Aliens/nephillim at miami mall???

[Ziggy]

Were you there when God laid the foundations of the earth? Who was it that shouted for joy to see God's creation? It wasn't Adam. It wasn't any man. Think about it, sister.

I don't know, I might have been there before I was born into this planet.
I believe I have always been with God.
I don't know what form I had before I got here, and I don't know what form I'll have when I leave here.
All I know is that in this time and place I am flesh and blood and spirit.

1Jo 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Jesus IS the Angel of the Lord in the OT.
And if we are to become like him, then that leads to reason that we will be angels too.
But there have always been angels in heaven. Man has only been on earth a short while.
Some angels went to war with God and he cast them down to the earth.
The God made man with dirt and spit and breathed life into him.
But I believe we are the temple of the angels not only of those who fell, but those who came to serve.
And we lost our way, and the cares of this world made us forget what our purpose here on earth is.

And Jesus came to remind us.

Tuna on toast, some crackers and a couple pickles. And a butter pecan ensure.
Keep me in your thoughts

Hugs

 

[TLHKAJ]

We can't even be forgiven and cleansed if we have not admitted our need for cleansing and acknowledged that we can't save ourselves ....we need a Savior. BEWARE ....those who make boasts in their flesh, and all their good works! That person has never come and fallen at the feet of Jesus and repented of their sins. They are their own "god." And one day, He will say ..... "Depart from me, you who work iniquity. I never knew you."

Bottom line ....when we stand before Him, what will He see? Will He see our sins, or will He see the blood has been applied and covered everything?

I used to listen to a song by a Southern Gospel family, The McKameys. It is called, "When He sees me." The chorus says.... "When He sees me, He sees the blood of the Lamb. He sees me as worthy and not as I am. He views me in garments as white as the snow. For the Lamb of God is worthy, and He washed me - this, I know!"

 

[Freedm]

Nope, I'm saying the government is able to make fake images and people can film them and think they are real.

o.k. but just because it's possible to fake it, doesn't mean it's fake. You need a better reason than that to say it's fake.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I don't know, I might have been there before I was born into this planet.
I believe I have always been with God.

Sister, that isn't scriptural. God questioned Job to point out that he/Job was not there. Neither were you, nor any of us. If Job was there, God wouldn't have questioned him.

 

[Freedm]

Sister, that isn't scriptural. God questioned Job to point out that he/Job was not there. Neither were you, nor any of us. If Job was there, God wouldn't have questioned him.

Good reference.

 

[Ziggy]

Sister, that isn't scriptural. God questioned Job to point out that he/Job was not there. Neither were you, nor any of us. If Job was there, God wouldn't have questioned him.

There's a lot of things not written in scripture that I don't know.
And before there was a NT, they didn't know either.
So we're still learning.
And when we get HOME God will explain it all to us.
Much Love
Hugs

 

[TribulationSigns]

It sounds to me like you think the Bible wasn't written by men. You're making the point that we should only believe what's written in the Bible, and nothing else. Interestingly, the book of Enoch is included in the Ethiopian Bible, so which Bible should we believe according to you?

What men? Do you ever open the Holy Bible and find out the truth?

2nd Peter 1:21
"For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost"

You say not to believe Enoch, even though it is part of the Bible.

Do you even understand what Pseudepigrapha means? The book of Jude is Scrpture. The book of Enoch is NOT. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church has recognized the book of Enoch as Scripture. But the book of Enoch was NEVER referred to by Jesus or any of the New Testament writers as Scripture, and the book was not included in the New Testament by the apostles. But the New Testament clearly tells us that the apostles were identifying Scripture as it was being written (2 Peter 3:14-16; cf. 1 Timothy 5:18 and Luke 10:7 ). The New Testament books were being distributed by the apostles to the various churches to be read (Galatians 6:11; Colossians 4:16; 1 Thessalonians 5:27; 2 Thessalonians 2:2; 3:14). By the time the apostles died, the New Testament had been written and its books were known. The book of Enoch was never included in the Roman Catholic or Protestant Bibles. Some books were challenged later but never with success.

Therefore, Jesus and the apostles NEVERT called the book of Enoch Scripture, so cannot view it as authoritative since it is not the Word of God.

Deal with it.

 

[Ziggy]

o.k. but just because it's possible to fake it, doesn't mean it's fake. You need a better reason than that to say it's fake.

Gee I feel like I may have to take the stance of Naomanos.
I don't NEED to have a reason., but I'll give you the best one I got. I don't trust the governments or the media or technology or so-called science.
I don't have FAITH in any of them.
And they do nothing but decieve people to cause them to fear and bring men under their rule.

God is not the author of confusion. Man is.

Hugs

 

[TribulationSigns]

So, you didn't answer my question, which was whether you believe the government doesn't lie to the people, because that was your original point, not to take seriously anyone who distrusts the government. It sounds more like you've decided to just ignore the government, and pretend that nothing outside the Bible is of any consequence. I don't think that's how God intended you to go through life.

All the wisdom in the world, is not in the Bible. The Bible is a collection of important writings, but it is not an all encompassing divine encyclopedia sent down to us from heaven. It simply doesn't tell us everything, so then to pretend that nothing outside of the Bible matters, is very shortsighted indeed.

What part of my answer do you NOT understand? I do give a blip about the government. Who cares. I only deal with the Bible tell me what I need to do. I get wisdom from God, not the world.

It sounds like YOU wanted to be entertained by the "noises and wisdom of the world" and that is your problem because your work will be tested by fire one day.

Again, didn't you read in Scripture regarding the wisdom of the world?

1st Corinthians 1:21
"For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe."

Selah!

 

[Wrangler]

I wouldn't say that's definitive

What would you say is definitive?

 

[Ziggy]

What men? Do you ever open the Holy Bible and find out the truth?

2nd Peter 1:21
"For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost"



Do you even understand what Pseudepigrapha means? The book of Jude is Scrpture. The book of Enoch is NOT. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church has recognized the book of Enoch as Scripture. But the book of Enoch was NEVER referred to by Jesus or any of the New Testament writers as Scripture, and the book was not included in the New Testament by the apostles. But the New Testament clearly tells us that the apostles were identifying Scripture as it was being written (2 Peter 3:14-16; cf. 1 Timothy 5:18 and Luke 10:7 ). The New Testament books were being distributed by the apostles to the various churches to be read (Galatians 6:11; Colossians 4:16; 1 Thessalonians 5:27; 2 Thessalonians 2:2; 3:14). By the time the apostles died, the New Testament had been written and its books were known. The book of Enoch was never included in the Roman Catholic or Protestant Bibles. Some books were challenged later but never with success.

Therefore, Jesus and the apostles NEVERT called the book of Enoch Scripture, so cannot view it as authoritative since it is not the Word of God.

Deal with it.

Well I suppose you would have to go back to the Torah and ask the High Priests in Jerusalem why Jasher wasn't included in there.

The list of books included in the Catholic Bible was established as canon by the Council of Rome in 382, followed by those of Hippo in 393 and Carthage in 397. Between 385 and 405 CE, the early Christian church translated its canon into Vulgar Latin (the common Latin spoken by ordinary people), a translation known as the Vulgate.[53] Since then, Catholic Christians have held ecumenical councils to standardize their biblical canon. The Council of Trent (1545–63), held by the Catholic Church in response to the Protestant Reformation, authorized the Vulgate as its official Latin translation of the Bible.[54] A number of biblical canons have since evolved. Christian biblical canons range from the 73 books of the Catholic Church canon, and the 66-book canon of most Protestant denominations, to the 81 books of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church canon, among others.[55] Judaism has long accepted a single authoritative text, whereas Christianity has never had an official version, instead having many different manuscript traditions.

Bible - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

hugs

 

[DuckieLady]

People are nuts with nephilem and aliens. Nothing more than a fight at the mall.

People still go to malls?

 

[TribulationSigns]

You still have not answered my question from before....
Why is it the demons are not trying to oppress you?

Do you even know exactly what demons are? Are they the created angel beings that turned evil with their wings into batwings? No, demons are unclean spirit of man. A spirit of disobedience.

For example, the "exorcism" of Satan was done once and for all in the death and resurrection in the body of Christ, and its efficacy is demonstrated when you are born from above, being regenerated from the dead in the Spirit of Christ. When any soul is saved, that is efficaciously when they are loosed from the power and rule of the devil. That is effective when the unclean spirit of evil is cast out of you and the Spirit of Christ comes to dwell within you. An example can be seen in Saul (Acts 9:1-2) breathing out threats and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, and as he journeyed to Damascus, the Lord blinded him and then gave him the spiritual sight to see the truth. From then on he was no longer in bond-servitude to the devil, but was set free. In other words, He was spiritually set free of the Devil who ruled over him, and this is what the miracles of casting out Demons signified. They were "signs" for our learning that we were all in spiritual bondage, ruled by the power of Satan before the Spirit of Christ replaced the antichrist spirit. The clean spirit replaced the unclean spirit. Not a created spiritual being attacking you, silly!

Next, the context of verse 2 is a stand alone statement and does not preclude verse 3 as being related. That is a grammatical leap on your part. Showing love to strangers has the reason given for it "Because some have entertained angels unawares". It is a stand alone statement in the context of other instructions, and the implied angels are angelic beings which are sent. Ever encountered one?

"Some have entertained messengers" does not make any sense in fact, because if they are a messenger they are not a stranger but a brother, as per verse 1.

Verse 2 is a stand alone statement? LOL! That explains why many people are brainwashed by doctrine based on taking a single verse out of context. I am going to move on since I have explained my position, but seems you do not want to receive the truth.

Good day.

 

[dev553344]

People still go to malls?

Just to watch the fights. I read the news article and it said there was a youngster brawl there. That's what all the stuff was about.

 

[Freedm]

What men? Do you ever open the Holy Bible and find out the truth?

2nd Peter 1:21
"For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost"



Do you even understand what Pseudepigrapha means? The book of Jude is Scrpture. The book of Enoch is NOT. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church has recognized the book of Enoch as Scripture. But the book of Enoch was NEVER referred to by Jesus or any of the New Testament writers as Scripture, and the book was not included in the New Testament by the apostles. But the New Testament clearly tells us that the apostles were identifying Scripture as it was being written (2 Peter 3:14-16; cf. 1 Timothy 5:18 and Luke 10:7 ). The New Testament books were being distributed by the apostles to the various churches to be read (Galatians 6:11; Colossians 4:16; 1 Thessalonians 5:27; 2 Thessalonians 2:2; 3:14). By the time the apostles died, the New Testament had been written and its books were known. The book of Enoch was never included in the Roman Catholic or Protestant Bibles. Some books were challenged later but never with success.

Therefore, Jesus and the apostles NEVERT called the book of Enoch Scripture, so cannot view it as authoritative since it is not the Word of God.

Deal with it.

First of all, the entire Bible is not the word of God. It was written by men, inspired by God. Let me repeat: It was written by men. The only thing that was written by God are the ten commandments. Even the prophecies which God gave to the prophets, were written down by men, though these prophetic passages are likely the most accurate of the entire Bible, they make up only a tiny fraction of the entire book. The rest is recounted from memories and second hand stories. We know for a fact that the events recorded in the new testament were not recorded word for word, but by approximation. All you have to do is see how the gospels, telling the same stories, tell them very differently. This is because they were written by men, who received the stories by word of mouth, and then wrote the stories in their own words.

Secondly, there are an unimaginable number of truths in our universe that are not even mentioned in our Bible, so to use the argument that "it's not mentioned in the Bible, so therefore it's not true" is a logical fallacy.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Well I suppose you would have to go back to the Torah and ask the High Priests in Jerusalem why Jasher wasn't included in there.

The list of books included in the Catholic Bible was established as canon by the Council of Rome in 382, followed by those of Hippo in 393 and Carthage in 397. Between 385 and 405 CE, the early Christian church translated its canon into Vulgar Latin (the common Latin spoken by ordinary people), a translation known as the Vulgate.[53] Since then, Catholic Christians have held ecumenical councils to standardize their biblical canon. The Council of Trent (1545–63), held by the Catholic Church in response to the Protestant Reformation, authorized the Vulgate as its official Latin translation of the Bible.[54] A number of biblical canons have since evolved. Christian biblical canons range from the 73 books of the Catholic Church canon, and the 66-book canon of most Protestant denominations, to the 81 books of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church canon, among others.[55] Judaism has long accepted a single authoritative text, whereas Christianity has never had an official version, instead having many different manuscript traditions.

Bible - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

hugs

What did I tell you? Focus on your Scripture (hopefully, the 66 book of the Bible) rather than what wordly Wikipedia, the Catholic Bible, etc. says.

Do you realize that the main reason for the Jewish rejection of the apocryphal book of Enoch is that it is inconsistent with the teachings of the Torah. Actually, from the standpoint of Rabbinic Judaism, the book is considered to be heretical. Enough said.

 

[Freedm]

What would you say is definitive?

If they had attacked you, that would indicate evil, but you only said you felt a void. That comes from you, not from them. So, your feelings do not define them. That's why it's not definitive.

 

[Freedm]

Do you realize that the main reason for the Jewish rejection of the apocryphal book of Enoch is that it is inconsistent with the teachings of the Torah.

I don't buy that argument that it's inconsistent with the old testament, because even within our currently accepted Bible, there are many scriptures that seem to contradict each other, yet we still accept it all as Biblical truth. I think it wasn't accepted, because the dudes who made the decision thought it was too outrageous. That was their opinion. We can have our own opinions.

 

[David H.]

Do you even know exactly what demons are? Are they the created angel beings that turned evil with their wings into batwings? No, demons are unclean spirit of man. A spirit of disobedience.

Demons are the spirits of the Nephilim, the giants birthed by the fallen angels and daughters of men, who were destroyed in the flood during Noah's time. Genesis 6. The fallen angels themselves are chained in the bottomless pit till judgment day. (2 Peter 2:4).

They were "signs" for our learning that we were all in spiritual bondage, ruled by the power of Satan before the Spirit of Christ replaced the antichrist spirit. The clean spirit replaced the unclean spirit. Not a created spiritual being attacking you, silly!

All you are showing here is your deistic viewpoint that denies the supernatural Spirit Realm.... I Have encountered demons many times. I Am quoting scripture to you, you are denying the very scriptures themselves, not me. The demonic world is very real, not just a sign.

 

[TribulationSigns]

First of all, the entire Bible is not the word of God. It was written by men, inspired by God. Let me repeat: It was written by men. The only thing that was written by God are the ten commandments. Even the prophecies which God gave to the prophets, were written down by men, though these prophetic passages are likely the most accurate of the entire Bible, they make up only a tiny fraction of the entire book. The rest is recounted from memories and second hand stories. We know for a fact that the events recorded in the new testament were not recorded word for word, but by approximation. All you have to do is see how the gospels, telling the same stories, tell them very differently. This is because they were written by men, who received the stories by word of mouth, and then wrote the stories in their own words.

Secondly, there are an unimaginable number of truths in our universe that are not even mentioned in our Bible, so to use the argument that "it's not mentioned in the Bible, so therefore it's not true" is a logical fallacy.

Nonsense! Obviously, you are not a bible student or lack spiritual understanding whatsoever. So I will place you on the ignore list. Good bye.