Do you believe that ALL babies that die go to Heaven or only "the elect"?

[JunChosen]

You still are not telling us how to be saved. I will give you one hint….

Acts 2:38.

Ever hear of it?

Sure has! Acts 2:38 is a principle, that is if anyone has to be saved he must be baptized in Jesus' name! Is this water baptism? Most certainly NOT!!! Here is the hint....

Ephesians 1:1-6 and Titus 3:5.

Ever hear of it? Lol

I urge you to go back to the drawing board and restudy your Bible!!!

To God Be The Glory

 

[MatthewG]

I wonder if you know what you have said.

You have referred to the foreshadowing (the light and sign unto the gentiles) of the very thing that has now also occurred among the gentiles--that is, that God has indeed turned the gentiles over to Satan for a time, just as He did with Israel for wanting a man to rule over them rather than God.

This the result of that "lie" and anti-Christ spirit already at work 2,000 years ago, and has caused the foretold "strong delusion."

But the evil is not in or of God who is alone holy and pure. Even so, it is as He said, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Isaiah 45:7

I was reading in Samuel The other day, and I found that in the verse that God had sent a evil spirit of God upon Saul.

A coworker said it could’ve been the devil that he sent.

 

[face2face]

Titus 3:5.

Matt 28:19 hasn't applied to you then?

 

[MatthewG]

Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me Psalm 51:5

Try again Matt!...I can't even say it was a nice try!

If this is the extent of your evidence I think you should concede now.

F2F

I’m not gonna fight you about it man. You can believe whatever you want. That’s fine.

 

[face2face]

That's fine.
Seems like your RCC upbringing still has a grip on you.

And it seems like you still need to get a grip!

 

[face2face]

I’m not gonna fight you about it man. You can believe whatever you want. That’s fine.

You misquoted a verse Matt, many people do it...the important thing is you understand Babies do not and can not sin.
F2F

 

[ScottA]

I was reading in Samuel The other day, and I found that in the verse that God had sent a evil spirit of God upon Saul.

A coworker said it could’ve been the devil that he sent.

Why not, did God not appoint the lessor light to rule the night (the darkness)?

 

[MatthewG]

i dont believe that @face2face.

 

[MatthewG]

Why not, did God not appoint the lessor light to rule the night (the darkness)?

That did make sense, just sharing thank you also for your thoughts, Scott.

 

[Truther]

That's fine.
Seems like your RCC upbringing still has a grip on you.

The RCC has it's tentacles in most Christians.

 

[Truther]

Your focus is too small, missing the forest for the trees, even effectively denying that Jesus Christ the Savior of the world had anything to do with Abraham's salvation, giving Abraham all the credit for his own salvation and giving no credit to Jesus.

Do you not see the error in that?

Apparently not.

Where did you get that idea?

 

[Truther]

I've presented a rock-solid Biblical case for the Triune Godhead (Gen. 1:26, Matt. 28:19, John 15:26, 1 Cor. 12:4-6, 2 Cor. 13:14, 1 John 5:7, Eph. 4:6, Psalm 68:5, Mal. 2:10, Isa. 63:16, 2 Cor. 1:3-4, John 3:16, John 8:41, 1 Thess. 3:13, Isa. 7:14, Isa. 9:6, John 1:1, John 1:3, John 8:58, John 10:30, John 15:9, John 20:28, Acts 5:3-4, 2 Cor. 4:4, Phil. 2:6, Col. 2:9, 1 Tim. 3:16, Heb. 1:8, Tit. 2:13, John 14:16-18, Luke 12:10, 2 Cor. 3:17, 2 Cor. 13:5, John 14:23, Acts 5:3-4).

All YOU have responded with are your usual denials with ZERO evidence . . .

The word trinity is not in the Bible at all.

I can't imagine building a Godhead doctrine on that.

You can post a thousand verses, none explaining a trinity.

You need to poast extra Biblical commentary to explain trinity.

 

[Truther]

Sure has! Acts 2:38 is a principle, that is if anyone has to be saved he must be baptized in Jesus' name! Is this water baptism? Most certainly NOT!!! Here is the hint....

Ephesians 1:1-6 and Titus 3:5.

Ever hear of it? Lol

I urge you to go back to the drawing board and restudy your Bible!!!

To God Be The Glory

Acts 2:38 says this???...


38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ BY THE HOLY GHOST for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost

 

[St. SteVen]

New thread.

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[ScottA]

Where did you get that idea?

You may not have heard yourself, but I heard you when you declared Abraham had merely been saved by his own faith, while you never mentioned Jesus the Savior of the world. Which you did in response to my having said that all who are saved are "in Christ", both the living and the dead.

Would you like to restate your position on Abraham's salvation?

 

[JunChosen]

The word trinity is not in the Bible at all.

I can't imagine building a Godhead doctrine on that.

You can post a thousand verses, none explaining a trinity.

You need to poast extra Biblical commentary to explain trinity.

So are the words "Omniscient" and "Omnipresent" are not in Scripture, yet you cannot deny a serious Bible student that God is "Almighty" and "everywhere present"

Acts 2:38 says this???...


38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ BY THE HOLY GHOST for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost

You must read Acts 2:38 in light of Titus 3:5....

"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost".

To God Be The Glory

 

[Truther]

You may not have heard yourself, but I heard you when you declared Abraham had merely been saved by his own faith, while you never mentioned Jesus the Savior of the world. Which you did in response to my having said that all who are saved are "in Christ", both the living and the dead.

Would you like to restate your position on Abraham's salvation?

Abraham had faith in God, and it was counted to him as righteousness(Heb 11).

I don't know if he actually met Jesus though.

Maybe...

Jesus said, “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad".

Melchisedek???

 

[Truther]

1. You must read Acts 2:38 in light of Titus 3:5....

"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost".

To God Be The Glory

I did...

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


..trust me.

 

[Hobie]

I think all babies that die to to Heaven, although I don't know that I can back that belief with scripture.

Might be argued that it would be better for all people if they all died as babies so that they would all go to Heaven rather than growing into adulthood and risking being condemned to Hell?

That is a hard question as the scriptures do not go into that. But I think it falls under the sphere of Gods mercy and grace, and we shall see how He decides.

 

[ScottA]

Abraham had faith in God, and it was counted to him as righteousness(Heb 11).

I don't know if he actually met Jesus though.

Maybe...

Jesus said, “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad".

Melchisedek???

Okay.

Jesus' reference to Abraham having "rejoiced" (past tense) to see "My day" (then present tense, now past tense) was then confirmed by what Paul stated regarding the timing of the coming or return of Christ, saying, "But each one in his own order"-- meaning that while all in Christ see Him at his coming, unlike the unfolding of history and the lives and times of "each in his own order", the event of Christ's coming or return is stated by Christ as a one time event, which He called "My day" referring to that present time (now past).

Granted, the reality of the timeless and eternal things of God do not easily translate well into the terms that men who are accustom to all things existing on a timeline, are likely to understand--even when we know that God Himself does not exist in such a way, but "is the same yesterday, today, and forever", meaning always. But does that mean that we should view the things of God by the terms of men regardless rather than the terms of God? Certainly not, and this (God's terms) is the perspective by which I have been speaking.

The point is, all who come under the salvation of Jesus Christ, which is the only salvation made available to mankind from the beginning of the world unto the end...are begotten of God (born again of the spirit of God) by and "in" the "only begotten Son" Jesus Christ (as His body) in His day whether past, present, or future tense according to men. Scripture breaks all who are "in Christ" down into two groups, "the dead in Christ" meaning before the day of Christ and salvation had come, and "the living in Christ" meaning those born again of the spirit of God, after He has come.

This is what is meant by "worship in spirit and truth”; that is, by God's terms rather than those of men and of this world.