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7 Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes (nations) of the earth will mourn over Him [realizing their sin and guilt, and anticipating the coming wrath]. So it is to be. Amen.The only ones who would see it where those faithful. Unbelievers didnt see it… they had no faith.
Jesus never died spiritually Matthew. If he had there would be no salvation. Only sinners are born again of the spirit.You have a spiritual body you build up. Do spiritual bodies feel pain or do they experenice death? Jesus over came pyschal death, and he overcame spiritual death… i dont know how to answer your question.
Jesus never died spiritually Matthew. If he had there would be no salvation. Only sinners are born again of the spirit.
We look forward to our redemption of the body on the last day.
Rom 8
23 And not only this, but we too, who have the first fruits of the Spirit [a joyful indication of the blessings to come], even we groan inwardly, as we wait eagerly for [the sign of] our adoption as sons—the redemption and transformation of our body [at the resurrection]. 24 For in this hope we were saved [by faith]. But hope [the object of] which is seen is not hope. For who hopes for what he already sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait eagerly for it with patience and composure.
Jesus said he would raise us all on the last day. That implies most people died with the blessed hope of his coming to be raised in the future.Also do you believe those people where fooled by Jesus and his apostles, about his appearing?
Simple solution:I hate eschatology.
Why do you decide to mention? Do you a reason why you desired to throw this quoted passage out?Simple solution:
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
I guess all those people were lied to then about his appearing@ewq1938. I dont believe so.
The only ones who would see it where those faithful. Unbelievers didnt see it… they had no faith.
Thats common scripture quoteWrong. All will see it:
Rev_1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
This unscriptural secret coming you speak of matches the false teaching of Pre-trib where they also teach an unscriptural secret coming.
Cool.No one except Full Preterists claim the second coming has happened.
Thats common scripture quote
Doesnt make it true for today,
You do have believers waiting and watching, and you also have unbelievers who reported the surrounding times,
But only believers seen Jesus coming.
John says those times where going to happen shortly, not in 2023.
Did the apostles lie getting ready the church bride?
Whats the point in beliving the bible if they did?
I believe by faith that he came and got them.
So no i dont deny the scripture as you claim.