Critical thinking and education is linked to loss of faith

[Riven]

Its impossible to prove that God does not exist.

However, you can choose to believe that God does not exist.

The smart person, the astute person, the educated person... who wants to believe that there is no God, always leaves room for....."but it can't be proven that God does not exist".

The "less educated" Atheist, can't see it that way.

We also can't prove that big foot doesn't exist.

 

[Behold]

We also can't prove that big foot doesn't exist.

Atheists are not trying to get rid of Bigfoot.
It God who they are concerned about......and rightly so.

The best thing an atheist can do, is just accept that " its impossible to prove that God does not exist'.

Keep that mindset.

And i'll show you something interesting.

The Rose.
This beautiful plant.

We are in the year '2025.
And in '2025, Science......cannot create a ROSE from Nothing.
They can clone it, or make a hybrid.......but they can't create a Rose from Nothing.
God already did.

 

[Riven]

Atheists are not trying to get rid of Bigfoot.
It God who they are concerned about......and rightly so.

Everyone is concerned about God's existence in one way or another.

The best thing an atheist can do, is just accept that " its impossible to prove that God does not exist'.

Atheists aren't concerned about proving a negative. It's ultimately up to Christians to provide substantial evidence for the claims made in the bible. I expect the same of Islam.

Keep that mindset.

And i'll show you something interesting.

The Rose.
This beautiful plant.

We are in the year '2025.
And in '2025, Science......cannot create a ROSE from Nothing.
They can clone it, or make a hybrid.......but they can't create a Rose from Nothing.
God already did.

How do you know it was God that did it?

 

[Behold]

Everyone is concerned about God's existence in one way or another.

Its innate .

Atheists aren't concerned about proving a negative.

Atheist's created the negative.
THEY decided that God isn't there, which is actually arguing for His existance, and they dont realize it.
As you dont argue against what isn't., you argue against what is..... = Atheism

It's ultimately up to Christians to provide substantial evidence for the claims made in the bible. I expect the same of Islam.

That is the Atheist cop out, which would require a Christian to prove God's Existence.
When in fact, creation proves God's existance, as you can't have creation without a Creator.

Can a book write itself?

Can a painting paint itself?

Did AI create itself?

Can a human baby create itself?

Can the Universe create itself. ???????????????????????

So there is your proof.

How do you know it was God that did it?

Because He said so., and because the way He said He created it, happened.
its written down for anyone to find, read, and consider.

See, original creation of everything, was not by birth.. it was by "after its kind"..
In other words.......fully formed, at first.

 

[Matthias]

Everyone is concerned about God's existence in one way or another.


Atheists aren't concerned about proving a negative. It's ultimately up to Christians to provide substantial evidence for the claims made in the bible. I expect the same of Islam.


How do you know it was God that did it?

Do you think Bigfoot did it? If so, why? If not, how do you know that Bigfoot didn’t do it?

 

[The Learner]

i need rest now

 

[Riven]

Do you think Bigfoot did it? If so, why? If not, how do you know that Bigfoot didn’t do it?

No. Because Bigfoot doesn't exist. Even if he did exist, he can't simultaneously exist outside of the universe and within it.

See, I find it more comforting to say I don't know. Because I truly don't. The atheist who says they know there is no God, is just as religious as the Christian that says he knows there is one.

 

[Sister-n-Christ]

Then why do majority of believers lose their faith as they step into higher levels of education?

It could in part be due to peer pressure.

If the consensus holds that knowledge erodes faith, academia could instill a necessary sense of capitulation to the educated faithless status quo.

 

[Riven]

It could in part be due to peer pressure.

If the consensus holds that knowledge erodes faith, academia could instill a necessary sense of capitulation to the educated faithless status quo.

I agree, in part. There is certainly an amount of peer pressure in any group setting. Atheists are not above attacking people for questioning science. This was put on full display for the world to see during Covid. "The Science" was not to be questioned.

I say in part, because Christians also put pressure on others to conform. Groups, especially dogmatic ones, tend to despise the individual.

 

[Rockerduck]

There is no such thing as scientist. In reality they are detectives, they can only discover what has already been created. Scientist do not create anything; they can combine elements that already exist

 

[Matthias]

No. Because Bigfoot doesn't exist.

How do you know that Bigfoot doesn’t exist?

Even if he did exist, he can't simultaneously exist outside of the universe and within it.

See, I find it more comforting to say I don't know. Because I truly don't. The atheist who says they know there is no God, is just as religious as the Christian that says he knows there is one.

In the classroom I told students that it was fine to say that they didn’t know something if / when they didn’t know something. But they were still held accountable for knowing the material covered in class on tests.

 

[Sister-n-Christ]

I agree, in part. There is certainly an amount of peer pressure in any group setting. Atheists are not above attacking people for questioning science. This was put on full display for the world to see during Covid. "The Science" was not to be questioned.

I say in part, because Christians also put pressure on others to conform. Groups, especially dogmatic ones, tend to despise the individual.

I think it's also a people thing regardless of belief systems. We feel safe and comfortable with those who are like us.

In group settings people will very often self segregate.

 

[Riven]

How do you know that Bigfoot doesn’t exist?

Well, I guess I don't know for certain. But there's a very noticeable lack of evidence.

In the classroom I told students that it was fine to say that they didn’t know something if / when they didn’t know something. But they were still held accountable for knowing the material covered in class on tests.

That's good. I think people are afraid to say they don't know for fear of being seen as ignorant. Everyone has an opinion on everything nowadays.

 

[Matthias]

Well, I guess I don't know for certain. But there's a very noticeable lack of evidence.

Do you see no evidence whatsoever for the existence of God? Do you see more evidence - lacking as it is - for the existence of Bigfoot than for the existence of God?

 

[Riven]

Do you see no evidence whatsoever for the existence of God?

I see plenty of evidence. The universe itself is evidence of something. However, I don't see any evidence that it was the Christian God that created everything. It could just as well have been Thor or Zeus.

Christians say they know it was God. But they really don't. None of us do because we weren't there. Just like we don't know for certain what happens after death, if anything happens at all.

Do you see more evidence - lacking as it is - for the existence of Bigfoot than for the existence of God?

No, I see less for Bigfoot.

 

[Matthias]

I see plenty of evidence.

I started a thread this morning with the thought in mind that you did see at least some evidence for the possible existence of God. It’s titled “Why Cold-Case Skills Can Help You Examine Christianity”. You strike me as a highly intelligent person; one who might very well embrace taking a forensic statement analysis approach toward examining the Gospels. The thread is located in the Inter-Faith Discussion forum. My hope is that you will take a few minutes (less than 10) to take a look at a couple of short clips.

The universe itself is evidence of something.

You haven’t entirely ruled out that it is also evidence of someone.

However, I don't see any evidence that it was the Christian God that created everything. It could just as well have been Thor or Zeus.

The same skills that can help us examine Christianity can help us examine Thor or Zeus.

Christians say they know it was God. But they really don't. None of us do because we weren't there. Just like we don't know for certain what happens after death, if anything happens at all.

Jesus has been resurrected from the dead.

No, I see less for Bigfoot.

I’ve seen him in some television commercials but they didn’t suggest that he is the creator of the heavens and the earth.