The 666 mark will be a tattoo

[MatthewG]

Typical Classic deflection, - - refuse to quote Scripture like it’s a game of tag. That’s your childish go-to move every time you're cornered. No chapter, no verse, just sensationalism noise. So predictable. If you can’t back it up with the Bible, you clearly have no Truth in you.

Goodbye—and take your empty opinions with you. You have been placed on ignore.

Good bye

I dont have to.

You got a bible to use... lol... At lest I can admit I dont hardly read the thing on here.

Half the people on here dont they just watch youtube and refuse to discover for themselves.

the problem is they think if they admit that they just made some type of cardinal sin when the sin of unbelief is what hardens the heart.


and they think i should just conform and believe them.

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[Dave Watchman]

That’s your childish go-to move every time you're cornered. No chapter, no verse, just sensationalism noise. So predictable. If you can’t back it up with the Bible, you clearly have no Truth in you.

Goodbye—and take your empty opinions with you. You have been placed on ignore.

Good bye

I dont have to.

You got a bible to use... lol...

Does this mean the threads over?

It looked like a fun thread.

I was still waiting for someone to show what the mark of the beast is.

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[Dave Watchman]

What if....
Mr Beast is the Beast of Revelation....?
What if the mark/coin stamp is not so much a literal mark but instead a spiritual one?

Sounds like John is still deciding, still formulating the possibilities.

How about this — grow up and actually read the Scriptures for yourself? Instead of throwing out random "what if" scenarios like it's a game of fantasy trivia, stick to what the Word actually says about the beast, the mark, the antichrist, etc.

Nice.

Just in case you FORGOT.... If you claim to know God but hate your brother, the truth is not you.

Just saying....

Like He said, you will know them by their fruit. Or if he ask for a fish, will he give him a serpent?

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.​

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[Muna]

Those that refuse are killed:

Matt 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

 

[Dave Watchman]

The head is the mind...it is HOW you think...specifically re God
The hand is what you do....HOW you behave....specifically toward your fellow man

So far I pick this as a good post. The forehead is the frontal lobe, where our decisions are made.

The forehead, our thoughts. The right hand our actions, or our work.

The people who have the mark of the beast, or the number of the his name, can't buy or sell without it. They can't go out and operate in society without having the mark of the beast in their right hand, or on the front of their minds.

Just curious about your interpretation: how does a tattoo come to "create a painful sore" (as it says in Revelation the "mark" will do)?

I pick this post as the best post so far.

This is a really big clue, that can turn into a major piece of the puzzle proving what the mark of the beast is, by eliminating what it is not, when we can pin the 5 months of Revelation 9. You need more than just the Scripture alone. You need newspaper exegesis. When these things are happening, then the Bible can be interpreted through the lens of current events reported in the news. But the most important thing we need are the prophetic time periods in Daniel and Revelation. When we can find the 5 months of Revelation 9, then we know that the men who had already taken the mark of the beast, have already been stung by the scorpion creatures. They were asking for death, for the penalty of sin is death, but death did flee from them.

Now we can do the Art Doyle deal. "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” Then we can know that these things already just happened, but were overlooked by the majority of people.

Even this part:

"that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.​

I'm pretty sure even this has just happened, and had been happening since the late 60's, and pretty much came to it's conclusion now. It's one of those unspeakable things people don't want to hear about. I can pin it to a specific event, on an exact day of the week. Even the agnostics on a news forum were asking: "why is this happening now"? I'm only mentioning this, not to write a reckless, or scary note, but so people aren't worried about the fear of an uncertain future event.

Some people think agents working for the throne of the beast will be driving around with portable guillotine trailers. If all of the Hal Lindsey style end time interpretation of events were to come true, like Newton's worry about predicting the timing of the end times, it might even prevent Christ's coming as a thief. If everyone was lined up waiting to get a chip in the right hand, or to get their head cut off, then everyone would know that we were in one of the Days of the Son of Man. It's not happening like that.

I'm pretty sure it has to be happening now.

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[Dave Watchman]

As far as prophecies I believe that Isaac Newton was closest... And to fully quote the guy...

And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half. -Daniel 12:7

From a folio cataloged as Yahuda MS 7.3g, f. 13v:

"So then the time times & half a time are 42 months or 1260 days or three years & an half, reckoning twelve months to a year & 30 days to a month as was done in the Calendar of the primitive year. And the days of short lived Beasts being put for the years of lived kingdoms, the period of 1260 days, if dated from the complete conquest of the three kings A.C. 800, will end A.C. 2060." - Isaac Newton

As Charlemagne was crowned king on December 25, 800 by Pope Leo the III so the day of Christ's coming may be on Christmas Day, 2060. If the rapture of the saints (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17) occurs seven years before the time of Christ's coming the date of the rapture 12.25 2053. However Isaac Newton notes...

"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." - Isaac Newton

I remember you always post this 2060 deal Rocky. And Abraham Shalom Yahuda was the man. So was John Maynard Keynes. Remember Keynesian economics? Both of those men were together in England biding at auction for Isaac Newton's writings. Abraham Yahuda wanted to bring Newton's materials on religion back to Jerusalem to put in a museum. He did win the ones he was after, but he didn't live to see them make it to Jerusalem as they we're tied up in the courts until 1969. Newton would have known to be looking for 1969. 1969 was rock and roll time. The Spirit in the Sky was here making Secretariat, as the Bad Moon was on the rise. It was a Secret.

Newton's Note on 2060 was a hoax, fake news. He said it right in there: "This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." - Isaac Newton

He wasn't really saying when the time of the end would be, he put that there to throw people off when the time of the end would really be. Newton was worried, especially with it coming from someone of his prominence, that it might even violate Christ coming as a thief in the night. It's not for us to know the times and seasons. And it's still functioning to this very day. Because what Newton wrote in this little blurb, this short publicity note, was a publicity stunt designed to take people's attention away from what he really suspected the timing to be. This 2060 deal disagrees with what he wrote in his Daniel 9 commentary. Newton would have known to be watching for 1969.

So if that timing is correct, it means that a bunch of things, like your Mark of the Beast deal, has to already have just happened, and is happening now. Price action makes for market commentary. Here is where we trade the charts, do not trade a story. There's too many stories out there. Like how the pilot trusts, and flies by his instrumentation, when poor visibility precludes the use of GFR. We see through the glass dimly.

Our technical analysis, our charts and instrumentation as Bible People, are in those prophetic time periods found in Daniel and Revelation. If we can figure out we where are in those time periods, the Antichrist, and the Mark of the Beast, among other things, has to be happening now.

Cool video, spooky video, of where I think we are now.

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[Dave Watchman]

If Paul can be saved then anyone can if they believe

I obviously agree.

Did anyone see post #6? It biblically proves the OP wrong

I did see it. I was going to vote it my favorite post.

If that’s true then you might as well through John 3:16 and any other verses in the bible that promise salvation to anyone who repents out of the bible

But there seems to be a particular twist on salvation as we get into the last days of it, the night comes when no man can work. The Gospel gets preached to all nations, and then the power is given over to the Two Witnesses. God takes over just before the end.

The people alive in the months prior to Christ appearing are in a variant of the plan of salvation. There's going to be three groups.

1) The People who did not worship the beast or it's image, or take his mark, and were killed for their testimony.

2) The Seal of God People.

3) The Mark of the Beast People.

This is a unique generation of people. It's the judgement of the living that needs to be finished prior to Christ's appearing. Because when He appears, we will be like Him.

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[Dave Watchman]

I am the 666

Then Admin should ban you.

May I ask exactly what you mean by this statement @soberxp ? A Christian would never state something like this.
Thanks

I was wondering about this too. Seems like a funny thing to say right out of the blue. It doesn't worry me that much. My understanding of 666 is just that it means the majority. The wide gate. And many will find it. It might be like saying: "I am the 666, I am a sinner. I confess.

Maybe everyone, or the majority gets the mark of the beast, until receiving the Seal of the Living God, and that erases the mark. Come out of her My People. And then we find the narrow gate that leads to life.

666 just means two thirds. It's the number of his name, Satan, Abaddon, Apollyon, which in two languages means destruction. The son of perdition, the son of destruction.

It's the Bibles use of thirds. Like when the great city gets split into three parts, can mean complete destruction. All three thirds are destroyed.

Revelation mentions a "third" being destroyed multiple times.

A third of the earth was burned up,
A third of the trees were burned up,
A third of the sea became blood.
A third of the living creatures in the sea died,
A third of the ships were destroyed.
A third of the rivers and on the springs of water.
A third of the waters became wormwood,
A third of the sun was struck,
A third of the moon,
A third of the stars,
A third of their light might be darkened,
A third of the day might be kept from shining,
A third of the night.
A third of mankind.

But two thirds are spared. There's not a complete destruction.

666 = 2/3's

David kills the Moabites 2 Samuel 8

"David also defeated the Moabites, made them lie down on the ground, and measured them off with a cord. He measured off with two lengths those to be put to death, and with one length those to be spared. So the Moabites became subject to David and brought him tribute.​

Another example is when King David defeated the Moabites. He made them all lay down on the ground. Then he counted off and killed every two out of three people. But one third was spared. Two thirds destroyed, (666). There wasn't a complete destruction, the Moabites continued on as a people contributing to the tax role.

Ezekiel 5 Divine Judgment.

"A third part of you shall die of pestilence and be consumed with famine in your midst;​

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"A third part shall fall by the sword all around you; and​

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"A third part I will scatter to all the winds and will unsheathe the sword after them.​

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"And when I have spent my wrath on them, they will know that I the LORD have spoken in my zeal.​

Another case where two thirds are destroyed (666), but one third is spared.

So 666, 2/3's, seems to be the wide gate people, the number of his name, which means destruction. Where the majority are going to.

.666 as a simple fraction?

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Best Answer: if it is 0.666 then 666/1000 and reduce it.
if it is 0.666.... then 2/3

Those who are perishing.

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[Marty fox]

I obviously agree.

I did see it. I was going to vote it my favorite post.

But there seems to be a particular twist on salvation as we get into the last days of it, the night comes when no man can work. The Gospel gets preached to all nations, and then the power is given over to the Two Witnesses. God takes over just before the end.

The people alive in the months prior to Christ appearing are in a variant of the plan of salvation. There's going to be three groups.

1) The People who did not worship the beast or it's image, or take his mark, and were killed for their testimony.

2) The Seal of God People.

3) The Mark of the Beast People.

This is a unique generation of people. It's the judgement of the living that needs to be finished prior to Christ's appearing. Because when He appears, we will be like Him.

Peaceful Sabbath.

But your view just changed John 3:16 too so it can’t be, this is what I stick to below


The whole of scripture is greater than the sum of its individual passages. You can not comprehend the bible as a whole without comprehending its individual passages and you cannot comprehend its individual passages without comprehending the bible as a whole. The individual passages can never be interpreted in a way as to conflict the whole of scripture

The above method is the best way to interpret scripture especially prophecy

Paul did state a few times that the gospel was preached all over the earth during his days

 

[Dave Watchman]

Brother, things are unraveling as we speak...

Many of the jews believe Trump is their messiah and can be heard discussing his gematria and saying he's the savior of the world, and Trump doesn't deny or correct them. The Jewish Heritage Foundation has already come to Mar-a-Lago to present Trump with a plaque and a crown declaring him the "Prince of Peace" and "king of Jerusalem."

I might vote these as the best posts. How much time? Things seem unravelling. I quit posting about Turnup as the Antichrist. I only do it at one place where nobody goes anymore.

It's like the last verses of Daniel 11 are unravelling as we speak. News from the east and from the north. His health news, and the Epstein files are about to destroy him. Like a trapped animal, he could lash out to destroy many at any time.

Sometimes he's funny. Like when his plane lands in Scotland, he steps on the ground and the first thing the reporters ask is the Epstein files, will you pardon Ghislaine Maxwell?

Or when he has the President of the Philippines sitting there in the Whitehouse and all the reporters want to ask is questions about the Epstein files. And he still can't change the subject to Obama. Lol.

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[Heart2Soul]

It is a tricky question because you can't buy or sell without the mark. The location of the mark on the body reminds me of Deuteronomy 6:8, which is a metaphor for how the commandments should be acted and meditated upon. So it must be more than metaphorical if others can tell rather you have it or not.

Deuteronomy 8 "Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads."

So a physical mark is likely. But who would get a barcode tattoo?

I will keep an eye out on any future subdermal vaccination capsules. Which could be a surreptitious way to administer gene therapy. With a technological component to enforce their adoption by the populace. The gene therapy could introduce angelic DNA, making humans hybrids like the Nephilim who died but still roam the arid places as demons. And God does not forgive the demons and angels, same goes for those who receive the mark.

Any sort of AI integration with our bodies, to facilitate communication with it or through it to points of sale. No thank you.

One report states that "the beast" will be able to put his thoughts in the people. This is possible due to the vaccines that we have been told is necessary as children, and the boosters throughout the years. The vaccines are not anti-bio vaccines to stop the spread of disease. They are anti-conscious vaccines to remove certain levels of conscious logic and reasoning, according to this report. Also the pharmaceutical pills that treat mental illness does the same thing

 

[Dave Watchman]

But your view just changed John 3:16 too so it can’t be, this is what I stick to below

It's the same Gospel message, but at the end of the world the responsibility for it's broadcast is taken from mankind, and transferred to the Two Witnesses. God takes it from there, from that point on.

The whole of scripture is greater than the sum of its individual passages. You can not comprehend the bible as a whole without comprehending its individual passages and you cannot comprehend its individual passages without comprehending the bible as a whole. The individual passages can never be interpreted in a way as to conflict the whole of scripture

But there's still a chronology which occurs in salvific faith.

The above method is the best way to interpret scripture especially prophecy

You're free to believe that. I think there's a better way, a more sure way, to understand apocalyptic prophecy. Then we can know when we are in the prophetic time period associated with a particular prophecy.

Paul did state a few times that the gospel was preached all over the earth during his days

But we have the luxury since the fruition of completed time, to know that it wasn't. The Bible wasn't even translated into all the languages yet.

The Newton count of the heptads had the Gospel of the Kingdom being preached to all nations, and the end of that coming in 2018.

Thanks John.

You can wipe the dust off your sandals Brother.

Then another John showed up with his measuring rod in hand, the Two Witnesses, to measure the inner court.

"And you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.​

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Does this mean the threads over?

Nope. As long as people keep fighting over false doctrines, this thread will keep going—just like all the others. Digging the hole deeper together, one post at a time.

It looked like a fun thread.

I'm curious—what exactly made this thread 'fun' to you? Are you here to seek the Truth, or just looking for entertainment while people argue over doctrine?

I was still waiting for someone to show what the mark of the beast is.

First, what exactly do you believe the Mark of the Beast is that the Lord is referring to? Is it a wordly literal mark, or a spiritual one that signifies being owned by the devil, spiritually? And what do you understand the 'right hand' and 'forehead' to represent?

 

[TribulationSigns]

Matt 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Misapplication of Scripture. Focus on Revelation 13:

Rev 13:15-17
(15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
(16) And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
(17) And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

The beast with two horns like a lamb symbolizes a body of false prophets and false christs who appear to speak for God but in reality speak like a dragon, promoting lies and doctrines of devils.

This beast spiritually pressures everyone in the visible church—especially those not yet sealed by God (see Revelation 9:4-6)—to receive a mark. That mark in the right hand represents those who act according to the beast’s will; the mark in the forehead symbolizes those who think like the beast, adopting satanic values and beliefs.

Once they are marked, they are free to “buy and sell” false doctrine—exchanging and promoting corrupt theology through false teachers, popular preachers, and unbiblical church systems. That is the marketplace described in Revelation 13: it's not about groceries, but about spiritual commerce—the trafficking of lies in the name of Christ.

Only the Elect, sealed by God before Satan was loosened, will stand against this deception. And yes, they will be “killed”—not physically, but silenced. Just like the Two Witnesses in Revelation 11:7-8, once their testimony is finished, the beast “kills” them—meaning their truthful witness is silenced in the public sphere of the Church!

Their bodies lie in the “street,” a symbol of how truth is dead and trampled underfoot, while the professing church celebrates because the truthful testimony torments them for their sins. So they exchange “gifts” of false doctrine. For example, like what I am witnessing today:

• Tolerating and affirming homosexuality in leadership,
• Women in roles God did not assign,
• Divorce and remarriage without biblical grounds,
• Embracing worldly entertainment in the sanctuary—Super Bowl parties, comedy skits, emotionalism, and carnality.
• Getting involved with radical politics
• Love of God by serving others grows cold
• etc. etc.

This is what apostasy and desolation of the church looks like when the beast rules her.

Something to seriously consider. The war isn't just outside the church—it’s inside. The mark isn't merely physical—it's spiritual deception and ownership of Satan, which is much deadlier than any physical mark theories out there. Choose whom you serve.

FYI @Dave Watchman

 

[Marty fox]

It's the same Gospel message, but at the end of the world the responsibility for it's broadcast is taken from mankind, and transferred to the Two Witnesses. God takes it from there, from that point on.

But there's still a chronology which occurs in salvific faith.

You're free to believe that. I think there's a better way, a more sure way, to understand apocalyptic prophecy. Then we can know when we are in the prophetic time period associated with a particular prophecy.

But we have the luxury since the fruition of completed time, to know that it wasn't. The Bible wasn't even translated into all the languages yet.

The Newton count of the heptads had the Gospel of the Kingdom being preached to all nations, and the end of that coming in 2018.

Thanks John.

You can wipe the dust off your sandals Brother.

Then another John showed up with his measuring rod in hand, the Two Witnesses, to measure the inner court.

"And you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.​

Peaceful Sabbath.

It has nothing to do with the bible it’s the message of the gospel that had reached the earth the whole earth in Paul’s day he stated it four times

If you want to know why and when the end of our world will happen look back the genesis and see why God whiped out the world in Noah’s day

 

[TribulationSigns]

666 just means two thirds. It's the number of his name, Satan, Abaddon, Apollyon, which in two languages means destruction. The son of perdition, the son of destruction.

Very good!

It's the Bibles use of thirds. Like when the great city gets split into three parts, can mean complete destruction. All three thirds are destroyed.

Revelation mentions a "third" being destroyed multiple times.

A third of the earth was burned up,
A third of the trees were burned up,
A third of the sea became blood.
A third of the living creatures in the sea died,
A third of the ships were destroyed.
A third of the rivers and on the springs of water.
A third of the waters became wormwood,
A third of the sun was struck,
A third of the moon,
A third of the stars,
A third of their light might be darkened,
A third of the day might be kept from shining,
A third of the night.
A third of mankind.

But two thirds are spared. There's not a complete destruction.

666 = 2/3's

David kills the Moabites 2 Samuel 8

"David also defeated the Moabites, made them lie down on the ground, and measured them off with a cord. He measured off with two lengths those to be put to death, and with one length those to be spared. So the Moabites became subject to David and brought him tribute.​

Another example is when King David defeated the Moabites. He made them all lay down on the ground. Then he counted off and killed every two out of three people. But one third was spared. Two thirds destroyed, (666). There wasn't a complete destruction, the Moabites continued on as a people contributing to the tax role.

Ezekiel 5 Divine Judgment.

"A third part of you shall die of pestilence and be consumed with famine in your midst;​

​

"A third part shall fall by the sword all around you; and​

​

"A third part I will scatter to all the winds and will unsheathe the sword after them.​

​

"And when I have spent my wrath on them, they will know that I the LORD have spoken in my zeal.​

Another case where two thirds are destroyed (666), but one third is spared.

So 666, 2/3's, seems to be the wide gate people, the number of his name, which means destruction. Where the majority are going to.

.666 as a simple fraction?

Answers
Relevance


Best Answer: if it is 0.666 then 666/1000 and reduce it.
if it is 0.666.... then 2/3

Those who are perishing.

Very Good! This is the first time that I have seen someone on this forum who has actually done some homework on the number 666, which I also believe. I will explain more:

God gives no other number with which to count six hundred, sixty-six with. So we immediately discern that we are simply to count that one number. But how do we count six hundred sixty-six alone?. There really is only one way, which is use the Bible as our example and count it the way other numbers are counted in Scripture. We count it as a spiritual number. And since it obviously is not upon all, but only part of the whole are marked deceived of Satan to worship the image, we count it as part of the whole. In other words, we count it as a fraction (part of the whole number). Not surprisingly, it all leads us to the very same conclusion. To answer any objection, in context, counting as a fraction is Biblically justifiable because it is referring to a part of the whole. Or more specifically, the 666 refers to those who are to be cut off from the whole by reason of their being deceived (marked), of the beast. This in relationship to the part that God says will not be marked of the beast (The faithful of God), and whom we are told would be killed because of their faithfulness. So we have two fractions, or two parts. Those who will refuse to worship the beast and so be killed are numbered with God, one part. And those who worship the beast and receive his mark, are numbered with him as his part. So what is the number six hundred, sixty, and six "counted" as a fraction or as part of this whole? It breaks down to two-thirds. And no surprise, this correlates perfectly with God's Word because in the Scriptures God uses the division of 1/3 to symbolize the truly Saved who are brought through the fire and refined of God, and 2/3 as those who are to be cut off from God. And these marked of the beast are those designated to forsake God and be deceived (cut off) of the beast.

An illustration of this spiritual division can be seen in the third part of the shekel that was to be used for the work of the Sanctuary, which illustrates the work of the believer justified in the work of Christ. Or in the prophesy of the coming Messiah, and man is numbered, we see Christ takes only the 'true believers' through the fire to cleanse them (Salvation), and we read that it was numbered 2/3 that were to be cut off. This is six hundred and sixty and six, counted as a fraction of the whole.

Zechariah 13:7-9

• "Awake, O Sword, against My Shepherd, and against the man that is My fellow, saith the Lord of hosts: Smite the Shepherd and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn Mine hand upon the little ones.
• And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, Two Parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third part shall be left therein.
• And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and try them as gold is tried: they shall call on My name, and I will hear them: I will say, it is My people: and they shall say, the Lord is My God."

Two parts therein, or, two parts of the congregation are to be cut off, and one part saved. The Lord our God has assigned the number (fraction) to "count" those whom Christ will bring to Salvation, and the number in His house who will be cut off. A remnant will be saved, and the rest are deceived and cut off. The true believers are numbered as 1/3, and the unsaved who are cut off from God are numbered as 2/3. So here we have GOD'S defining a NUMBER of the whole that represents man being cut off from God. And He (not I) defines it as 2/3. And again, this correlates perfectly to what God said about the number of man who will buy and sell, being the number six hundred and sixty and six (2/3). This number being written in the forehead and hand is an illustration that the spiritual condition of their mind, and the works of the hands, are of this carnality or beast that they serve. Just as in the days of old, it is spiritual idolatry.

Sad that so many people do not understand this and go crazy on looking for physical mark. This will not bring them any closer to the Truth.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Nope. As long as people keep fighting over false doctrines, this thread will keep going—just like all the others. Digging the hole deeper together, one post at a time.

Nice.

I'm curious—what exactly made this thread 'fun' to you? Are you here to seek the Truth, or just looking for entertainment while people argue over doctrine?

You guys interactions. For entertainment while people argue over doctrine.

Reminds me of those guys on Sesame Street.

First, what exactly do you believe the Mark of the Beast is that the Lord is referring to? Is it a wordly literal mark, or a spiritual one that signifies being owned by the devil, spiritually? And what do you understand the 'right hand' and 'forehead' to represent?

It's a spiritual sign of a real and serious thing.

The right hand is our actions, or work.

The forehead is our cerebral cortex, where our decisions are made.

Keep it in the front of your mind.

But what ever it all is, we're in the days of it now.

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[Dave Watchman]

It has nothing to do with the bible it’s the message of the gospel that had reached the earth the whole earth in Paul’s day he stated it four times

But it didn't. It didn't even make it across Europe to England yet.

And it wasn't even translated into all the languages yet.

You keep saying Paul says it was, but it wasn't.

It's didn't reach the ends of the earth until 2018.

I won't let you guys turn me into one of those guys on Sesame Street.

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[Muna]

Misapplication of Scripture. Focus on Revelation 13:

Rev 13:15-17
(15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
(16) And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
(17) And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

The beast with two horns like a lamb symbolizes a body of false prophets and false christs who appear to speak for God but in reality speak like a dragon, promoting lies and doctrines of devils.

This beast spiritually pressures everyone in the visible church—especially those not yet sealed by God (see Revelation 9:4-6)—to receive a mark. That mark in the right hand represents those who act according to the beast’s will; the mark in the forehead symbolizes those who think like the beast, adopting satanic values and beliefs.

Once they are marked, they are free to “buy and sell” false doctrine—exchanging and promoting corrupt theology through false teachers, popular preachers, and unbiblical church systems. That is the marketplace described in Revelation 13: it's not about groceries, but about spiritual commerce—the trafficking of lies in the name of Christ.

Only the Elect, sealed by God before Satan was loosened, will stand against this deception. And yes, they will be “killed”—not physically, but silenced. Just like the Two Witnesses in Revelation 11:7-8, once their testimony is finished, the beast “kills” them—meaning their truthful witness is silenced in the public sphere of the Church!

Their bodies lie in the “street,” a symbol of how truth is dead and trampled underfoot, while the professing church celebrates because the truthful testimony torments them for their sins. So they exchange “gifts” of false doctrine. For example, like what I am witnessing today:

• Tolerating and affirming homosexuality in leadership,
• Women in roles God did not assign,
• Divorce and remarriage without biblical grounds,
• Embracing worldly entertainment in the sanctuary—Super Bowl parties, comedy skits, emotionalism, and carnality.
• Getting involved with radical politics
• Love of God by serving others grows cold
• etc. etc.

This is what apostasy and desolation of the church looks like when the beast rules her.

Something to seriously consider. The war isn't just outside the church—it’s inside. The mark isn't merely physical—it's spiritual deception and ownership of Satan, which is much deadlier than any physical mark theories out there. Choose whom you serve.

FYI @Dave Watchman

I posted about being killed Tribby, get over it.

 

[Marty fox]

But it didn't. It didn't even make it across Europe to England yet.

And it wasn't even translated into all the languages yet.

You keep saying Paul says it was, but it wasn't.

It's didn't reach the ends of the earth until 2018.

I won't let you guys turn me into one of those guys on Sesame Street.

Peaceful Sabbath.

Mt 24:14
14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
This shows that the disciples were asking about the end of the temple sacrificial age as the whole world was preached to before 70AD .
Paul says the gospel was preached to the whole known world in

Romans Ch 1:8
8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world

and
Ch10:17-18
,17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ. 18 But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course they did:
“Their voice has gone out into all the earth,
their words to the ends of the world.”

Paul also mentions it in
Colossians Ch 1:6
6 that has come to you. In the same way, the gospel is bearing fruit and growing throughout the whole world—just as it has been doing among you since the day you heard it and truly understood God’s grace.

and Ch 1:23
23 if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant
.
Acts chapter 2:5
5Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven.

This verse shows that Jews from all over the world heard the gospel in their own tongue and could take it back to their own countries and share the good news.

This shows that it wasn’t the entire world that Jesus was talking about but the whole known world at that time