Romans 11 and the real Replacement Theology

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What the Catholic Church defines as dogmas, and what the lexicon defines as dogmas, are two different dogmas.

One lexical definition: "A point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds"

Until one of your popes publicly renounces the three declarations that I cited, they're your dogmas.
 
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What the Catholic Church defines as dogmas, and what the lexicon defines as dogmas, are two different dogmas.

One lexical definition: "A point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds"

Until one of your popes publicly renounces the three declarations that I cited, they're your dogmas.

and now you want to play with words?

A dogma of the Catholic Church is defined as "a truth revealed by God, which the magisterium of the Church declared as binding".[1]

Dogma in the Catholic Church - Wikipedia


Lay it down brother.. we are not called to be one anothers accusors...
 

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clearly not:

Then he took a cup, gave thanks, 16 and gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you,

for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins.
You must be Catholic. Christianity did not start until Acts chapter 2.
 

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you clearly have no idea what youre talking about or what Grace we receive in acknowledging our failings..

For I know my offense; my sin is always before me.

Against you alone have I sinned; I have done such evil in your sight That you are just in your sentence, blameless when you condemn.

2 True, I was born guilty, a sinner, even as my mother conceived me.

Still, you insist on sincerity of heart; in my inmost being teach me wisdom.

3 Cleanse me with hyssop, that I may be pure; wash me, make me whiter than snow.

Let me hear sounds of joy and gladness; let the bones you have crushed rejoice.

Turn away your face from my sins; blot out all my guilt.

A clean heart create for me, God; renew in me a steadfast spirit.

Do not drive me from your presence, nor take from me your holy spirit.


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You pharisee, rightly did ou Lord, condemn such self important and assured vipers as you...

Time to get on your belly and beg His forgiveness for your hubris,,,
What a bunch of nonsense. I don't know about you, but I'm made the righteousness of God in him. 2 Corinthians 5:21
 

Peterlag

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Sure,

The Catholics have kept the Feast, which is not only the sign, but the effective agent of the unity of the Church:

I am speaking as to sensible people; judge for yourselves what I am saying.

The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?

Because the loaf of bread is one, we, though many, are one body, for we all partake of the one loaf.


Pax et Bonum
Hey there is one thing. Thanks.
 

Peterlag

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Don't rip those out of the Bible.

Don't rip these out either:

Romans 7:11
For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

Romans 7:20
Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

1 Corinthians 8:12
But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.

1 Timothy 5:20
Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

Hebrews 3:13
But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

Hebrews 12:1
Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

1 John 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

1 John 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1 John 2:12
I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.
I can't get to long winded here so I will comment on the first two... Romans 7

And so in my mind the 4 verses below fit perfectly. Every single person I know has told me about Romans 7 when I tell them I do not believe Paul taught about a "sin nature" for the Christian. What Paul talks about in the seventh chapter of Romans is what occurs to the believer who still thinks the Law applies to them. They end up spiritually dying by the commandment and realize that the commandment does not produce life. The war is with their flesh because they are still believing the Law has power over them. In the eighth chapter of Romans is where it explains how we overcome this whole issue by living in the spirit and being dead to the Law. We cannot live by faith in what Christ has done for us and still think our obedience to written laws are necessary. To do so takes away from the perfect work of Christ and places salvation and righteousness back in our own hands.

Romans 6:2
How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Romans 6:6
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Galatians 5:16,18
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
 

Peterlag

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It started here:

Matthew 26 NKJV
27 Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins

Now I know you are Catholic because Christianity was not even available until Acts.
 

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WRONG.

Jeremiah 31 is where we FIRST hear about the New Covenant. The author of Hebrews (Heb. 8:7–12) quotes this Jer. 31:31–34.

Also - if the book YOU’RE reading doesn’t have Matt. 7:19-23, Matt. 10:22, Matt. 24:13, Matt. 25:31–46, John 15:1-6 - then it’s not the
Christian Bible.
Holy Smokes there's a lot of Catholics on here. Christianity was not even available until Acts chapter 2.
 

Peterlag

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Well, I would say that all of James is addressed to Christians because it is addressed to the 12 tribes that are scattered abroad. :) Those two things are one and the same, really. In addition, James addresses his addressees personally as "brothers" almost 20 times... throughout the course of his letter.

Grace and peace to you.
The 12 tribes sounds a little Jewish to me.
 

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So you do think that Jesus was only joking.
Whatever you are talking about concerning if Jesus was joking does not change the facts that there was no new covenant until after Jesus left the planet.
 

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Whatever you are talking about concerning if Jesus was joking does not change the facts that there was no new covenant until after Jesus left the planet.
You deny that Jesus offered His disciples His New Covenant in Matthew 26:28.

You believe that He was only joking.

Whom to believe?

1. You
2. Jesus

Do you need a hint?