Jesus is the answer. - But what's the question?

[Helen]

I have no unanswered questions….if you have unanswered questions, then you don’t have the truth.

Wow! You have no idea how much this reveals about you!
So you think that you have plumbed the depth and width of Father God Himself ….

“…he that thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall. “
”Pride cometh before a fall.”

the great apostle himself says - “ I know nothing but Christ , and Him crucified ..”

 

[Behold]

Since the Jews had no belief in an immortal soul

So, if you are an unsaved Jew, then that explains why your bizarre teaching is NT rejecting theology.

 

[Behold]

If you say so QT….you obviously have unanswered questions….that is not my problem.

Your problem is the Religious Cult that trained you to teach their NT rejecting theology.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Wow! You have no idea how much this reveals about you!
So you think that you have plumbed the depth and width of Father God Himself ….

Did I say that? Or did I say that I have no unanswered questions? What that says about me is that I bothered to find out the answers for myself through very deep Bible study. Anyone can do this if they put in the effort. There are endless resources available….so no excuses for not doing your homework.

1 Cor 2:13-16 NKJV…
“These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. For “who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.”

So we do not know “the mind of the LORD” (Jehovah) but we can discern from his teachings, “the mind of Christ”. All that Jesus taught was from his God and Father. (John 7:16)

“…he that thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall. “
”Pride cometh before a fall.”

the great apostle himself says - “ I know nothing but Christ , and Him crucified ..”

Cherry picked verses that really do not mean much unless you follow what Jesus himself taught, rather than what Christendom has embraced……which has led to nothing but disunity and an endless bickering over who has the real truth….pick a denomination. (1 Cor 1:10) Do you imagine that God sees denominations who all believe different things? Does the Holy Spirit divide people, or does it unite them with one truth?

Because God has one truth, only one group of people have accepted it, against all odds. Why? Because Jesus told them that they would be a hated minority just like he and his disciples were back in the first century, trying to supplant centuries of false worship among God‘s own people. (John 15:18-21) Those who claimed to worship the same God were Christ’s worse enemies, who hated him enough to want him dead.

Did the majority of those misled Jews think for one moment that they could be wrong about the one who was painted by their religious leaders as nothing more than a hated apostate?…a cult leader?

Perhaps try applying those scriptures to the majority today who also think they cannot be wrong….

 

[Aunty Jane]

So, if you are an unsaved Jew, then that explains why your bizarre teaching is NT rejecting theology.

I am a Christian who believes what Christ taught and what he promoted as scriptural truth….

”Theology“ is not a study of the Bible…..it is a study of what the church teaches about the Bible…two entirely different things. Like the difference between Scripture and the Talmud….or Christianity and the Catechism.

“Unsaved”?….everyone who does not subscribe to your version of things is doomed apparently…..be careful, you are not the one who determines such things…..God has already appointed his judge…and it is isn’t you.

Your problem is the Religious Cult that trained you to teach their NT rejecting theology.

LOL….”my problem”? What is “your problem”?
And what “cult” are you the leader of?
What branch of “theology” do you subscribe to?
From what I have seen in your posts, you have your very own cult…..teaching your own “branch” of your own “theology”.

Ummm…..Good luck with that.

 

[Behold]

Because Jesus told them that they would be a hated minority just like he and his disciples were back in the first century,

Its the "born again" Christians you are referring to, who are "hated for Jesus's sake".

See, this world is run by the "god of this world" and He hates Christiand and Jews, specifically, because of their former, and current, and to be continued relationship with God that Satan had and threw away.

Satan is ENVIOUS of Christians and JEWS, and the word of God teaches... "who can stand before envy"?
This means that envy is fueld by a RAGING Jealous Hatred, that is feral...it knows no boundry and gives no quarter.

This is why Satan's Death Cults.....like the Islmaic fanatics who run Iran, and export Terror as Hamas and similar..... refuse to have "our land" and "Israel"... as they wont have Israel to exist as that is the will of their father.

And right now, somewhere in this world.......many Christians are being slaughtered and you rarely hear about it....and that is also the will of Satan being perpetrated as it was in 1st and 2nd Centuray Rome, when they are feeding Christians to the Lions.

 

[Behold]

I am a Christian who believes what Christ taught and what he promoted as scriptural truth….

Explain what you mean when you identify yourself as being a "christian", ... by simply explaining how you became one.

”Theology“ is not a study of the Bible….

We are on a "chrisitan" forum, so, its the accepted and common knowledge that when the term "theology" is used on the Forum, then this is describing the BELIEF System of a denomination, a cult, or a person who is claiming to be a "Chrisitan".

“Unsaved”?….everyone who does not subscribe to your version of things is doomed apparently…

Jesus explained clearly = "the Way" to heaven.....and in the "time of the Gentiles".. which we are in, then that "Way" is Paul's Gospel.

Any other gospel is this..

Galatians 1:8

And what “cult” are you the leader of?

I only teach Paul's theology (doctrine).

Do a Google or Wiki search, and then come back and pretend that what you learned online, is what you already knew.. @Aunty Jane

What branch of “theology” do you subscribe to?

I only teach = Paul's Gospel and NT Doctrine for the church, that was delivered to Him personally by Jesus..

From what I have seen in your posts, you have your very own cult…..teaching your own “branch” of your own “theology”.

What else can a cult member say, then to say that about Paul's Theology that i teach.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Its the "born again" Christians you are referring to, who are "hated for Jesus's sake".

And who, among the many self-professed “born again Christians” here, can give us a unified and explicit explanation of what that means? What is the purpose of being “born again”?

See, this world is run by the "god of this world" and He hates Christiand and Jews, specifically, because of their former, and current, and to be continued relationship with God that Satan had and threw away.

I believe we need a clear understanding of what it means to be “Jewish” in God’s definition.
In Jesus’ day, the Pharisees were obsessed with their lineage, but completely forgot why Abraham’s descendants were chosen to be the ones through whom their Messiah would come.

It wasn’t just their lineage alone that made them “God’s people”…it was also their conduct and obedience to the laws he gave to them exclusively. Did they prove to be “God’s people” by their conduct?

Why did God then reject the ones who rejected his Christ and choose a new “Israel” who were made up of both Jewish and gentile disciples of Christ? (Gal 6:16; Matt 23:37-39)

Satan is ENVIOUS of Christians and JEWS, and the word of God teaches... "who can stand before envy"?
This means that envy is fueld by a RAGING Jealous Hatred, that is feral...it knows no boundry and gives no quarter.

Satan hates those who serve the interests of the true God by exposing the false ”Christianity” that he planted so long ago, that no one really knows the truth anymore.
If his hatred was directed only at the real Christians, then everyone would know who they are…..he cannot have that, so he vents his rage on all of God’s creation.…making sure that his own evil personality is reflected in all aspects of this world, among mankind as well as in the animal kingdom.

This is why Satan's Death Cults.....like the Islmaic fanatics who run Iran, and export Terror as Hamas and similar..... refuse to have "our land" and "Israel"... as they wont have Israel to exist as that is the will of their father.

And right now, somewhere in this world.......many Christians are being slaughtered and you rarely hear about it....and that is also the will of Satan being perpetrated as it was in 1st and 2nd Centuray Rome, when they are feeding Christians to the Lions.

Yes, and real Christians are among them, but not so as to identify them specifically……the whole purpose of the “weeds” was to mimic the “wheat” and confuse people as to which was which….. if you know what those “weeds” were to Jesus’ first century audience, you would understand the significance of the parable in identifying the devil’s ploy.

 

[Behold]

And who, among the many self-professed “born again Christians” here, can give us a unified and explicit explanation of what that means? What is the purpose of being “born again”?

So, you have decided that you can't explain how you became a Christian and want to deflect the question..., or you have decided that you dont want to tell the Christians here, your cult's concept of that, and will just dodge the question?

Is it both?

Be thinking about it till later........., as the more you dodge, the more obvious is your Cult.
Thats a fact.

I believe we need a clear understanding of what it means to be “Jewish” in God’s definition.

The clear definition is .......it will be the same that God resumes His dealing with, in the Trib, as He was dealing with in the OT.

If his hatred was directed only at the real Christians, then everyone would know who they are…..he cannot have that, so he vents his rage on all of God’s creation.…

Satan hates God's creation, all of it.
However, because Jews are the "chosen" and the Christians are the eternally "redeemed" He will always prioritize those 2 to try to destroy.

 

[Aunty Jane]

So, you have decided that you can't explain how you became a Christian and want to deflect the question..., or you have decided that you dont want to tell the Christians here, your cult's concept of that, and will just dodge the question?

Is it both?

Sorry…I was talking to someone else and was going to address your points next, but you are so self focused that you didn’t give me time to respond before hitting me with more accusations.

You are an ill informed bully…..so perhaps you need to climb down off your high horse and listen for a change.

 

[Behold]

Sorry…I was talking to someone else

No need to be sorry.

Just answer my Question.. @Aunty Jane

Here it is again for you..

""""'Explain what you mean when you identify yourself as being a "christian", ... by simply explaining how you became one.""""

You are an ill informed bully…..so perhaps you need to climb down off your high horse and listen for a change.

"sticks and stones"... little Cultic one..... so,.... You are welcome to your vain opinions, as they also inform your theology.
You pretend to be a teacher, and yet your posts are deeply offensive to Christians, and you enjoy that opportunity.
Its why you are on the Forum.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Explain what you mean when you identify yourself as being a "christian", ... by simply explaining how you became one.

Patients……I was born into the church system and raised by my parents with church theology. But as I grew up my own curiosity got the better of me and I began to ask questions…..the problem was, these were questions that my church, and I later found out, that most of Christendom’s churches had the same difficulty answering.

So in my early 20’s I began a search for the true God and I left Christendom because I could not find him in any of their denominations. I looked into Eastern religions but found the idolatry repulsive. I tried Mormonism, but found the concepts they promoted to be more like science fiction than biblical truth.

I became disillusioned with religion, and then turned to science and it’s evolutionary theory….but the more I studied, the more I saw intelligent design and the suggestive language in which it was couched. The terms “might have“ and “could have” were recurring and “this leads us to believe”…meant it takes more faith to believe in evolution than it does to believe in an intelligent Creator.

Just as I was about to give up, I asked God to show me if he was really there…and guess what? There was a knock at my door and there were people who wanted to teach me the Bible. As I had heard only bad things about these people, I decided to throw my questions at them, expecting the same response that I got from the other churches….but to my complete surprise, they asked me to go and get my own Bible and that they would show me the answers to my questions……one by one my Bible gave me the answers that the church system obviously did not know were there or had completely ignored. My questions continued and the answers kept coming….solid biblical answers, creating a big picture that was never even discussed in my church.

This was the truth, hiding in plain sight all along. My heart embraced it and I began an excursion into the Bible such as I never knew could be possible for someone with no degrees. I learned how to study the Bible without the shackles of theology creating insurmountable road bocks.

A “Christian” is a footstep follower of Jesus Christ.….plain and simple, he is the model for us to follow his example.
He was first and foremost a preacher and teacher, and his most important subject was the Kingdom of God, of which he was the designated King. Most Christians have no idea what God’s Kingdom is or how it “comes”.

In my experience, none of the churches are followers of Christ in many important ways. By their actions they prove themselves to be “part of the world” when Jesus told us not to be. (John 17:16: John 18:36)
So many are up to their necks in politics and patriotism….supporting bloodshed and justifying political or racial hatreds (Matt 5:43-44)….or trying to water down Jesus teachings on marriage and divorce and morality.

They promote belief in an angry God who punishes souls in a fiery hell for all eternity, where such a thing is in no way according to God’s justice. All God’s punishments under Israel’s law were administered to promote repentance, never were the guilty punished with ongoing torture.
The god of Christendom is not one whom I find remotely loving or just.

We are on a "chrisitan" forum, so, its the accepted and common knowledge that when the term "theology" is used on the Forum, then this is describing the BELIEF System of a denomination, a cult, or a person who is claiming to be a "Chrisitan".

Well, its a broad application when you consider who invented the definition of a Christian forum.
Claiming to be a Christian doesn’t make you one….we are all here discussing our beliefs…aren’t we?

Jesus explained clearly = "the Way" to heaven.....and in the "time of the Gentiles".. which we are in, then that "Way" is Paul's Gospel.

Is Paul’s gospel in any way different to the one promoted by Jesus’ other apostles? Are we to believe that Paul alone is the one we should follow? Who said?

Any other gospel is this..

Galatians 1:8


I only teach Paul's theology (doctrine).

That is your choice, but he foundations of the Kingdom of God in heaven are built on the names of the 12….(Rev 21:14)
Paul was not one of the 12. His works form a large part of the Christian Scriptures, but by no means the only valid part. He was not a close companion of Jesus like the other apostles….his assignment was primarily to the gentiles because he was not an uneducated fisherman, whom the Greek philosophers would have rejected out of hand.
Paul could hold his own with highly educated men and with political officials.

Do a Google or Wiki search, and then come back and pretend that what you learned online, is what you already knew.. @Aunty Jane

As if Wiki has anything to teach me about God…is it a resource that you use? That could be your problem…

I only teach = Paul's Gospel and NT Doctrine for the church, that was delivered to Him personally by Jesus..

As if Jesus did not personally teach his other apostles…. seriously….are you for real?

What else can a cult member say, then to say that about Paul's Theology that i teach.

I’m sure Paul would be cringing at what you teach….did he disagree with the other apostles?….as if Jesus didn’t also teach the 12. What bubble are you in?

"sticks and stones"... little Cultic one..... so,.... You are welcome to your vain opinions, as they also inform your theology.
You pretend to be a teacher, and yet your posts are deeply offensive to Christians, and you enjoy that opportunity.
Its why you are on the Forum.

LOL….OK what about the times you deeply offend other Christians here….who made you the arbiter of what is truth? Who says your theology is the correct one? You?

Your beliefs are stunted and ridiculous IMO!….even delusional….but you are welcome to them too.

The appointed judge will tell us all if we got it right or wrong….let’s just see….

 

[Behold]

A “Christian” is a footstep follower of Jesus Christ.….

What you are describing is a disciple, and a person can be a diciple, and not be Christian, as following Jesus does not make you Christian anymore then following a bear makes you a bear.

See, a person who is a SINNER... becomes a Christian....and they were not following Christ before they became a Christian...

So, i'll ask you again.

How did you BECOME = a Christian...?

 

[Behold]

@Aunty Jane said."

"""""Well, its a broad application when you consider who invented the definition of a Christian forum.
Claiming to be a Christian doesn’t make you one….we are all here discussing our beliefs…aren’t we?"""""

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Being a follower of Christ does not make you a Christian




@Aunty Jane said:

Is Paul’s gospel in any way different to the one promoted by Jesus’ other apostles? Are we to believe that Paul alone is the one we should follow? Who said?

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Paul's gospel was not give to the "other Apostle" when Jesus was in His earthly minstry.
How do we know?
Its because Paul's Gospel, deals with the Crucifixion and New Covenant, that was created by Christ's death on the Cross.

Jesus had not died on the Cross when He was with the 12 aposltes, so, we see that they could not have had Paul's Gospel



@Aunty Jane said:

""""""That is your choice, but he foundations of the Kingdom of God in heaven are built on the names of the 12…"""""

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The Church is build on the Death and Resurrection of Jesus.......because the Cross of Christ birthed the Church

So, any Gospel that is not related to PAUL's that is "the preaching of the Cross"......is a false Gospel... = Galatians 1:8



@Aunty Jane said.. :

"""""""""As if Jesus did not personally teach his other apostles…. seriously….are you for real?""""""
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Jesus personally taught the 12 a lot but He didnt teach them Paul's Gospel, because Jesus didnt give it to Paul, untill Jesus was back in Heaven......and Later, in Acts 15, Paul taught taught HIS Gospel, to all the Apostles.



@Aunty Jane said..:

"""""Your beliefs are stunted and ridiculous IMO!….even delusional….but you are welcome to them too."""""

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Paul's Gosple is very simple.

Its Jesus on the Cross, dying for your sin, so that God will accept you, and give you the Gift of Salvation.

This is "The Gospel".....and any other is : Galatians 1:8