Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

[Ghada]

No because it is not biblical.

Repenting of sinning and believing on Jesus Christ to be born new and pure with God, with all things now being of God, is the Bible new birth of repented sons of God.

You not believing it doesn't make it not so.

For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid.

The repeated injunction not to sin found through the epistles tells us that

We should continue walking in Christ without sinning, even as born by Him.

As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:

the new Christians in the early church struggled with temptation and with sin.

No doubt. Even as today, they were probably hearing other gospels about Christians still being sinners for life.

John says many such ministers of sin were going out to corrupt the Christian hearers. This of course is all the apostles needed to write to the churches and spend so much time to rebuke them, and warn Christians against the death of sinning, that all the world is condemned by.

Even as on this site, I spend as much or more time rebuking Christian ministries of sin, as I do teaching the pure born ministry of Christ in the Bible.

Why does Paul tell us that there is a way of escapi g temptation?

Because we all are also tempted of the devil, even as Jesus was. And we are therefore exhorted not to fall by it, even as Jesus didn't.

There are myriads of teaching points made by Christian sinners with one single goal in mind: to justify themselves and other Christians as being born sons of God in the holy body of Christ, while also sinning with the devil.

 

[Ghada]

Why does he talk about his current problem of doing what he doesn't want to do?

Why do you believe he was? Because he certainly wasn't. It's impossible for the apostle to have been writing Romans 7 at a time of unfaithful double heartedness toward God.

For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Only holy men of God are fit for the Master's use to pen His pure, perfect, and holy words. God never uses unfaithful sinners to write His words to His own people.

We see therefore, if we believe all the words of the Bible as truth from God, that the writer of Romans 7, and any of Romans, and any words of the Bible for that matter, must have been pure hearted holy men faithful toward God at the time.

David certainly sinned against God, but was not currently in a state of sinning when writing Psalms 51.

It also shows that even if Paul ever did experience double mindedness at some time in His Christian life, then it certainly wasn't all his Christian life. Not at the time of penning any of God's epistles to His churches.

And so, while Romans 7 can't be a justification by God to sin against Him and His word, it also can't be used to teach a lifetime of unfaithful double hearted sinning unto death, as though Paul was.

Do Christians become double hearted in their faith. Sure, I've been there and done that. Do all Christians? That is something only God knows and judges.

Do some Christians know the wretchedness of it, as Romans 7 speaks? Sure. I was one in such wretched Christian sinner for a season. Which is why the last verse of Romans 7, also says we can be delivered from such doubleness of heart with God, and move on to the perfection of Romans 8:1. 2 Peter 1 confirms we can ensure we never fall to sinning, so that we surely can now walk only after the Spirit and no more after the flesh. So that in the perfecting of Romans 8, we can also no more be condemned by God for any works of the flesh, that are not being done.

Do some Christians live in the double mindedness of Romans 7 and not see it is wretched? Certainly. Some have indoctrinated themselves into believing it is inevitable and normal for life as a Christian sinner. I don't know how widespread that is in Christianity today, but it's certainly got a fervent following on this site.

Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

Unless they first cease to believe the lie that Paul was speaking of himself at the time of writing Romans, or any other of God's epistles, then they will never be able to repent from believing God is actually teaching such unfaithfulness to Him for life. In which case, there comfy cozy Christian sinning for life, will likely continue to the grave.

There is a sinning unto death: I do not say that ye shall pray for it.

If a Christian were indeed in a wretched state of double hearted sinning, as I once was, then I would certainly be glad to pray for him and help him out of it, even as I was. But if some unfaithful double minded Christian sinner insists on carrying his sinning to the grave? and worse yet, thinks himself justified in it by Romans 7? Hey, in my book, all such are on their own. Which includes God's Book, that tells me not to even waste time praying for them.

 

[Ghada]

Bible scholars are leaving Christianity in droves. Why?
Not because they don't understand the Bible, obviously. (they're Bible scholars)

- Do you have to be Christian to believe in God?
- Do you have to agree with the institutional church's positions to believe in God?

Previous topic on this subject.

Leaving Room for Faith - why we don't know EVERYTHING

At one time I was bothered by the fact that we don't really have ALL the answers. There was always a loose end somewhere. I chased the apologetics in every direction, but always came up short somewhere. And frankly, I don't remember the specifics, only the moment of my release from the tyranny...

www.christianityboard.com

I suppose there are many reasons why. But at the same time, who cares? I say good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

[gpresdo]

You just don't believe in the pure newborn conversion of the Bible.

Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. And all things are of God,

Your unbelief is not my problem.

For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.



Progressive Christian religion of unrepented sinners, working to sin less than before, is not the pure religion of Jesus Christ to be and remain unspotted from the world.

Self-formative religions of men to sin less, but never cease from sinning, are all finalized with the grave.

Waiting until after the grave to be purely newborn of God as Jesus, is one day to late. There is no repentance from sinning granted after the grave.

We repent of our sinning now, or never.

For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.



Not while sinning. There are indeed Christians sinning, just as Muslims and Jews and Buddhists, but pure born sons of God and saints in Christ Jesus are not now sinning today.

There are no sinners in Christ Jesus, in whom is no sinning. No matter what religion they hail from.

I so wish I could live to the standard of righteousness you preach. But, while better each day, I fear I still sin.
We are reminded of Paul's resolve;...that which i do i choose not....that which i choose i do not...
Further, God knew we would be short in our ability to achieve perfection the reason He gave us unlimited times for sin forgiveness.
Therefore, my resolve is to be better tomorrow than I was today.

 

[gpresdo]

No need for supportive scriptures?
Right. That works for those who wish to support their own biblical opinion
with no concern for what the rest of the Bible says. It's called "proof-texting".

Oh forgive.........you ask you got them;

Baptism is Required



Peter 3: 21.... whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...

John 3:5 .......Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Acts 2;38-....Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 22;16... And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.


Galations 3:26...... For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

KJV Marrk 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

KJV Matthew 3:14... But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15. Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now, for thus it becometh us to fulfil all rightesousness. Then He suffered Him.

KJV Matthew 28:19..... Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:.

Acts 10;47-48...
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 8:12-18: But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.

Acts 19:4 And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.”

John 3; 22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

Quote from Billy Graham that is note worthy;
....Also, to clarify I did not say remission of sin takes place at repentance. Scripture makes it clear that it occurs upon obedience to water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus. Each is a step of faith, along with receiving the Holy Ghost, in the process of one's spiritual rebirth

.."Paul explains the doctrinal significance of what occurs when one is baptized.His explanation is found in his letter to those who had already been obedient to the command.

Paul tells the Roman Christians what actually occurred when they were/are baptized; they were baptized into His death. Being buried with Jesus into His death resulted in their sin being destroyed.

Even though Paul explains this concept, the NEW AGE RELIGION TEACHING is......... that water baptism is nothing other than a mere public display.......... And that is so far removed from the truth.

Keep in mind that Satan knows if he can continue to perpetuate that lie ...... he can keep people from entering the kingdom of God. Thus He has proven scripture which says ...in the end times there will be ...great delusions.....they are here.

Conclusion....teaching that baptism is not necessary is violation of Rev. 22;19.... And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. (Also two other books of the Bible).




Is that enough...there is more?

 

[St. SteVen]

Oh forgive.........you ask you got them;

Thanks. That's quite a collection of quotes and scriptures.

QUESTION: Does this claim for the necessity of water baptism for salvation nullify deathbed conversions?

Alexander the Great baptized his entire army. Were they all saved?

Is not salvation by baptism a claim of salvation by our own works?
(rather than the finished work of the Atonement on our behalf) The ONLY work that really counts.

 

[Windmillcharge]

It's impossible for the apostle to have been writing Romans 7 at a time of unfaithful double heartedness toward God.

Why is it impossible?
Paul was a normal human being with all the faults weaknesses and strength we all have.
The passage reads as a current ongoing problem that Paul the human being had.
He wrote to encourage other people going through difficult ctemptations.

He was not same sort of super saint, immune to the troubles of life.

 

[gpresdo]

Thanks. That's quite a collection of quotes and scriptures.

QUESTION: Does this claim for the necessity of water baptism for salvation nullify deathbed conversions?

Alexander the Great baptized his entire army. Were they all saved?

Is not salvation by baptism a claim of salvation by our own works?
(rather than the finished work of the Atonement on our behalf) The ONLY work that really counts.

Baptism is required to qualify for repented status or to become born again.
How righteous life is after that is up to the person repenting.
I can't answer your questions...I think they are out of context.
Read scripture.

 

[gpresdo]

Thanks. That's quite a collection of quotes and scriptures.

QUESTION: Does this claim for the necessity of water baptism for salvation nullify deathbed conversions?

Alexander the Great baptized his entire army. Were they all saved?

Is not salvation by baptism a claim of salvation by our own works?
(rather than the finished work of the Atonement on our behalf) The ONLY work that really counts.

If baptism is a ......work...then so is repentance.
(neither are works).

 

[gpresdo]

Thanks. That's quite a collection of quotes and scriptures.

QUESTION: Does this claim for the necessity of water baptism for salvation nullify deathbed conversions?

Alexander the Great baptized his entire army. Were they all saved?

Is not salvation by baptism a claim of salvation by our own works?
(rather than the finished work of the Atonement on our behalf) The ONLY work that really counts.

...."collection"...yes God does it right. It is His word.
You sound surprised...haven't you read the Bible?

 

[St. SteVen]

Baptism is required to qualify for repented status or to become born again.
How righteous life is after that is up to the person repenting.
I can't answer your questions...I think they are out of context.
Read scripture.

What is your definition of repentance?
Repentance is not a result of baptism.
The only thing required after getting wet is to towel off. - LOL

 

[St. SteVen]

If baptism is a ......work...then so is repentance.
(neither are works).

Work isn't the problem.
The problem is claiming that any work of ours results in salvation.

 

[Ghada]

Where do you find Scriptural evidence for that?

And Jesus answering them said, Have ye not read so much as this:

The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

In him was life; and the life was the light of men. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the

You can claim to be made of the devil in the womb, with the devil in your flesh, and born a child of his all you want. It still doesn't justify you for sinning with him as father.

I can only find the opposite - Psalm 51:5 (WEB):

(5) Behold, I was born in iniquity. In sin my mother conceived me.​

Since we know Christ does not make anything sinful, whether babes in the womb nor flesh, grass, rocks, etc..

"Then Behold, I was born in a world of inequity. In a world of sinners my mother conceived me."

Proof that children are not now conceived in sin by an act of sin:

Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled.

A man know his wife in the marriage bed is not an act of sin, nor produces sin in the womb.

or as the GNB translates it:

(5) I have been evil from the day I was born; from the time I was conceived, I have been sinful.​

Corrupt translations for the sake of personal doctrine is garbage.

When liars believe their own lies...

God made mankind (Adam and Eve) perfect. Eve and Adam broke God's only commandment at that time and so God cursed the ground

True. Not any flesh on earth.

so Adam and Eve started to physically decay and eventually died.

Christ makes all flesh and grass naturally mortal. No sin in that. Nor righteousness for that matter. Just flesh and grass.

All mankind since have inherited Adam's sinful decaying nature,

All men have death of sinning passed upon them, by sinning like Adam.

so we are all born increasingly imperfect and with a sinful nature,

Theological devolution rather than human evolution. Both are wrong.

and we all die.

We all have died by sinning. Unlike you, we are not all dead by sinning.

Your ministry of sin is rejected by me. Go tell it to other unrepented sinners such as yourself, to see if they'll swallow the same excuses for it.

and barred mankind from the Tree of Life,

True, the spirit of Christ was separated from them, as with all that sin. It's the only reason death passes upon the soul, that Christ still creates in His image today.

In His image maketh Him man and woman. Nowhere in the Bible does it say Christ ceased creating man, and creating Him in His own image. The devil is not a creator nor maker of anything but a lie, such as the lie of Christ creating and making man today in the devil's image.

Children are still the Lord's inheritance, not the devil's.

That is why Jesus was born of a virgin -

It was only for a sign. His body was made by the Spirit out of the same seed and flesh as David, Abraham, and Adam.

He had the same natural blood in His flesh as all men.

And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth,.

Saying Jesus Christ did not come in the same one flesh and one blood of all men, then He is not come in the flesh of a man, but is come in the strange flesh of an angel or spirit.

First you make Christ a maker of sinners and flesh of sin, and now you make Him not come in the flesh and blood of man.

God caused Mary to be pregnant so that Jesus' human body did not inherit the sinful nature from Adam.

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Jesus was the only human ever to be born pure and without a sinful nature.

Now you even deny your own silly doctrine, and say Adam was made a sinner, and not in the image of God.

I reject your sin-making christ and your ministry of sin from cradle to grave.

But nobody can keep the Law - that's why we need a saviour!

Nobody can without the Lawmaker, that's why He become the Saviour.

Jesus Christ does not come to destroy His own law, but to destroy the devil's works against His law.

By idolizing Jesus' life while declaring it impossible to walk as He, you only make an idol of Him.

That is not what I believe.

It's what you teach. You teach being born a sinner from the womb. You teach being a sinner unto the grave. You teach is not possible to not sin in between. You teach that sin is in your very flesh and blood, so as to lay the blame on your body made by Christ.


You just don't want to believe what you teach, when told plainly without all the speechifying around it.

You're calling Paul's teachings pathetic?!

So, you don't believe in blaming the body for sinning, but only say Paul teaches it.

You contradict your own doctrine and now yourself.

 

[keithr]

And Jesus answering them said, Have ye not read so much as this:

The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

In him was life; and the life was the light of men. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the

You have not said where in the Bible you find evidence, you're just typing words - you should give Bible references and say which translation you're quoting from. Assuming you're quoting from the KJV then the only match for your first line is Luke 6:3 :

(3) And Jesus answering them said, Have ye not read so much as this, what David did, when himself was an hungred, and they which were with him;​

which has nothing to do with whether or not people are born perfect or with a sinful nature. The other verses seem to be John 1:2-4,9 which also don't comment on whether people are born with a sinful or sinless nature.

You can claim to be made of the devil in the womb, with the devil in your flesh, and born a child of his all you want.

I never claimed that anyone has ever been made by the devil. Please stop falsely accusing me of writing things that I did not write. Satan accuses us before God day and night; who's side are you on?! Revelation 12:10 (WEB):

(10) I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation, the power, and the Kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ has come; for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them before our God day and night.​

Since we know Christ does not make anything sinful, whether babes in the womb nor flesh, grass, rocks, etc..

"Then Behold, I was born in a world of inequity. In a world of sinners my mother conceived me."

I can find no translation which translates Psalm 51:5 like that. All translations seem to agree that it should be something like the following:

NIV:

Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.​

Amplified Bible:

I was brought forth in [a state of] wickedness; In sin my mother conceived me [and from my beginning I, too, was sinful].​

Proof that children are not now conceived in sin by an act of sin:

Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled.

Is that a quote from th Bible? Hebrews 13:4 perhaps?

A man know his wife in the marriage bed is not an act of sin, nor produces sin in the womb.

Of course conception of children is not sinful - it is obeying God's commandment! Genesis 1:28 (WEB):

(28) God blessed them. God said to them, “Be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth, and subdue it. ..."​

Sexual intercourse between a man and his wife is not sinful. But when both parents have a corrupt sinful nature, then the child will inherit that same corrupt sinful nature. That is why Jesus, as a single man, could redeem all mankind, because he sacrificed his perfect life (he did not have a human father, so he didn't inherit a sinful nature) to pay the price of Adam's sin, therefore redeeming Adam's perfect life (Adam was created perfect and sinless, but after sinning he became imperfect and started dying - the punishment from God for sin). Everyone else is decended from Adam and Eve after they had become corrupted, and so all their descendants inherit that corrupt and sinful nature. If Adam and Eve had not sinned then all their decendants would have been born perfect and with a sinless nature. Therefore by redeeming Adam, all Adam's sins and all the sins of all his descendants can be justly forgiven. If everyone is born perfect and sinless, but then sinned, then Jesus would have to sacrifice his life over and over, billions of times, sacrificing his life for one person at a time. Hebrews 10:10 (WEB):

(10) ... we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.​

Corrupt translations for the sake of personal doctrine is garbage.

So your typing above of "Then Behold, I was born in a world of inequity. In a world of sinners my mother conceived me" is garbage too!

 

[keithr]

Your ministry of sin is rejected by me. Go tell it to other unrepented sinners such as yourself, to see if they'll swallow the same excuses for it.

Insulting me by calling me an unrepentant sinner is not demonstrating the spirit of Christ, the spirit of love. 1 John 3:14 (WEB):

(14) We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.​

In His image maketh Him man and woman. Nowhere in the Bible does it say Christ ceased creating man, and creating Him in His own image. The devil is not a creator nor maker of anything but a lie, such as the lie of Christ creating and making man today in the devil's image.

Nobody in this thread has claimed that Jesus (or God) makes people in the devil's image. Jesus accused the Pharisees of having the devil as their father, because the devil is the father of lies:

John 8:43-47 (WEB):

(43) Why don’t you understand my speech? Because you can’t hear my word.​

(44) You are of your father, the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and doesn’t stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks on his own; for he is a liar, and the father of lies.​

(45) But because I tell the truth, you don’t believe me.​

(46) Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me?​

(47) He who is of God hears the words of God. For this cause you don’t hear, because you are not of God.”​

Saying Jesus Christ did not come in the same one flesh and one blood of all men, then He is not come in the flesh of a man, but is come in the strange flesh of an angel or spirit.

Again, you're accusing me of writing something that I did not. The Sciptures are clear - Jesus did not have a human father - Luke 1:31,34-35 (WEB):

(31) Behold, you will conceive in your womb, and give birth to a son, and will call his name ‘Jesus.’​

(34) Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, seeing I am a virgin?”​

(35) The angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore also the holy one who is born from you will be called the Son of God.​

Joseph was not the father of Jesus, God was. God prepared a human body for Jesus that was sinless in nature. The virgin birth was not just a sign, it had a purpose and reason.

First you make Christ a maker of sinners and flesh of sin, and now you make Him not come in the flesh and blood of man.

I did not claim any of those things! Philippians 2:7-8 (WEB):

(7) but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men.​

(8) And being found in human form, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to the point of death, yes, the death of the cross.​

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

The Bible says that Jesus was born of a virgin, with God causing the conception, not a man. That does not mean that Jesus did not come in the flesh. You're jumping to the wrong conclusions again and once again accusing me saying something that I did not.

Now you even deny your own silly doctrine, and say Adam was made a sinner, and not in the image of God.

I said, "Jesus was the only human ever to be born pure and without a sinful nature". I did not say Adam was born a sinner - Adam was created, not born. I said Adam was created perfect and that he later sinned. You seem to have difficulty understanding the simple plain words that I wrote.

By idolizing Jesus' life while declaring it impossible to walk as He, you only make an idol of Him.

Yet more lying accusations! Whay are you such a nasty person?

It's what you teach. You teach being born a sinner from the womb.

I wrote that I did not believe that God made us sinners, but that we inherited a sinful nature from Adam.

You teach being a sinner unto the grave. You teach is not possible to not sin in between. You teach that sin is in your very flesh and blood, so as to lay the blame on your body made by Christ.

Jesus taught us to pray, Matthew 6:12 (ISV):

(12) and forgive us our sins, as we have forgiven those who have sinned against us.​

​

Romans 3:10 (WEB):

(10) As it is written, “There is no one righteous; no, not one.​

So, you don't believe in blaming the body for sinning, but only say Paul teaches it.

You wrote that you "find the Christian sinner's doctrine of blaming the body on sinning, as most pathetic". I pointed out that it was Paul that taught that, so that you were claiming that Paul's teaching was pathetic. Paul wrote, Romans 7:22-25 (WEB):

(22) For I delight in God’s law after the inward man,​

(23) but I see a different law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity under the law of sin which is in my members.​

(24) What a wretched man I am! Who will deliver me out of the body of this death?​

(25) I thank God through Jesus Christ, our Lord! So then with the mind, I myself serve God’s law, but with the flesh, the sin’s law.​

Having been begotten again by God, the new man/creature in him delight's in God's law, and he desires to obey that law, but the flesh body that he lives in, which has a sinful nature, keeps causing him to sin. The same applies to all Christians.

 

[gpresdo]

What is your definition of repentance?
Repentance is not a result of baptism.
The only thing required after getting wet is to towel off. - LOL

The Bible defines repentance ...not me.
If you don't know what that is..... study scriptures. If you need help know.

Baptism is required for sin forgiveness.

Read the Bible scriptures pertaining to baptism...already posted. Maybe u did not see them.

 

[gpresdo]

Work isn't the problem.
The problem is claiming that any work of ours results in salvation.

Faith without works is dead...per scripture.
Maybe you have a different bible.

 

[St. SteVen]

Faith without works is dead...per scripture.
Maybe you have a different bible.

Cause and effect.
Good works are the result of a renewed relationship with God, not the cause.
We can pile up all the wood, hay, and stubble (fleshly works) we like, but it won't save us.

 

[Windmillcharge]

It's impossible for the apostle to have been writing Romans 7 at a time of unfaithful double heartedness toward God.

Why is it impossible? Paul was a normal human being, not some sort of suppersaint who never sinned.
He wrote in the present tense, meaning that his current experience was that sometimes he sinned even though he didn't want to.

We all sin even you. You have accused Christians of living, of not believing the Bible.
Those accusations are false or to put it another way, " sinful. "

 

[keithr]

You have accused Christians of living, of not believing the Bible.

Is that a typing error? Did you mean 'lying' rather than 'living'?