaking against false beliefs....is that what you are talking about?
I aint speakin against GOOD works . I am simply saying that many heathens can even do good works and give to the poor .
YET LOVE THEIR SIN and LOVE A LIE . and that these DO NOT have CHARITY .
PEROID .
Even if one followed budda ,and gave all their goods to the poor , STILL IT WOULD NOT PROFIT THEM . PEROID .
ITS time we start pointing people back to the TRUE gospel which DOES save .
Cornelious did a moutain of good works , He prayed to the true GOD of the jews and etc .
And Yet he lacked one thing to be SAVED . AND GOD , the angel of GOD TOLD him what he NEEDED TO DO .
My problem aint with good works , ITS WITH THE HARLOTS LIE for world unity and safety that has omitted the TRUTH .
And sadly even the protestant realm follows her now .
WELL i am gonna expose it . This world and the churches and the united religoins can call me what they will ,
BUT I AM GONNA POINT TO CHRIST ALONE , no matter the cost , and correct any and all errors i see
that are contrary to GOD , to HIS CHRIST . INCLUDING their golden all inclusive rainbow accepting and all religoins accepting lie .
Let man do to me as he thinks best . BUT THIS mouth wont be stopped , and i aint alone either . TRUE lambs
are rising up daily to stand agaisnt the MASSIVE ALL INCLUSIVE HARLOT and her lie . So even if i were to be killed .
IT WONT matter , the lambs will always contend for the true faith .
I honestly do not care what this world does to me . I already am hated more than most . YET
my love FOR GOD , FOR HIS CHRIST and for the peoples has me to continue to expose the lies of the well favored harlot
I just dont concern myself with how this world treats me or sees me . ITS ALL about LET GOD GET THE GLORY
and may souls be saved .
 
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For thus says the Lord,
Who created the heavens,
Who is God,
Who formed the earth and made it,
Who has established it,
Who did not create it in vain,
Who formed it to be inhabited:
“I am the Lord, and there is no other.
“Look to Me, and be saved,

All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other.

I have sworn by Myself;
The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness,
And shall not return,
That to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath.



Have you bowed the knee and confessed with your heart and tongue that JESUS CHRIST is LORD and SAVIOR?
Jesus had a word he gave a long , long time ago . I HAVE GIVEN THEM YOUR NAME . Ponder on
the beauty of that for a bit . I have shewed them YOUR NAME . YOUR NAME .
Yet how .............
PHILLIP if ya have seen me YE HAVE SEEN the FATHER .
You are not even fifty years old and YOU have SEEN abraham .
Now watch the beauty of HIS REPSONSE . HE DIDNT say , WELL Yeah i have seen abraham .
HE said something much , much deeper than just that . HE said before abraham was I AM .
NOW WHY DID THE JEWS SUDDENLY PICK UP STONES TO STONE HIM .
WHAT was JESUS saying that bothered them so very much .
BEFORE abraham was , I AM . Examine the last two words for THE ANSWER .
GOD IS HIS WORD and HIS WORD IS HE . PRAISE THE KING and never let them convince you otherwise .