Halloween is a satanic festival

[TLHKAJ]

This is strange thing. (not you, me) - LOL
I just realized that I refused to open the attachments provided as evidence
in the first two posts out of fear, I suppose. Or that I thought it was wrong for
me to know abo

Ask the Lord about it. There has to be a "why."

 

[amigo de christo]

Ask the Lord about it. There has to be a "why."

Let the LORD be praised . the lambs shall honor HIM and not evil . Let all who name the name of Christ Jesus
have no part in wickedness .

 

[MatthewG]

This is actually off-topic.

Oh.

 

[St. SteVen]

Ask the Lord about it. There has to be a "why."

Fear based on a false biblical justification. Like Jesus' temptation in the wilderness.

Okay, I viewed the calendar. I was amazed at how full it is.
Something every week, it appears. And many strange things they observe.
Columbus Day? Hitler's half birthday? Christmas? And TODAY is a big deal.
(as you mentioned earlier)

So, do they have weekly get-togethers? Or are some of these personal observances?
How do these people maintain any kind of life outside all this? Such a treadmill they are on.
Is it willingly, or are they held against their will? I know some have escaped.
So, that infers that they were captives. Seems to have been your situation.

Sorry for the flood of questions.

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[TLHKAJ]

So, do they have weekly get-togethers? Or are some of these personal observances?
How do these people maintain any kind of life outside all this? Such a treadmill they are on.
Is it willingly, or are they held against their will? I know some have escaped.
So, that infers that they were captives. Seems to have been your situation.

The list is pretty exhaustive, and yet any one local group does not honor every ritual date on the calendar. There will be several per month, but not every date mentioned.

Meetings take place at night while the person (front alter/s) have gone to sleep. A cult-loyal alter switches out and they go to the meetings, or rituals, getting back home to their bed before about 4 or 5 am. The front alter wakes up, often still tired, maybe with a bit of a headache ...thinking they slept all night, but have no idea why they're feeling so tired.

For some (or many), there are family members in the house, or a spouse, who cues out those alters at night, and then they are taken to meetings or rituals. Meetings are very often on a military base or some other government facility, even underground. Many of my earliest memories (from ages 2 and 3) are of military bases and underground bases. They are massive, like a whole city underground.

Cult-loyal alters are conditioned from the time the person is very young to believe they are "special" and "chosen" ....and that what they are doing has great importance. But when they begin to realize they've been lied to, and often they will begin reaching out to God ...and the programming begins to lose hold ever so little. That's when the front alter/s usually begin to get memories, and become consciously aware of some things ....like odd phone calls, or threatening messages, or (like you mentioned) being in a public place and a stranger calls them by another name, etc. Or, they'll begin having "dreams" that tie into their day time experiences. (The "dreams" are things that cult alters did during the night that ....if ever remembered, the person is conditioned to repeat, "it's only just a dream" or some similar phrase to cover and redissociate those memory-dreams.) That is something that happened to me all my life. Maybe this is something I should post in my other thread to keep this one more on topic.

It is all against the will of the person, as they were an infant when trauma began, often in the womb. So they are broken and shattered before they are given a chance to develop their sense of self (as a whole). They are placed into impossible situations and forced to choose (the lesser evil). That's why I so hate the mantra people use about voting for "the lesser evil." That is so totally a cult tactic .... it's unreal. (Votes don't count anyway. Our leaders are chosen by the committee of 300 that sits under the council of 13.)

Sigh .....this is a lot, and not a complete answer.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Will you stop doing anything because of this?

Just because I take part in trick-or-treating and putting up decorations doesn't mean that I am celebrating with Satanists. I don't even know any Satanists.

You speak the truth... however, you are an adult and while you may not be a Satanist or know any you are indirectly influencing all children who see your display.

Whether they would or could comprehend anything Satanic is in question but the yearly onslaught of displays around this country is a form of brainwashing into pagan holiday enjoyment even if Satan is left out of it.

Yes, you are correct that "Pretty much every day of the week is some sort of celebration that isn't Christian."

But other celebrations do not center around Satan and this one does....

It even teaches the beginnings of what most would call mischief to the young when they go out and celebrate "Devil's Night" and then go around collecting their candies on Halloween and state "Trick or Treat when you answer the door.

Innocent fun you say?

Not so much when it gets stemmed from the father of lies.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

I found Dec 25th listed as a holiday on the satanic calendar from the Satanic temple, called Sol Invictus:

From this website Holidays

View attachment 36953

Question.

If one celebrates what we call Christmas in observation of the unknown date of our saviors birth, would that not actually be an affront to things such as Sol Invictus and Satanic things?

Why should we not insert our beliefs into the middle of a date they celebrate.... ?

And I am not talking about the St. Nicolas portion that they stem into children... that erroneously has most Jewish parents, especially the mothers, keepings their kids from for somehow they have gotten the idea that Santa Claus is what Christianity is about..........

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Many p

Many pagan festivals were picked up and "christianized" including Easter and Christmas..

Hi Hobie,

You are correct. But why?

Did this stem back to Rome and the RCC?

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

@teamventure @amigo de christo
@St. SteVen
Tomorrow is Friday the 13th, and on top of that ....it is backwards .....helloween. That makes it of double importance for satanists. Child abductions happen on this date, which are held and prepared for sacrifice on "helloween" and the days around it. Those children will suffer tortures of every sort leading up to their violent deaths.

Side bar: OT I know.

They said today Fri 13th to be on the lookout in the US because some Hamas and Hamas sympathizers are wanting to do something in the US.

I suppose for those demons it would be a chosen day for such, if it happens.

Now Back on topic

 

[Cassandra]

Question.

If one celebrates what we call Christmas in observation of the unknown date of our saviors birth, would that not actually be an affront to things such as Sol Invictus and Satanic things?

Why should we not insert our beliefs into the middle of a date they celebrate.... ?

And I am not talking about the St. Nicolas portion that they stem into children... that erroneously has most Jewish parents, especially the mothers, keepings their kids from for somehow they have gotten the idea that Santa Claus is what Christianity is about..........

Why pick that day? It is because alot of paganism entered the church. We dont know when Jesus birthday is. He never told us to celebrate it--only His death through Communion are we told to keep.
When the church was christianizing, there were pagan feast days and folk still wanted to celebrate them, so they were masked. 12-25 is one of them. weeping for Tammuz 40 days is another one one of them later covered by Lent(Jesus never told us to have Lent.)
Since the day was reckoned evening to morning, the day part after the (Hallowe'en ) is All Saints Day in the Catholic church. What's up with that? Why are we celebrating anyone who has attained heaven? "All Saints and All Souls comprise the two-day celebration of the Communion of Saints – those who are with God in heaven and those who are on their way to heaven. On the Solemnity of All Saints, November 1, the Church celebrates those Christians who achieved spiritual maturity. It is a day to venerate all the holy men and women who have been canonized by the Church." What is the significance of All Saints Day? - National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception After that is All Souls Day or dia de Los Muertos.--
To me, Having fall festival at church so kids dont go trick or treating (Church oween) is the same as Halloween--candy, same day trick or treat, --same song same verse, a little bit louder and a little bit worse.

 

[lforrest]

If you are looking to not alienate kids there is the generic "harvest" festival. Decoration is fall themed. No need for evil to be represented. Distribute candy.

Kids may miss dressing up in costumes to trick or treat. But they can do that elsewhere.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Why pick that day? It is because alot of paganism entered the church. We dont know when Jesus birthday is. He never told us to celebrate it--only His death through Communion are we told to keep.
When the church was christianizing, there were pagan feast days and folk still wanted to celebrate them, so they were masked. 12-25 is one of them. weeping for Tammuz 40 days is another one one of them later covered by Lent(Jesus never told us to have Lent.)
Since the day was reckoned evening to morning, the day part after the (Hallowe'en ) is All Saints Day in the Catholic church. What's up with that? Why are we celebrating anyone who has attained heaven? "All Saints and All Souls comprise the two-day celebration of the Communion of Saints – those who are with God in heaven and those who are on their way to heaven. On the Solemnity of All Saints, November 1, the Church celebrates those Christians who achieved spiritual maturity. It is a day to venerate all the holy men and women who have been canonized by the Church." What is the significance of All Saints Day? - National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception After that is All Souls Day or dia de Los Muertos.--
To me, Having fall festival at church so kids dont go trick or treating (Church oween) is the same as Halloween--candy, same day trick or treat, --same song same verse, a little bit louder and a little bit worse.

I tend to agree with you.....

But there seems to be something in celebrating something that is ingrained in man.

Perhaps it stems back to what God told our Jewish forefathers.


I was just reading

On The Eighth Day Shall Be An Holy Convocation Unto You;

Sunday 10-8-23 1st. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Tishri 22 5784, 16th. Fall Day 8th. Day/Shemini Atzeret 2023 Leviticus 23:36-39, John 8:1-11 36 Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering...

www.christianityboard.com

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On The Eighth Day Shall Be An Holy Convocation Unto You;​

Too long to copy here so I encourage you all to go read it.

It certainly seems from this and all else we know of Jewish holidays that God kept man busy not only working and worshipping but ... if I can use the phrase..."making merry" all the celebrations through out the year.

So when and why did that change for us.

Was it the first church of the New Testament who stopped them from the Jewish celebrations and then
to avoid the Pagan ones adopted some of those days for what we call Christian celebrations? Christmas and Easter?

 

[St. SteVen]

Why should we not insert our beliefs into the middle of a date they celebrate.... ?

That's a great question.
These holidays are not going away any time soon.
We need to live in this neighborhood, so to speak.

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[St. SteVen]

Was it the first church of the New Testament who stopped them from the Jewish celebrations and then
to avoid the Pagan ones adopted some of those days for what we call Christian celebrations? Christmas and Easter?

You can't be serious, can you?
Christmas and Easter, "to avoid the Pagan" celebrations?
How does that work?
"Hmm... it's a pagan holiday, let's just call it something else and declare it as our own."
"But you are still calling them Christmas and Easter. How is that calling them something else?"

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[Cassandra]

Was it the first church of the New Testament who stopped them from the Jewish celebrations and then
to avoid the Pagan ones adopted some of those days for what we call Christian celebrations? Christmas and Easter?

Sounds like a new thread to me, if you are so inclined.
of course the feasts were types. I agree with what you wrote here though.
If you have time (I couldn't figure out the May 1 Labor Day--it is international Labour day) Had to look it up.

7 Pagan Festivals We Still Celebrate Today - Through Eternity Tours

This article explains the origins of a lot of modern festivals. Learn more with Through Eternity Team!

www.througheternity.com

 

[Naomanos]

You speak the truth... however, you are an adult and while you may not be a Satanist or know any you are indirectly influencing all children who see your display.

Whether they would or could comprehend anything Satanic is in question but the yearly onslaught of displays around this country is a form of brainwashing into pagan holiday enjoyment even if Satan is left out of it.

Yes, you are correct that "Pretty much every day of the week is some sort of celebration that isn't Christian."

But other celebrations do not center around Satan and this one does....

It even teaches the beginnings of what most would call mischief to the young when they go out and celebrate "Devil's Night" and then go around collecting their candies on Halloween and state "Trick or Treat when you answer the door.

Innocent fun you say?

Not so much when it gets stemmed from the father of lies.

I will agree to disagree.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Sounds like a new thread to me, if you are so inclined.
of course the feasts were types. I agree with what you wrote here though.
If you have time (I couldn't figure out the May 1 Labor Day--it is international Labour day) Had to look it up.

7 Pagan Festivals We Still Celebrate Today - Through Eternity Tours

This article explains the origins of a lot of modern festivals. Learn more with Through Eternity Team!

www.througheternity.com

This is a great link, well explained.

I agree it deserves a thread of its own.

I am thinking to post your link, as you have it here and then perhaps we could have a discussion on each one
as to the whys and wherefores of why we celebrate when we do and why we call them a specific name.

I have had a bone to pick with Easter being called Easter for several decades now..... Ill get into that in the new thread.

 

[teamventure]

Actually it was a harvest celebration.

It was pagan and evil all about dressing up as evil spirits and leaving treats for them. And the druids were even worse making sacrifices to samhain. But ya, why don't you just omit those facts and call it just a harvest party. That's dishonest.

 

[teamventure]

What do Satanists do to celebrate Halloween?
I would guess that regular folks aren't participating in anything of the sort.
Therefore "partaking" seems a bit heavy-handed.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

To be clear, I don't observe the holiday. But I did when my children were old enough to Trick-or-Treat.
(dress in costume and go door to door collecting candy)

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Trick or treating and dressing up are copies of some of the rituals. That's why it opens the door to satan.
Satanists believe by dressing up you mark your children as belonging to satan.

 

[teamventure]

If a secular group had meetings on Sunday mornings would that make them Christians?
Would the secular group be "celebrating with them"? Same day, right?

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That would not be the same as particpating in the same celebration that has the same name not just the same date. You are being intellectually dishonest.