BarneyFife
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Differences, but not essentials, and the closer we get to Jesus, the more superfluity we naturally offload.
Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of doctrinal unity?
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The biggest roadblock to Christian doctrinal unity is Christians teaching things other than the Bible, especially changing the Bible to teach their own things.
This statement shows an ignorance of what Bible unity in the faith is.
In the first place, our liberty is not to determine our 'own beliefs', but the liberty to determine for ourselves what the Bible says is true of God.
Our determination is to know the truth of God and the faith of Jesus only.
We don't sacrifice Bible faith and truth for doctrinal unity of Christian religion. The knowledge of the truth of God's word is not by 'consensus' of men.
Of course not. I say let the blind follow the blind into the ditch. And that is what most do.
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Conformity to opinions of men is not conformity to the word and image of Christ in the Bible.
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This is not the topic you open with. Unity of doctrine is not the same as unity of the brotherhood.
Differences in doctrinal and prophetic minutiae is no reason to withhold Christian fellowship. The open confession of faith in Jesus alone should suffice for fellowship in Christ.
However, we are all clearly warned against gross error in the doctrine of Christ, which leads to more ungodly sinning, and never to sinning not.
Also, we are commanded not to keep company with those whose sinning becomes obvious and publicly known.
And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
In fact, if I met some of the teachers of gross doctrine personally, and did not know who they were, so long as they didn't try preaching it to me in person, nor were living it in my face, then we could have fellowship in Christ as much as with any saint.
Nonsense.
That assumes that there is only one way to interpret the Bible. Not true.
There is no consensus. Who's interpretation will you surrender to in the cause of doctrinal unity?
Would you surrender your own beliefs?
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did i just kill a post? i got ignored in another forum for asking prof Mary the mother of Jesus did a miracle in 1917 even though she is dead
No. Because love is what brings unity. While one can very much share their direct beliefs, from scripture quoted passages, it's only by agape of love by the Spirit of God, and the Spirit of Christ within you as a believer, that truly matters at the end of life. Though, learning and growing of what is known in the bible can help with hope, and also help you decide what you are going to believe concerning it. The important thing to remember because of that is the Bible was never written "to" us, however it was written "for" us in order to understand the history of how God created humankind, how humankind fell, and how God reconciled humankind back to himself, by and through his own Word.
amigo de christo
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LOVE FOR CHRIST FOR GOD above all is what true lambs UNIFY UNDER . .
Too many folks just hug and try n get along and love rather the things of the world . THAT LOVE
aint coming from GOD at all . NOPE . no sir .
THOSE WHOSE LOVE IS FROM GOD WILL PUT HIM , <HIS CHRIST first above all , they have unity with others who do the same .
THAT SIMPLE . which reminds me , have i made mention of the dire need for folks to get back in them bibles .
LET us do just that . GET in that bible and let us learn well .
Having different interpretations where the Bible allows no definitie answer to, is fine. Teaching something else that the Bible definitely opposes, is not fine.
Most teachings opposing the Bible of course have to do with justifying how we live in the name of Christ.
No one's. We don't surrender obvious truth of the Bible just to please the false teachers.
There are plenty of areas for private interpretation of doctrine and prophecy, without needing to forsake the truth.
Ex: I would not expect any believer in a created christ to believe Jesus is both Lord and God, just to get alone with me, who does believe and know Jesus is Lord and God. I think they maybe expect us believers in the Word was God to change our minds, but of course that's not going to happen at least with me.
Mariology. A created christ. Sabbath commandments. Personal holiness rules. Saved by faith alone, etc...
This tells me that you agree with the OP. (opening post)
You would not surrender your personal beliefs in the interest of doctrinal unity.
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Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of doctrinal unity?
I think I could say yes to this with 2 requirements being done at every church service.
At the beginning of every church service first thing done is binding of satan and loosing ministering spirits... casting out devils mentioned 22 times in gospels the full congregation saying. At the end of every service the blessing pronounced over them Nu 6:24-26 Then I would lay it on the Lord to clean up the church haha Oh and give them the definition Hebrew meaning of the word peace and make sure they know that the Lord wanted the blessing pronounced over them, it might wow them as it did me haha all the word covers.
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It would be a good survey question but I don't know how to do those... my opinion is just my own... So for me it is yes heck if all the denominations did this, if any did... they don't do it, it has never been done. I would visit the churches that do this.. but then as I said for me I would then doing this go back to the Lord for him to clean up the churches. I would have more scripture out of His mouth I would present him over it... I call that going to court with the Lord taking his words to him. In other words for me if the church made known this was done every service, I would go to that church no matter what denomination it was. You don't have it done.
Yes, we can imagine that the response would NOT be unanimously in favor of this proposal.
I'll instruct you on how to do a Forum Poll if you want to try it.
Since it is your proposal, obviously you would be fine with it, But as you pointed out "it has never been done" (to your knowledge)
And so I suppose that would be the response.
Can you see now the impossibility of doctrinal unity? Even though many Christians claim it needs to happen.
With that in mind, what should we conclude about the matter? How important is doctrinal unity if it is a virtual impossibility?
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Lambano
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