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Ritajanice

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Paul said..."I die daily"...

What he's explaining, is that the reason that he.... "has done more than all the other apostles combined" (more than 11 or 12 other Apostles combined)..

= .... is because its "Christ who works in me, mightily"..... Paul said.

See that?

That is a willing Vessel, obedient, but not to works...or self effort........ only to God's will, direction, and purpose.

This is why Paul says He can do "all things through Christ", and never said.....>>"i can do all things through my hard work and self effort".

See, when you do it that way, Johann, you end up here......

A.) Jesus said......"apart from me you can do NOTHING".
Your posts are getting better and better...Amen! and Praise Jesus.
 

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So "free will" is out the backdoor-we are passive, and let God do ta ergoi through us?

Act 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.

Php 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure


1) "For it is God which worketh in you" (theou gar estin ho energon en humin) "For God is the one working (operating) in you," Heb_13:21. God works in the believer preserving them in salvation and leading them to obedient service, Php_1:6; Rom_8:14.

2) "Both to will and to do his good pleasure" (kai to thelein kai to energein huper tes eudokias) " h to will and to operate (do or work) on behalf of his good will," Joh_1:13; Joh_7:17.
God's Holy Spirit initiates every impulse in men that enables them to will, to choose and to do the will of God, Rom_7:18; Pro_16:1; Heb_13:20-21.
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Transliteration: Aphorisate
Morphology: V-AMA-2P
Verb - Aorist Imperative Active - 2nd Person Plural
Strong's no.: G873 (ἀφορίζω)
Meaning: To rail off, separate, place apart.
ἔργον
Transliteration: ergon
Morphology: N-ANS
Noun - Accusative Neuter Singular
Strong's no.: G2041 (ἔργον)
Meaning: Work, task, employment; a deed, action; that which is wrought or made, a work.

Transliteration: ergon
Morphology: N-NNS
Noun - Nominative Neuter Singular
Strong's no.: G2041 (ἔργον)
Meaning: Work, task, employment; a deed, action; that which is wrought or made, a work.
προσκέκλημαι
Transliteration: proskeklēmai
Morphology: V-RIM/P-1S
Verb - Perfect Indicative Middle or Passive - 1st Person Singular
Strong's no.: G4341 (προσκαλέω)
Meaning: To call to oneself, summon.

Once we are called/summoned by the Spirt-we have to ergon to do-our freewill working in harmony with the Spirit-or are you against freewill?

Johann.
We are called to follow in the steps of Christ my friend .
Who i might add also had this to say . LORD if it be possible remove this cup from me .
Never the less , NOT MY WILL , BUT YOURS BE DONE .
YES Indeed my friend . Even paul reminded us , OBEY THE SPIRIT , NOT the FLESH .
Exactly my friend . Now raise those hands , Cause its LORD PRAISING TIME AGAIN in the building and round the world .
 
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2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

BELAHAVEI EISH ("in flaming fire" YESHAYAH 66:15), giving Onesh to the ones not knowing Hashem and to the ones
not obeying the Besuras HaGeulah of [Moshiach] Yehoshua Adoneinu.

What happened @Behold?-this verse clearly teaches that we need to yield obedience to the gospel-correct?

Johann.
a fat reminder just came to me my friend . And it came from a letter in the bible .
Notice what paul says he told peter before them all . That peter walked not according to what , THE GOSPEL .
Peter was not obeying the gospel . When he was seperating the jews from the gentiles .
ITS IN galations . SOLID PROOF right from the bible .
 
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We are called to follow in the steps of Christ my friend .
Who i might add also had this to say . LORD if it be possible remove this cup from me .
Never the less , NOT MY WILL , BUT YOURS BE DONE .
YES Indeed my friend . Even paul reminded us , OBEY THE SPIRIT , NOT the FLESH .
Exactly my friend . Now raise those hands , Cause its LORD PRAISING TIME AGAIN in the building and round the world .
-and let the sound of the gospel reverberate throughout the heavens and be like a hammer-breaking the hardened, callous hearts. Amen!
Johann.
 
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We are led by the Spirit of God....The Holy Spirit.

Romans 8:14
For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.

John 16:13
“When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.”

Romans 5:5
And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

Galatians 5:22
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness.
 
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-and let the sound of the gospel reverberate throughout the heavens and be like a hammer-breaking the hardened, callous hearts. Amen!
Johann.
Yes indeed my friend . And let us always remember this as well .
IF a man has works and yet believeth not that JESUS IS THE CHRIST , that aint no gospel either .
Cause a huge false end time gospel known as the social all inclusive one is teaching
folks a lie . Its saying folks dont have to even BELIEVE IN JESUS and it preaches another idea known as the social gospel .
ITS A LIE from hades my friend . Let us always remember that as well
 

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We are led by the Spirit of God....The Holy Spirit.

Romans 8:14
For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.

John 16:13
“When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.”

Romans 5:5
And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

Galatians 5:22
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness.
Yes , but let us also not forget this part about the SPIRIT . NO MAN by the SPIRIT calleth JESUS accursed .
And no man but BY THE SPIRIT calls HIM LORD . SO , yeah all them other religions , THEIR DO GOODS cannot save them
NOR are they walking IN THE SPIRIT . THE SPIRIT , yeah IT TESTIFIES OF JESUS , not budda and good works
or the muslim god and good works . IT ACTUALLY TESTIFIES OF JESUS CHRIST . SO lets not forget that .
 
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a fat reminder just came to me my friend . And it came from a letter in the bible .
Notice what paul says he told peter before them all . That peter walked not according to what , THE GOSPEL .
Peter was not obeying the gospel . When he was seperating the jews from the gentiles .
ITS IN galations . SOLID PROOF right from the bible .
Also in James brother-
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
Jas 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:

Jas 1:24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.

Jas 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Jas 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.


Jas 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

--and here brother-


Jas 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?


Jas 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

Jas 2:16
And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Jas 2:21
Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

Jas 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

Jas 2:24
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Jas 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Guess that settles that-

God bless brother.
Johann.

 
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Also in James brother-
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
Jas 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:

Jas 1:24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.

Jas 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Jas 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.


Jas 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

--and here brother-



Jas 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

Jas 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

Jas 2:16
And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Jas 2:21
Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

Jas 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

Jas 2:24
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Jas 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Guess that settles that-

God bless brother.
Johann.
Yes indeed my friend . I was once that dead faith man . OH i had head knowledge about JESUS
i had heard the gospel . I even quoated the gospel to an atheist in the marine corps .
YET I LOVED MY SIN , I DID NOT follow CHRIST , my faith was dead , DEAD .
JUST Like paul also said .
Notice when paul was writing to timothy what he had to say about those who were not taking care of their widows .
What did paul say , specifically about those who did not give , did not provide for specially their own .
HE SAID THEY HAVE DENIED THE FAITH . BAM JUST LIKE JAMES TAUGHT .
 

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You judge a lot for a deceiver., Ronald.

Is carnal finger pointing on forums your only ministry?

You dont write Threads because you just want to talk about your sinning and confessing, instead?

So anyway.....

Why do you blame Paul, for what you can't understand?
Its not His fault that your cult has shut you mind off, and all you can to is believe that Christianity, is..."sin, confess, repeat"..

You are the Issue.......not the Pauline Theology that is trying to help you.
Okay Haman the Agagite! I don't judge at all! I point you to what the word of God warns for your false gospel.

If you feel judged then maybe it is the Holy spirit showing you the errors of your you never sin anymore lie.
 

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Big difference between believe/trust and obeying the gospel-

The Gospel is the Cross of Christ., that we preach., share.

"believe in Jesus, and be saved".

The Preaching of the Cross, is "The Gospel of the Grace of God".

You obeyed it when you received Christ into your heart.

Discipleship follows...

That is the : "go into all the world"....
 
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Yes indeed my friend . I was once that dead faith man . OH i had head knowledge about JESUS
i had heard the gospel . I even quoated the gospel to an atheist in the marine corps .
YET I LOVED MY SIN , I DID NOT follow CHRIST , my faith was dead , DEAD .
JUST Like paul also said .
Notice when paul was writing to timothy what he had to say about those who were not taking care of their widows .
What did paul say , specifically about those who did not give , did not provide for specially their own .
HE SAID THEY HAVE DENIED THE FAITH . BAM JUST LIKE JAMES TAUGHT .
-and Matthew 25-the whole chapter-and I concur with you brother, mere accumulative head knowledge ain't going to cut it-it is the putting of the gospel into daily practice-it is walk the talk, not talk the walk.

You were a Marine, so when your sergeant gave you a COMMAND-you promptly obeyed, no questions asked!
I notice a lot of "talking" online-the Imperatives in the gospels and the epistles are COMMANDS-but it would seem the "cost is to high" and a certain redefinition is the norm, I hope you understand what I'm getting at here brother.

Jas 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
Jas 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
Jas 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Jas 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
Jas 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Jas 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Jas 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Later
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Okay Haman the Agagite! I don't judge at all! I point you to what the word of God warns for your false gospel.

If you feel judged then maybe it is the Holy spirit showing you the errors of your you never sin anymore lie.

If you have sin, then You need to get saved.
Once you do, then "God hath made Jesus to be sin for us".

Also, I dont feel judged.... I feel great, actually.
What i I said, is that you had judged, both Ritajanice and myself, falsely.

Also,

There is no sin in Christ, and "all the born again are in Christ".
 
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The Gospel is the Cross of Christ., that we preach., share.

"believe in Jesus, and be saved".

The Preaching of the Cross, is "The Gospel of the Grace of God".

You obeyed it when you received Christ into your heart.

Discipleship follows...

That is the : "go into all the world"....
Same with Matthew 25-James-Be DOERS of the word, not hearers only-seems you are in agreement.
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Guess you are on par with @Kermos who is against "free-willians"

J.

Im not a John Calvinist.

I am not familiar with Kermos....so, i can't know what they believe.

But here is how i can find out.

I'll ask them......"do you believe you can lose your salvation", and that is the KEY Question that bears fruit, everytime.

If he said no.... i'd say... what about the Law of Moses.... do you believe that God saved us in the New Covenant so that we can fall back into the old covenant and try to keep the law of Moses?
And if he said........ there are 613 of them, and i only know 3.

Good answer.........so that's a no.
 
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All the name calling has really turned me off from your posts.

I've watched you misunderstand what others have written to you, or of others, and you've turned on them, I don't care how you justify it to yourself, I can't stomach it any longer. Or someone gives a disagreement, and yes, you have, you've acted just like episkopos. And it makes me heartsick.

OK, now you can turn on me too, I'm expecting it, and I'll be praying for you. But you should listen when most of those around you are telling you the same thing.

Never refuse a breath mint.

Much love!
Thank you.
I have spent some time in thoughtful prayer, for I feared you were falling for Beholds hypet-grace, whole of bible denying Pauline only, quasi- Calvinistic theology.❤️

I'm sorry if my questions have caused you offense or any hindrance. Please forgive what I thought you answered questionable to me as his leaven. I'm sorry !
 

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I have spent some time in thoughtful prayer, for I feared you were falling for Beholds hypet-grace, whole of bible denying Pauline only, quasi- Calvinistic

Your prayers are unanswered.

Marks does not believe that the Grace of God is "hyper"., and He's not a Calvinist.

You should ask him, instead of just posting something you are pretending. is true

Ask Him.

And you should pray that God opens your eyes and shows you that you are in a CULT.
There is the prayer you need to believe, Keturah.
 
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If you have sin, then You need to get saved.
Once you do, then "God hath made Jesus to be sin for us".
It is not for you to say to another believer that if they have sin, they need to get saved. They ARE saved, and commit ACTS of sin, not habitually-not living in a STATE of sin

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Can a believer commit an ACT of sin, in word, thought and deed? Yes, no doubt about that.
Johann.
 
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Thats our Discipleship...........not our Salvation.

Salvation is Jesus on the Cross..........and you can't DO that one.
I concur here-we cannot "save ourselves, or pull ourselves up by our own boot straps"-It is wholly an act of YHVH.

Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Johann.
 
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