There Are No People In Heaven / The Kingdom.
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Reality refers to the state of things as they exist, while actuality refers to the state of things as they are perceived.
Well, not if this were the case… if not a thing appeared in just such a way as to make it seem to itself that it’s in some thing.
If not a thing is appearing to itself that would mean there aren’t things (perceived).
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How can you know that? There are always a few in the world who walk in the higher calling. These don't draw attention to themselves...they are selfless because they are dead in Christ...so that they walk in resurrection life. They would appear weak to people.
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What about Moses and Elijah on the Mount of Transfiguration?
They seemed very alive there.
And Abraham...he had already seen Jesus's tour of Israel.
So to say Heaven has no people in it is really false. Jesus also said that God is the God of the living, not the dead and that his followers never die but are changed in the twinkling of an eye.
Just saying
They seemed very alive there.
And Abraham...he had already seen Jesus's tour of Israel.
So to say Heaven has no people in it is really false. Jesus also said that God is the God of the living, not the dead and that his followers never die but are changed in the twinkling of an eye.
Just saying
Wasn't that a "vision?" Visions have purpose, but the immediate reality is not actually there.
Ummmm....Peter was wanting to build them something....not exactly a vision.
They were there and alive.
Mt 17:9 And as they were coming down the mountain, Jesus commanded them, “Tell no one the vision, until the Son of Man is raised from the dead.”
Jesus said that Abraham saw and was glad about this day. Not "was waiting to see"....as in he had already had seen.
Think of moving through time as similar as to moving across the room...you can move back and forth. That's the closest we can understand to what we will see and do when we get to Heaven.
Jesus said also that God is the God of the living and not the dead. Not the God of those who will live again. Saying such things is going beyond what is written. I'm not so full of hubris to do such things.
That's a prime example of translation shopping to force the theology you want instead of letting the text explain itself.
Absolutely garbage....
Heaven is without a box of time controlling the occupants the way you understand time.
Occupants in Heaven have, are, and always will be there. That's the only way to see God face-to-face.
So other than try to make people doubt what God has plainly said through the apostles and prophets...what do you hope to accomplish?
Time is the thought, ‘time’.
There are no occupants of heaven.
That’s why it’s heaven.
Ma repeatedly bangs and bangs on the door… “Let me in! Let me in! I want to know this peace too!”
To which a voice replies, “… but if we let you in, there won’t be this peace!”
I’m simply pointing out there aren’t people in heaven
Doubt is not an action nor behavior.
Doubt is an emotion.
Absolute ___________, no matter what goes in that blank… is a belief.
Absolute is, absolute.
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