Critical thinking and education is linked to loss of faith

[David in NJ]

Critical thinking and education is linked to faith, and faith to the life of the coming age, in scripture.

TRUE, but what came first "critical thinking or faith"???

 

[Matthias]

TRUE, but what came first "critical thinking or faith"???

Which do you think, and why?

 

[David in NJ]

Which do you think, and why?

Faith came first.

Can you prove or disavow???

 

[Matthias]

Faith came first.

Can you prove or disavow???

“So faith comes from hearing the message, and the message that is heard is what Christ spoke.”

(Romans 10:17, GW)

 

[David in NJ]

“So faith comes from hearing the message, and the message that is heard is what Christ spoke.”

(Romans 10:17, GW)

We can actually say that critical thinking came first when we look at where and when it took place.

Do you know where???

 

[Matthias]

We can actually say that critical thinking came first when we look at where and when it took place.

Do you know where???

Where and when did it take place?

 

[David in NJ]

Where and when did it take place?

Now the serpent was more cunning(critical thinking in deception) than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made.
And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?”

 

[Matthias]

Now the serpent was more cunning(critical thinking in deception) than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made.
And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?”

She should have thought critically when he asked.

 

[David in NJ]

She should have thought critically when he asked.

She did think critically!!!

So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate.

She should of thought on the Word that was given to her to use critical analysis via FAITH

 

[Matthias]

She did think critically!!!

In that, she did the right thing.

So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate.

She should of thought on the Word that was given to her to use critical analysis via FAITH

She allowed herself to be deceived.

 

[David in NJ]

In that, she did the right thing.



She allowed herself to be deceived.

She allowed herself to be deceived via critical thinking of what God said.

Everyone has a choice to accept by faith the word of the Lord or to to be self-aware via critical thinking of what God said

 

[Matthias]

She allowed herself to be deceived via critical thinking of what God said.

She allowed herself to be deceived via not thinking critically enough about what the devil said. The consequence was death.

Everyone has a choice to accept by faith the word of the Lord or to to be self-aware via critical thinking of what God said

God designed and gave us brains in order for us to think critically.

 

[David in NJ]

She allowed herself to be deceived via not thinking critically about what the devil said.

100% Truth

However that is a vacuum, by itself, and we KNOW it was not in a vacuum but in the Garden with additional input = SerpentSpeak

Therefore, she adopted the way of the twisting Serpent in aligning her 'critical thinking' with that of the Serpent's

Which is EXACTLY what God warn's us of - 2 Corinthians 11:3

But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning/critical thinking, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.

 

[Matthias]

100% Truth

However that is a vacuum, by itself, and we KNOW it was not in a vacuum but in the Garden with additional input = SerpentSpeak

Therefore, she adopted the way of the twisting Serpent in aligning her 'critical thinking' with that of the Serpent's

Which is EXACTLY what God warn's us of - 2 Corinthians 11:3

But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning/critical thinking, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.

It’s not complicated.

 

[David in NJ]

It’s not complicated.

CORRECT

Are you now going to BELIEVE = Matthew 4:4

 

[Matthias]

CORRECT

Are you now going to BELIEVE = Matthew 4:4

I already believe Matthew 4:4, and have for a very long time. Luke 6:40.

 

[David in NJ]

I already believe Matthew 4:4, and have for a very long time. Luke 6:40.

How many Elohim Spoken of in Genesis chapter 1

 

[MA2444]

She did think critically!!!

So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate.

She should of thought on the Word that was given to her to use critical analysis via FAITH

Did she really though? This was pre fall so she had no knowledge of good and evil. We know that humans can reason and learn, even before the fall...but how long were they there before the fall? I've heard two halfway credible stories/views on it. One was, just a few days (!) and the other view was 7 years...

Either way I think, it wasn't very long for them to be able to learn a whole lot. And we also know (no disrespect to women!) that, Eve was not the bright bulb between her and Adam, so how critically was she able to think? I submit that it wasn't much in the way of critical thinking!

So they were pre fall, and apparently, the Lord would speak with them daily in the cool of the evening. SO Adam & Eve were prolly busy all day! Naming the animals, tending the garden, exploring the garden. Eve learning how to be a help meet for Adam...I bet they were quite busy and this was all basic stuff that they had no prior knowledge of, so they prolly learned critical thinking in Junior High (after the fall).

So Faith did come first. All they really knew is there is a God and they speak with Him daily and He teaches them and takes care of them and they had no reason to doubt God because He had never lied to them before, so they didn't know what a lie was, so Eve was able to be deceived. (Those Impulsive Women...!) Now Adam knew it was dead dog wrong to eat that fruit from the get go. He sinned knowingly. And in a way...can you blame him? Eve was the best wife that he ever had (Lol) and she was crafted by the very hand of God, so you know she was a knockout, and Adam loved her like a wife. So Adam loved her unconditionally and sinned knowingly so that Eve would not be alone in getting into trouble!

Just like a good husband nowadays. She messes up, it is her fault, clearly, what will the husband do? Well he deals with the situation however he needs to at the moment and deals with the consequences when they get home again...

Eh?

 

[Matthias]

How many Elohim Spoken of in Genesis chapter 1

Yahweh and numberless angels.

 

[David in NJ]

Did she really though? This was pre fall so she had no knowledge of good and evil. We know that humans can reason and learn, even before the fall...but how long were they there before the fall? I've heard two halfway credible stories/views on it. One was, just a few days (!) and the other view was 7 years...

Either way I think, it wasn't very long for them to be able to learn a whole lot. And we also know (no disrespect to women!) that, Eve was not the bright bulb between her and Adam, so how critically was she able to think? I submit that it wasn't much in the way of critical thinking!

So they were pre fall, and apparently, the Lord would speak with them daily in the cool of the evening. SO Adam & Eve were prolly busy all day! Naming the animals, tending the garden, exploring the garden. Eve learning how to be a help meet for Adam...I bet they were quite busy and this was all basic stuff that they had no prior knowledge of, so they prolly learned critical thinking in Junior High (after the fall).

So Faith did come first. All they really knew is there is a God and they speak with Him daily and He teaches them and takes care of them and they had no reason to doubt God because He had never lied to them before, so they didn't know what a lie was, so Eve was able to be deceived. (Those Impulsive Women...!) Now Adam knew it was dead dog wrong to eat that fruit from the get go. He sinned knowingly. And in a way...can you blame him? Eve was the best wife that he ever had (Lol) and she was crafted by the very hand of God, so you know she was a knockout, and Adam loved her like a wife. So Adam loved her unconditionally and sinned knowingly so that Eve would not be alone in getting into trouble!

Just like a good husband nowadays. She messes up, it is her fault, clearly, what will the husband do? Well he deals with the situation however he needs to at the moment and deals with the consequences when they get home again...

Eh?

Correct

As i pointed out = Eve used the Serpents critical thinking to override her thinking which was God's Word

Faith came first = God Said = then came the Serpent with his critical thinking which Eve converted too