Entire Sanctification = "In Christ"

[Behold]

This isn’t about creeping under anyone’s skin....this is about truth, she blatantly lied....and accused me of not reading properly...I don’t take that lightly....the truth will prevail....my eyes, ears and heart are very much on God.

The liar's here, and they are legion on this forum, will tell you that you are the problem, as they trip over their self effort to try to keep themselves saved.

They'll insult you, and then when you respond accordingly, they'll tell you that you are "not showing Christ's love". ...or that "you just dont understand the word"...... etc, etc.

Get use to it. as that is how their carnal mind's all work together.

 

[Ritajanice]

The liar's here, and they are legion on this forum, will tell you that you are the problem, as they trip over their self effort to try to keep themselves saved.

They'll insult you, and then when you respond accordingly, they'll tell you that you are "not showing Christ's love".

Get use to it. as that is how their carnal mind's all work together.

I see it, Brother, I see it....Amen!!

 

[Behold]

When we become born again, works do follow, but not in our own strength/ we don’t work at it.

I don’t work, it’s God who works in me....it just happens very naturally....and when I’m guided to help my neighbour with her garden, it’s the Lord leading me to help her.....I don’t even think about it...it just happens..if that makes sense.LOL...He definitely directs my path for sure...absolutely amazing!

Exactly.

That is God loving through you.. as your helping hand.

That is real discipleship.

 

[amigo de christo]

Live daily for their sins, what does that mean?

A Born Again has been forgiven all of their sins, when they were birthed...they now have the indwelling Holy Spirit, they are now under grace and are in God’s Kingdom.

What role does the indwelling Holy Spirit play?

What work does he do in his child?

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◄ 1 John 3:9 ►

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Context Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. New Living Translation Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. English Standard Version No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Standard Bible Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Literal Bible Anyone having been born of God does not practice sin, because His seed abides in him, and he is not able to continue sinning, because he has been born of God. King James Bible Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. New King James Version Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

Those who live daily for their sins are not born again . That is my point .

 

[Keturah]

Oh pleazzzzzzzzzze!

 

[Ritajanice]

Exactly.

That is God loving through you.. as your helping hand.

That is real discipleship.

Amen...Amen....Amen!...see how he reaffirmed all that I believe through you....Praise God and thank you Lord for speaking to me so very powerfully through this wonderful anointed teacher....in Jesus Name...Amen!!

 

[Johann]

That's an insult you gave her..
Do you think Marks will offer you a correction?
Hummmm.

And, she's already discerned you as works obsessed with a little bit of Salvation mixed in with it.

Speaking the truth, she is stunted in her one liner-and no discernment, at all-no room for growth-a babe
The one with "a little bit of this-a little bit of that-is you brother" No offense.

Heb 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

If you want to save your credibility on your thread, muzzle the ox-until she has a more clearer picture of the vicarious atonement, the cross, the resurrection, and the Pauline epistles.

Friendly advice-that's IF you will accept.
Johann.

 

[Behold]

Prove me wrong-or my post wrong-you are incapable of offending me sister.
I see loopholes" in your "theology" since you don't have a gospel to the lost and dying in this world and on this Forum.

Listen..

we are on a Christian Forum...

this isn't a "lost and dying world"...

Its a place where Christians, or something like, are talking about Theology.. So, for you to expect anyone to produce "world wide evangelism" in every post, is really just being silly, Johann.

Im an Evangelist, and even i dont post "how to get saved" in every post, and you certainly dont do it.

You know, there is something about your self righteousness, when its get going, that is really offensive.
Marks has that also... on occasion......but not like you.
And thank God that neither of you are like Episkopos, in that regard.


C'mon..... just deal with the Thread's topic, and leave the Judging to the word of God.

 

[amigo de christo]

I'm so frustrated @ the very same folks causing confusion & division of the word, acting like the right hand of God in judgement, belittling, needling, being tossed about by every wind of doctrine, whining, & ect.
I have been with these very same folks in several other forums & THIS is always how they behave!!!!!

I want PEACE among the SUPPOSED " brethren !

You have been a ROCK, friend of Christ, an encouragement to stay dug in & on track........thank you.

Time will tell how this shapes up but I hate losing faith in those I once found grounded.

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All we can do ,by grace is continue to exhort with all sound doctrine .
Those who love the truth shall have the peace of GOD amongst themselves .
Correction and all sound doctrine must continue .
Some will hear some will not . Onwards in the LORD we must go and continue daily with all exhortations
that bring honor to the glorious Lord .

 

[Ritajanice]

Listen..

we are on a Christian Forum...

this isn't a "lost and dying world"...

Its a place where Christians, or something like, are talking about Theology.. So, for you to expect anyone to produce "world wide evangelism" in every post, is really just being silly, Johann.

Im an Evangelist, and even i dont post "how to get saved" in every post, and you certainly dont do it.

You know, there is something about your self righteousness, when its get going, that is really offensive.
Marks has that also... on occasion......but not like you.
And thank God that neither of you are like Episkopos, in that regard.


C'mon..... just deal with the Thread's topic, and leave the Judging to the word of God.

Very true...sad to say....Amen!!

 

[amigo de christo]

Oh pleazzzzzzzzzze!

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Thats my response to the false doctrine of the deluison of the all inclusion .
No to anything that contradicts the pure and lovey words of Our LORD .

 

[Johann]

Brother, I am not trying to offend you....I’m not here to prove you wrong....why, because you never post anything of yourself....

It’s always copy and paste of another’s interpretation of scripture....does the Holy Spirit lead you to copy and paste other people’s understanding of scripture.

I have been in many debates in my life-and can hold my own-can you? As for the copy and paste-prove the posts wrong-learn to discern-grow, and not be in a STATE of being an INFANTILE.
Johann.

 

[amigo de christo]

Oh pleazzzzzzzzzze!

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See that lil mouse . That is the response of the lambs to any doctrine contrary to the pure and holy , lovely doctrine in the bible .
Inspired pure and holy doctrine of God are what lambs do feast upon .
Let the LORD be praised .

 

[Ritajanice]

I have been in many debates in my life-and can hold my own-can you? As for the copy and paste-prove the posts wrong-learn to discern-grow, and not be in a STATE of being an INFANTILE.
Johann.

This is all about you ...not one word in the Spirit...just all about @Johann ....Self....Self....Self...there is no spiritual growth in self.

We must truly be in the Spirit to grow.

 

[Johann]

Listen..

we are on a Christian Forum...

this isn't a "lost and dying world"...

Its a place where Christians, or something like, are talking about Theology.. So, for you to expect anyone to produce "world wide evangelism" in every post, is really just being silly, Johann.

Im an Evangelist, and even i dont post "how to get saved" in every post, and you certainly dont do it.

You know, there is something about your self righteousness, when its get going, that is really offensive.
Marks has that also... on occasion......but not like you.
And thank God that neither of you are like Episkopos, in that regard.


C'mon..... just deal with the Thread's topic, and leave the Judging to the word of God.

Teach her to get past the A.B.C's Behold-she claims to be born again for how many years?-and still not familiar with the gospels nor the Pauline epistles

Is "being birthed in the Spirit" the gospel? C'mon brother-you can do better than that-and pride and me "knowing it all" let it be far from me.
Johann.

 

[Behold]

If you want to save your credibility on your thread, muzzle the ox-u

God saves my "credibility", as He is the author of it.

And RitaJanice is connected to Paul in a way that you quite possibly will never understand, and that is not because i have not tried to help you for about a year.

Now.

go ahead and "cut and paste" as that is your ministry.

 

[Behold]

Teach her to get past the A.B.C's

She is famiiiar with it.

Also, a mature believer is not trying to worry about "1000 things to do next".

That is not Discipleship.

 

[Ritajanice]

Speaking the truth, she is stunted in her one liner-and no discernment, at all-no room for growth-a babe
The one with "a little bit of this-a little bit of that-is you brother" No offense.

See again @Johann ...this is all about what you think of another Sister in Christ...there is no spiritual talk....it’s just, once again, self,self,self......I take no offence whatsoever on what you have to say about me..why..as I’m in the Spirit...and not the self..

 

[Lizbeth]

Too many sat under the wrong men for far too long .
We must simply return to the bible and learn it well . These are the last hours on earth .
We must contend for the true faith , while there still be time to do so .
JESUS told them . He warned them all . He who cometh to me
and keeps not my sayings , a hearer but not a doer has built their house on sinking sand .
AND JAMES reminded the church about it . AS did paul , as did others .
WHOSE servant we are , IS WHO WE OBEY .
Shall we continue in SIN that grace may abound . GOD forbid .
CHURCH dont you know that to whom you yield yourselves as servants to OBEY . HIS SERVANTS YOU ARE .
Aint no middle in that . Whether of sin unto death or of OBEDIANCE unto righteousness .
HE WHO LOVES ME KEEPS MY SAYINGS . The true litmus test of a lamb can easily be seen
IN WHO IT FOLLOWS . WILL IT BE MEN OR CHRIST . As for the lambs , ITS CHRIST . I feel horrible
for so many . i truly do . WE must point to CHRIST , teach ALL HIS teachings , teach the Word and words of GOD .
Teach that bible . SO many no longer do .

True believers have left their life of sin behind...we no longer live a life of sin overall...we've experienced a sea change and are now walking in a new direction.

But it seems to be just observable that a Christian might still do wrong once in a while, either in committing or omitting as Johan pointed out, and if so we have an Advocate. I believe after coming to faith, we're not necessarily a finished work yet. Some people need healing or deliverance in areas of their soul, some might have a bondage in some area that requires more of a battle to get free of it. And it is possible to fall back into sin like a dog returning to its vomit. But in the main, as born again believers, the body of Christ, we're no longer sinning and are keeping His commands or learning to, by the Spirit in us who is leading us into all truth.

I know someone who I would say is, or has been, weak in the faith, he has problems....he came to the Lord, but at one point fell into the mire...recently it came to a crisis and the Lord delivered him from all that he had fallen into. He is a believer, but succumbed to the lure of the devil and flesh for a while, but is now back on track with the Lord, relationally too. If he weren't born of the spirit would God have answered his prayers and delivered him? I believe that was God's mercy, knowing his problems and the difficulties and limitations he has in life. I know someone else who knows the Lord, but still has serious mental health and thought processing problems. How I'm trying to understand it, it seems as though his spirit is saved, but in the area of the soul he still needs deliverance and healing. Born again believers can still and often do have problems of various sorts, and whatever anyone's particular problems may be, I believe that is the suffering and cross we carry in the time of testing and proving of our faith in the wilderness. The way I'm seeing this is that the weapon forged against the child of God will not prosper, but God uses the suffering of that weapon to work against the devil by working it together for our ultimate spiritual good until such time as deliverance comes.

The plumbline of God's word and teachings of Jesus is what it is...straight and true and unchanging. But I think, oh my, from what I'm seeing, it sometimes can be a messy and difficult business and not so cut and dried endeavouring to line up perfectly with it. Anyway, these are my thoughts and observations.

 

[amigo de christo]

I have been in many debates in my life-and can hold my own-can you? As for the copy and paste-prove the posts wrong-learn to discern-grow, and not be in a STATE of being an INFANTILE.
Johann.

I wish folks would cut copy and paste only more scriptures .
The beauty about scripture is , INSPIRED by GOD it is and it works good to the soul of the hearer and the doer of the Word .
Truth is i wish every leader of every church would stand up and say aloud to all .
Folks we are going back into the bible . Where we will learn and grow in wisdom by the Holy Ghost .
Opinions are opinions and opinions contrary to the word are many .
We must let the WORD form our opinion and not our opinions try and twist the word to suit our opinions .
But this many have done . Not allowing the WORD to form their mind
but rather what they already cling too and beleive , they use their own mind to recreate scripture into something
that contradicts the very scripture .
Time for an all out exodus from the carnal mind and may GOD form in the minds of the people THE THINGS pleasing to HIM .
You already know this my friend .
But if you take notice you will find that many teachings in the churches , and when or IF they even try and bring
a wee bit of scripture , they use to justify the teaching they follow
Rather than simply learning the WORD for themselves , they twist what little word they hear to fit their own
carnal mindset . BUT THE WORD OF GOD IS SHARP and POWERFUL
and the lambs do feast of the TRUTH . And the TRUTH takes hold and reforms , reshapes the mind
of the beleiver more and more .
Many now say come ye to our church to our leader and learn ye the things of GOD
And yet their teacher is not teaching pure sound doctrine .
Many cliam to KNOW GOD , to hear from GOD . But had they examined
through the scriptures , they would have known whether or not the doctrine was coming FROM GOD
or from men . Bible time is all i can say to many . And let us learn the things of GOD well .