David in NJ
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Zechariah chapter 14 is quoted by the Apostle Paul and by Jude and Revelation
Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false
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2 Peter 3 has got the truth about when Christ returns in flaming fire.
The earth is burned up
Peter is writing about the coming of Christ a second time, not a third, fourth or any other thing like 1000 rule in the middle of His coming before the end of this world.
We know it is about His coming in the Last Days, as it says such in v4, and v10
1 Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle (in both of which I stir up your pure minds by way of reminder), 2 that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of [a]us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior, 3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and [b]perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward [c]us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.
The earth is burned up
Peter is writing about the coming of Christ a second time, not a third, fourth or any other thing like 1000 rule in the middle of His coming before the end of this world.
We know it is about His coming in the Last Days, as it says such in v4, and v10
1 Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle (in both of which I stir up your pure minds by way of reminder), 2 that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of [a]us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior, 3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and [b]perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward [c]us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
The Day of the Lord
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be [d]burned up. 11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.Be Steadfast
14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.
Ok, you have made the claim, what are the verses then?
Where is the quotation, where they quote from Zechariah 14?
Here are the quotes for the book of Zechariah in the New Testament and nothing is quoted from Chapter 14
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New Testament References to Zechariah
In our last few posts we’ve done a high level overview of Zechariah as well as briefly examined why it is commonly divided by scholars into First Zechariah and Second Zechariah. That being sa…
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David in NJ
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Begin with Revelation chapter 19
Compare that with Zech ch14 and ask yourself = Are these two in AGREEMENT concerning His Second Coming?
KEY = the OT Prophecies do not need to be 'word-for-word' exact when they are repeated in the NT
God alone interprets the OT prophecies in the LIGHT of CHRIST and His Kingdom and Purposes
God's interpretaion is the Gospel, the Apostles writings and Revelation
About Zechariah 14, a weakness is the premills saying their is ongoing evil in the millennial reign.
www.kimriddlebarger.com
In the greater light of the New Testament revelation, it becomes clear that Zechariah is looking ahead to the messianic mission of Jesus and his two advents. Our premillennial friends are correct when they assert that the passage refers to a future millennial kingdom and temple sacrifices when viewed from Zechariah’s pre-messianic place in the redemptive historical time line. But they err when they assign this to a future semi-consummated earthly millennial kingdom in which evil (sinful human conduct) remains after Jesus returns in judgment.
John understands the one-thousand years of Revelation 20 to refer to Christ’s kingdom and the entirety inter-advental period, not to an earthly, national kingdom which Jesus supposedly establishes after his return. What premillennarians miss then, is that the so-called millennial age is a present reality, characterized by the presence of evil, including a struggle between the people of God and the City of Man (Babylon the Great), all the while facing the deceit of Satan (heresy and false doctrine). The prophets of Israel foresaw Jesus is the true temple from whom the living water flows. His sacrifice for sin is said to be once for all (Romans 6:10; 1 Peter 3:18; Hebrews 9:28, 10:10).
Any attempt to understand a millennial kingdom with Christ physically ruling from an earthly Jerusalem, yet co-existing with evil, with animals being sacrificed (even as a memorial) in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem, must overlook the fact that the New Testament reinterprets all of these things (including Zechariah’s prophetic oracle in chapter 14 of his prophecy) as a present reality, the inter-advental period, with the types and shadows of the prophets giving way to the fulfillment and reality that is Jesus Christ.
Zechariah 14 does not support premillennialism, nor does it allow for the presence of evil after our Lord’s return. To interpret Zechariah’s prophecy in such light, seriously detracts from the reality and glory of Christ’s saving work in his messianic mission.
Evil in the Millennial Age? An Exposition of Zechariah 14 — The Riddleblog
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In the greater light of the New Testament revelation, it becomes clear that Zechariah is looking ahead to the messianic mission of Jesus and his two advents. Our premillennial friends are correct when they assert that the passage refers to a future millennial kingdom and temple sacrifices when viewed from Zechariah’s pre-messianic place in the redemptive historical time line. But they err when they assign this to a future semi-consummated earthly millennial kingdom in which evil (sinful human conduct) remains after Jesus returns in judgment.
John understands the one-thousand years of Revelation 20 to refer to Christ’s kingdom and the entirety inter-advental period, not to an earthly, national kingdom which Jesus supposedly establishes after his return. What premillennarians miss then, is that the so-called millennial age is a present reality, characterized by the presence of evil, including a struggle between the people of God and the City of Man (Babylon the Great), all the while facing the deceit of Satan (heresy and false doctrine). The prophets of Israel foresaw Jesus is the true temple from whom the living water flows. His sacrifice for sin is said to be once for all (Romans 6:10; 1 Peter 3:18; Hebrews 9:28, 10:10).
Any attempt to understand a millennial kingdom with Christ physically ruling from an earthly Jerusalem, yet co-existing with evil, with animals being sacrificed (even as a memorial) in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem, must overlook the fact that the New Testament reinterprets all of these things (including Zechariah’s prophetic oracle in chapter 14 of his prophecy) as a present reality, the inter-advental period, with the types and shadows of the prophets giving way to the fulfillment and reality that is Jesus Christ.
Zechariah 14 does not support premillennialism, nor does it allow for the presence of evil after our Lord’s return. To interpret Zechariah’s prophecy in such light, seriously detracts from the reality and glory of Christ’s saving work in his messianic mission.
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Christ Himself, in His return, is the consuming fire. Now, in His return, He's not going to look like this...
<smile> But He will be coming in judgment, which the fire is symbolic of. The earth will not literally be burned up but refined by this fire, made new (not newly made) <smile>
Grace and peace to all.
Peter does say the earth will be burned up and dissolved. People have differing thoughts on that.
2 Peter 3:10 - Bible Gateway
KJ21
But the Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat. The earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
ASV
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
AMP
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will vanish with a [mighty and thunderous] roar, and the [material] elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and the works that are on it will be burned up.
AMPC
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will vanish (pass away) with a thunderous crash, and the [material] elements [of the universe] will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.
BRG
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
CSB
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief; on that day the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, the elements will burn and be dissolved, and the earth and the works on it will be disclosed.
CSBA
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief; on that day the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, the elements will burn and be dissolved, and the earth and the works on it will be disclosed.
CEB
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. On that day the heavens will pass away with a dreadful noise, the elements will be consumed by fire, and the earth and all the works done on it will be exposed.
CJB
However, the Day of the Lord will come “like a thief.” On that Day the heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will melt and disintegrate, and the earth and everything in it will be burned up.
CEV
The day of the Lord's return will surprise us like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a loud noise, and the heat will melt the whole universe. Then the earth and everything on it will be seen for what they are.
DARBY
But the day of [the] Lord will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a rushing noise, and [the] elements, burning with heat, shall be dissolved, and [the] earth and the works in it shall be burnt up.
DLNT
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief— during which the heavens will pass-away with-a-roar, and the elements will be destroyed while burning, and the earth and the works in it will be found.
DRA
But the day of the Lord shall come as a thief, in which the heavens shall pass away with great violence, and the elements shall be melted with heat, and the earth and the works which are in it, shall be burnt up.
ERV
But the day when the Lord comes again will surprise everyone like the coming of a thief. The sky will disappear with a loud noise. Everything in the sky will be destroyed with fire. And the earth and everything in it will be burned up.
EASY
The great day of the Lord will suddenly happen. That will surprise people, like when someone comes to rob them. There will be a very loud noise in the sky. The whole sky will go away. Fire will burn the whole universe and it will destroy everything. The earth and everything that people have made will then become clear.
EHV
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. On that day the heavens will pass away with a roar, the elements will be dissolved as they burn with great heat, and the earth and what was done on it will be burned up.
ESV
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.
ESVUK
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.
EXB
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief [C with surprise and danger]. The ·skies [heavens] will ·disappear [pass away; Matt. 5:18; 24:35; Mark 13:31; Luke 16:17; 21:33] with a loud noise. ·Everything in them [L The elements; C either everything in the cosmos or specifically the heavenly bodies] will be ·destroyed [or dissolved] by ·fire [heat; burning], and the earth and ·everything in it [or all the deeds done on it] will be exposed.
Earth Dissolved
KJ21
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy manner of living and godliness,
ASV
Seeing that these things are thus all to be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy living and godliness,
AMP
Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be [in the meantime] in holy behavior [that is, in a pattern of daily life that sets you apart as a believer] and in godliness [displaying profound reverence toward our awesome God],
AMPC
Since all these things are thus in the process of being dissolved, what kind of person ought [each of] you to be [in the meanwhile] in consecrated and holy behavior and devout and godly qualities,
BRG
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
CSB
Since all these things are to be dissolved in this way, it is clear what sort of people you should be in holy conduct and godliness
CSBA
Since all these things are to be dissolved in this way, it is clear what sort of people you should be in holy conduct and godliness
CEB
Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be? You must live holy and godly lives,
CJB
Since everything is going to be destroyed like this, what kind of people should you be? You should lead holy and godly lives,
CEV
Everything will be destroyed. So you should serve and honor God by the way you live.
DARBY
All these things then being to be dissolved, what ought ye to be in holy conversation and godliness,
DLNT
All these things thus being destroyed, what-kind-of people ought you to be in holy behaviors and acts of godliness,
DRA
Seeing then that all these things are to be dissolved, what manner of people ought you to be in holy conversation and godliness?
ERV
Everything will be destroyed in this way. So what kind of people should you be? Your lives should be holy and devoted to God.
EASY
Certainly, God will destroy everything in this way one day. So think about how you should live now. You should be the kind of people that God is happy about. You should show that you belong to God.
EHV
Therefore, since all these things will be destroyed, what kind of people ought you to be, living in holiness and godliness,
ESV
Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of people ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness,
ESVUK
Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of people ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness,
EXB
In that way everything will be ·destroyed [or dissolved]. So what kind of people should you be? You should live holy lives and ·serve God [be godly/pious],
KJ21
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy manner of living and godliness,
ASV
Seeing that these things are thus all to be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy living and godliness,
AMP
Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be [in the meantime] in holy behavior [that is, in a pattern of daily life that sets you apart as a believer] and in godliness [displaying profound reverence toward our awesome God],
AMPC
Since all these things are thus in the process of being dissolved, what kind of person ought [each of] you to be [in the meanwhile] in consecrated and holy behavior and devout and godly qualities,
BRG
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
CSB
Since all these things are to be dissolved in this way, it is clear what sort of people you should be in holy conduct and godliness
CSBA
Since all these things are to be dissolved in this way, it is clear what sort of people you should be in holy conduct and godliness
CEB
Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be? You must live holy and godly lives,
CJB
Since everything is going to be destroyed like this, what kind of people should you be? You should lead holy and godly lives,
CEV
Everything will be destroyed. So you should serve and honor God by the way you live.
DARBY
All these things then being to be dissolved, what ought ye to be in holy conversation and godliness,
DLNT
All these things thus being destroyed, what-kind-of people ought you to be in holy behaviors and acts of godliness,
DRA
Seeing then that all these things are to be dissolved, what manner of people ought you to be in holy conversation and godliness?
ERV
Everything will be destroyed in this way. So what kind of people should you be? Your lives should be holy and devoted to God.
EASY
Certainly, God will destroy everything in this way one day. So think about how you should live now. You should be the kind of people that God is happy about. You should show that you belong to God.
EHV
Therefore, since all these things will be destroyed, what kind of people ought you to be, living in holiness and godliness,
ESV
Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of people ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness,
ESVUK
Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of people ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness,
EXB
In that way everything will be ·destroyed [or dissolved]. So what kind of people should you be? You should live holy lives and ·serve God [be godly/pious],
Pretty good symbolism there in concept.Christ Himself, in His return, is the consuming fire. Now, in His return, He's not going to look like this...
<smile> But He will be coming in judgment, which the fire is symbolic of. The earth will not literally be burned up but refined by this fire, made new (not newly made) <smile>
Grace and peace to all.
He does return in Flaming Fire
2 Thess 1
6 since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with [c]tribulation those who trouble you, 7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who [d]believe, because our testimony among you was believed.
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God tells Moses this, and it may be that when Jesus comes again, He will be revealed in His true self to the world, and that is why he is a consuming fire to the wicked. AND they are flesh, and not spiritually alive.
At His return we shall all be changed, cause flesh and blood cannot be in such a holy Prescence of God, it perishes.
Exodus 33:20
But He said, “You cannot see My face; for no man shall see Me, and live.”
And
Exodus 24:17
The sight of the glory of the Lord was like a consuming fire on the top of the mountain in the eyes of the children of Israel.
Deuteronomy 4:24
For the Lord your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.
Hebrews 12:29
For our God is a consuming fire.
Yes, but can something being burned up and dissolved mean something more... figurative... in the sense of absolute cleansing and refining/renewing... than merely taking that at, well, wooden face value? I say yes.
They surely do. <smile>
Yes, He will be coming in judgement.
Grace and peace to you.
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David in NJ
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Ephesians 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, 23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Jesus reigns at the right hand of the Father in heaven "Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named" with "all things under his feet" while being "the head over all things to the church", but He doesn't have a throne in heaven?
LOL! How can He reign with "all things under his feet" at the right hand of the Father in heaven without being the King on His throne?
Matthew 19:28 is not saying that He will not have been reigning in heaven before He comes and the regeneration occurs. That verse is talking about when He will sit in the throne of His glory that He has already been sitting on for a long time to judge all people, as portrayed in Matthew 25:31-46.
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Those who have the mark of the beast are those who worship the beast and that is all whose names are not written in the book of life. So, what unbelievers does that leave to populate the earth after Jesus comes and destroys all those with the mark of the beast?
Revelation 13:8 All who live on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written since the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slaughtered.
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Do you believe that Jesus currently reigns at the right hand of the Father "Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named" with "all things under his feet" while being "the head over all things to the church", as Paul taught?
Ephesians 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, 23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Matthew 19
28 So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother [h]or wife or children or [i]lands, for My name’s sake, shall receive a hundredfold, and inherit eternal life. 30 But many who are first will be last, and the last first.
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v28, the setting occurs at His return and our resurrection on the New earth and New heavens, not this first earth and first heavens.
Judging Israel implies they will rule and be delegated decision makers over the saved. God still has an orderly arrangement of hierarchy among the people in His kingdom.
v29, is for today before the resurrection, they will receive those things in this life, and in the end, inherit eternal life.
v28 is what Peter in Acts 3 describes as the restoration of all things, and what Revelation 21 describes as God making all things new again.
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Acts 3
19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, 20 and that He may send [a]Jesus Christ, who was [b]preached to you before, 21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since [c]the world began.
Rev 21
Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, [a]John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”
5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said [b]to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”
6 And He said to me, “It[c] is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End.
28 So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother [h]or wife or children or [i]lands, for My name’s sake, shall receive a hundredfold, and inherit eternal life. 30 But many who are first will be last, and the last first.
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v28, the setting occurs at His return and our resurrection on the New earth and New heavens, not this first earth and first heavens.
Judging Israel implies they will rule and be delegated decision makers over the saved. God still has an orderly arrangement of hierarchy among the people in His kingdom.
v29, is for today before the resurrection, they will receive those things in this life, and in the end, inherit eternal life.
v28 is what Peter in Acts 3 describes as the restoration of all things, and what Revelation 21 describes as God making all things new again.
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Acts 3
19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, 20 and that He may send [a]Jesus Christ, who was [b]preached to you before, 21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since [c]the world began.
Rev 21
Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, [a]John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”
5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said [b]to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”
6 And He said to me, “It[c] is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End.
The Glory of the New Jerusalem
22 But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23 The city had no need of the sun or of the moon to shine [l]in it, for the [m]glory of God illuminated it. The Lamb is its light.24 And the nations [n]of those who are saved shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor [o]into it.
25 Its gates shall not be shut at all by day (there shall be no night there). 26 And they shall bring the glory and the honor of the nations into [p]it. 27 But there shall by no means enter it anything [q]that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.
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Note v24, there is still rulership and an order among the people here referring to these 'kings of the earth', who are kings on the NEW earth.
And some of them will be the Apostles as Jesus told them who would be judges among the people.
Matt 19:30 But many who are first will be last, and the last first. As you can read heaven has rewards.
There will be NO EVIL things left behind to rebel and cause trouble when Christ returns.
No evil hearts of unbelief remain.
The problem of evil remaining on the earth with the pre mill POV is a major issue and against what scripture teaches.
Acts 2
34 “For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself:
‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
35 Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’
36 “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”
37 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Men and brethren, what shall we do?”
38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the [k]remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’
Acts 3
16 And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
17 “Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. 19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, 20 and that He may send [c]Jesus Christ, who was [d]preached to you before, 21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since [e]the world began. 22 For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. 23 And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.
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Jesus sits at the right Hand of the Father until all His enemies are under His feet, eliminated, that includes death. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. God destroys all His enemies.
After death is destroyed in the Lake of Fire, God gives us the New Earth and New Heavens.
In that New Jerusalem that descends from the New heaven onto the New Earth, Christ will sit on the throne of His glory and all things will be truly under His feet as in we will see it. That is the regeneration-restoration of the earth and the heaven.
But He will not be leaving heaven at the right hand of the Father until then, until it is all completed.
Then we have this, it is DONE!, End game, it is over. Everything is fulfilled that God promised.
Rev 21
Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, [a]John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”
5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said [b]to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”
6 And He said to me, “It[c] is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End.
34 “For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself:
‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
35 Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’
36 “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”
37 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Men and brethren, what shall we do?”
38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the [k]remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’
Acts 3
16 And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
17 “Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. 19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, 20 and that He may send [c]Jesus Christ, who was [d]preached to you before, 21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since [e]the world began. 22 For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. 23 And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
Jesus sits at the right Hand of the Father until all His enemies are under His feet, eliminated, that includes death. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. God destroys all His enemies.
After death is destroyed in the Lake of Fire, God gives us the New Earth and New Heavens.
In that New Jerusalem that descends from the New heaven onto the New Earth, Christ will sit on the throne of His glory and all things will be truly under His feet as in we will see it. That is the regeneration-restoration of the earth and the heaven.
But He will not be leaving heaven at the right hand of the Father until then, until it is all completed.
Then we have this, it is DONE!, End game, it is over. Everything is fulfilled that God promised.
Rev 21
Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, [a]John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”
5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said [b]to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”
6 And He said to me, “It[c] is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End.
There is not rebuttal to that. Who can survive?Christ Himself, in His return, is the consuming fire. Now, in His return, He's not going to look like this...
<smile> But He will be coming in judgment, which the fire is symbolic of. The earth will not literally be burned up but refined by this fire, made new (not newly made) <smile>
Grace and peace to all.
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