Zao is life
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I'm new here and all, yet some of you already know me from other boards since I recognize some of you from these same boards.
1 Corinthians 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
I would think, if nothing else, pretty much everyone is in agreement that verse 24 is meaning after the great white throne judgment.
So let's assume a hypothetical scenario here. When Christ intially returns it is 12 PM central time on a Monday of a particular month and a particular year. Obviously, for example, 24 hours later it is another day, thus no longer this same day He initially returned. Unless the end meant in verse 24 above occurs within 24 hours or less of Him having returned, it is ludicrous to insist there are no more days remaining once He has returned.
The point being, no way could the great white throne judgment be involving just 24 hours or less. Therefore, once He returns there has to be more days remaining in order to allow for the great white throne judgment eventually. Which means it is not preposterous that some of these days can be involving the millennium and satan's little season after He has initially returned since it is already impossible that verse 24 above can be meaning within 24 hours or less of Him having returned based on the amount of time the great white throne judgment alone will be involving.
For some reason Amils just can't seem to grasp how utterly ludicrous it is that verse 24 above is meaning 24 hours or less of Him having returned. As if it makes sense that in this same 24 hour window of time the great white throne judgment begins and is finished entirely.
I take 1 Cor.15:24 the same as you, but from a completely different angle:-
"And He said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground; and should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knows not how. For the earth brings out fruit of itself, first the blade, then [eîta] the ear, then [eîta] the full grain in the ear. But when the fruit has been brought out, immediately he puts in the sickle, because the harvest has come."-- Mark 4:26-29
"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first-fruits; afterward [épeita] they that are Christ's at his coming. Then [eîta] comes the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he has put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death." -- 1 Cor.15:22-26.
"You have subjected all things under his feet." For in order that He put all things under him, He did not leave anything not subjected. But now [nŷn] we do not see all things having been put under him." -- Hebrews 2:8
How can all enemies already be under His feet now, if He must reign UNTIL He has put all enemies under His feet, and the last enemy to be defeated is death (to be cast in the lake of fire with hades, after Satan has been cast into it, where the beast and false prophet are), and it is written that this will occur at the time of the GWT?
Does "all things being put under His feet" not include death being put under His feet? Why does Hebrews 2:8 say that now [nŷn] we do not see all things having been put under him?
Note how that same word [nŷn] is used when Jesus said the following:
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this the world [o kósmos]. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would fight so that I might not be delivered to the Jews.
But now [nŷn] My kingdom is not from here." -- John 18:36
"And the seventh angel sounded. And there were great voices in Heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this the world [o kósmos] have become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ. And He will reign forever and ever." -- Rev.11:15.
"You have subjected all things under his feet." For in order that He put all things under him, He did not leave anything not subjected. But now [nŷn] we do not see all things having been put under him." -- Hebrews 2:8
"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first-fruits; afterward [épeita] they that are Christ's at his coming. Then [eîta] comes the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he has put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death." -- 1 Cor.15:22-26.
[Strongs Greek] 03568
νῦν nŷn, noon
a primary particle of present time;
"now" (as adverb of date, a transition or emphasis); also as noun or adjective present or immediate:--henceforth, + hereafter, of late, soon, present, this (time).
"And He said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground; and should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knows not how. For the earth brings out fruit of itself, first the blade, then [eîta] the ear, then [eîta] the full grain in the ear. But when the fruit has been brought out, immediately he puts in the sickle, because the harvest has come."-- Mark 4:26-29
"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first-fruits; afterward [épeita] they that are Christ's at his coming. Then [eîta] comes the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he has put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death." -- 1 Cor.15:22-26.
"You have subjected all things under his feet." For in order that He put all things under him, He did not leave anything not subjected. But now [nŷn] we do not see all things having been put under him." -- Hebrews 2:8
How can all enemies already be under His feet now, if He must reign UNTIL He has put all enemies under His feet, and the last enemy to be defeated is death (to be cast in the lake of fire with hades, after Satan has been cast into it, where the beast and false prophet are), and it is written that this will occur at the time of the GWT?
Does "all things being put under His feet" not include death being put under His feet? Why does Hebrews 2:8 say that now [nŷn] we do not see all things having been put under him?
Note how that same word [nŷn] is used when Jesus said the following:
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this the world [o kósmos]. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would fight so that I might not be delivered to the Jews.
But now [nŷn] My kingdom is not from here." -- John 18:36
"And the seventh angel sounded. And there were great voices in Heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this the world [o kósmos] have become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ. And He will reign forever and ever." -- Rev.11:15.
"You have subjected all things under his feet." For in order that He put all things under him, He did not leave anything not subjected. But now [nŷn] we do not see all things having been put under him." -- Hebrews 2:8
"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first-fruits; afterward [épeita] they that are Christ's at his coming. Then [eîta] comes the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he has put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death." -- 1 Cor.15:22-26.
[Strongs Greek] 03568
νῦν nŷn, noon
a primary particle of present time;
"now" (as adverb of date, a transition or emphasis); also as noun or adjective present or immediate:--henceforth, + hereafter, of late, soon, present, this (time).