No Escape : From Hell

[Jack]

Please testify against yourself about what you think you know and the JW's don't

Is English you second Language? Try again.

 

[Deleted member 26788]

Is English you second Language? Try again.

Please testify against yourself about what you think you know and the JW's don't

 

[Jack]

Please testify against yourself about what you think you know and the JW's don't

I don't know how to testify against myself. I just know Scripture. Jesus is God and Hell Fire is FOREVER and EVER! Jesus said so.

 

[Taken]

Now, if a person goes to Hell.....

Keeping factual…

Persons do not go to hell.
A person is a living soul in a living body.
Dead body’s are/ buried/ cremated.
Living souls depart dead bodies…
And Are:
Escorted to Heaven…
Or
Sent to Hell.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Jack]

Keeping factual…

Persons do not go to hell.

Mark 9:43
43 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed, rather than having two hands, to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched-- A person is a living soul in a living body.

Dead body’s are/ buried/ cremated.
Living souls depart dead bodies…
And Are:
Escorted to Heaven…
Or
Sent to Hell.

Glory to God,
Taken

Luke 16:22-28 The rich man died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' 25 But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'27 Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.'

 

[Deleted member 26788]

I don't know how to testify against myself. I just know Scripture. Jesus is God and Hell Fire is FOREVER and EVER! Jesus said so.

well there ya go, first of all Jesus is the son of God !
the bible says that many times .ya got that one wrong .then ya say there is hell fire indicating every one gets hell fire . and simply not true either.
sure people have died in fire ,its a horrible way to be killed .but that was not related to hell .

 

[Jack]

well there ya go, first of all Jesus is the son of God !

True indeed. And "equal with God".

John 5:18
18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.

the bible says that many times .ya got that one wrong .

John 5:18
18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.

then ya say there is hell fire indicating every one gets hell fire .

I never implied any such thing. Do you know what Jesus said about "ALL LIARS"? I doubt you even know. I'll fill you in: "All LIARS will have their part in the Lake of Fire"!

and simply not true either.
sure people have died in fire ,its a horrible way to be killed .but that was not related to hell .

The rich man DIED and was very much ALIVE crying in the Fire.

You sure sound JW.

 

[Taken]

Mark 9:43
43 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed, rather than having two hands, to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched-- A person is a living soul in a living body.

Luke 16:22-28 The rich man died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' 25 But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'27 Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.'

I believe as I said…
That is Waiting for Judgement for the saved and unsaved souls.

All stand in Judgement…

…the saved living souls return to their risen renewed body’s on Earth and bow / worship their God.

… the unsaved living souls in hell return to their unchanged body’s risen from their graves to hell unchanged…see their Judge, believe, bow / worship and are judged Damned…
Their soul leaves their body… thus no life in their body.
Gods Breath (a souls Life) Leaves that soul, returns to God…
Thus … the body and soul is LIFELESS, and destroyed (becomes burned up ash IN Hell, Forgotten, Remembered no more.

At no time Is a Living Body, it’s Life Blood with its Living Soul ( Gods Breath) … alive in its own life, in Hell.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Jack]

I believe as I said…
That is Waiting for Judgement for the saved and unsaved souls.

All stand in Judgement…

…the saved living souls return to their risen renewed body’s on Earth and bow / worship their God.

… the unsaved living souls in hell return to their unchanged body’s risen from their graves to hell unchanged…see their Judge, believe, bow / worship and are judged Damned…
Their soul leaves their body… thus no life in their body.
Gods Breath (a souls Life) Leaves that soul, returns to God…
Thus … the body and soul is LIFELESS, and destroyed (becomes burned up ash IN Hell, Forgotten, Remembered no more.

At no time Is a Living Body, it’s Life Blood with its Living Soul ( Gods Breath) … alive in its own life, in Hell.

Glory to God,
Taken

Do know how many times Jesus warned us of the EVERLASTING fire? He didn't make up horror stories.

 

[Behold]

Keeping factual…

Lets keep it factual.
The "person" is the spirit in the body....So that is always what i teach.
The Body is not the person.
The BODY contains the person.
When a person is born again, then the CHRISTIAN is the "born again Spirit" as the body is "dead because of sin", and the mind is not born again......and that is why Paul teaches that the mind has to be "renewed".

So, when a person goes to Hell, its not talking about their body, as their body is in the grave, or its cremated.....in most cases.

 

[Deleted member 26788]

True indeed. And "equal with God".

Jesus answers to his God. worships his God. he in not equal to his God

 

[Deleted member 26788]

The rich man DIED and was very much ALIVE crying in the Fire.

you are speaking of a parable... its not a factual event

 

[Jack]

you are speaking of a parable... its not a factual event

Parables don't use literal Biblical people.

JW doctrine: The Bible never means what it says. It means what we say!

 

[Deleted member 26788]

Parables don't use literal Biblical people.

JW doctrine: The Bible never means what it says. It means what we say!

well.....apparently it does . sorry it does not abide by your rules .

 

[Jack]

well.....apparently it does . sorry it does not abide by your rules .

Well then show us a parable that uses literal people! The rich man DIED and was burning ALIVE. That is totally taught by Jesus in the NT! Do you even know what Jesus said about THE FIRE? He mentioned it several times.

 

[Deleted member 26788]

Well then show us a parable that uses literal people! The rich man DIED and was burning ALIVE. That is totally taught by Jesus in the NT! Do you even know what Jesus said about THE FIRE? He mentioned it several times.

please read at your leisure

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1954125?q=Parables&p=doc

 

[Jack]

please read at your leisure

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1954125?q=Parables&p=doc

If I wanted to read Bible attacks I'd be chatting with stevie.

 

[denise]

Reader,

Salvation is based on :

God's Grace
Christ's Sacrifice
Faith

Take any of those away, and you have no Salvation.
Add to any of those and you have denied The Cross.

Now, if a person goes to Hell.....its because they died in their sin, and that becomes in Eternity, = the unpardonable sin, because there is no forgiveness found for you if you have died in your sins.......unforgiven.
And the way you die in your sins, is to never be forgiven, which means you died a Christ rejector, never born again.
You have committed the Unpardonable sin and died.
And if you read Heb 10:26, you read where Jewish Christ rejectors are committing the unpardonable sin of rejecting theirr Savior, their Messiah.......Jesus The Lord.

So, THAT PERSON... Jew or Gentile, if they die today or tomorrow or yesterday, is now in Hell.

And what are they doing, Reader.?
They are trying to get out......... And how are they trying to get out of Hell?
They are telling God.....>"OH GOD< i DO BELIEVE.. OH GOD....I DO TRUST IN CHRIST">.... and God ignores them., forever.
FOREVER.
Why?
Because once you are in HELL, you SEE Hell,.... and you KNOW you are in it. .....So that is PROOF that God, and Hell and JESUS are all REAL.
And now you KNOW IT because you SEE IT....and that is not FAITH........That is "seeing is believing" and God requires FAITH in what you can't SEE to save you.......And that is why you have to TRUST in CHRIST before you DIE....as this way, you are believing in what you can't SEE, and that is Genuine FAITH that God accepts.

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If you are reading this and you are not a Christian.....Then Ive Good News for you. You dont have to go to Hell, and God is offering you Heaven instead, right now.
Will you take it ???
Will you accept God's offer of Heaven as your eternity, instead of Hell?
God has made it so simple and so easy...... to go to Heaven. All you have to do is give God your faith in Christ.
Now, be honest with yourself. Haven't you sinned? And dont you know that you need to be forgiven?
Well, Jesus died on THe Cross for YOU... so that you can be forgiven all your sin........and God only asks of you that you be honest about your sin..., and come to Jesus and trust in Him and God will forgive you, and God will make Heaven your eternal home this very day.

Will you come?
Will you take Jesus by faith as your Savior? Will you open your heart to Jesus?
Do it now.......Do it today and God will save you and forgive you and bring you into His LOVE and Grace and Heaven will become your eternal Home.

Dont wait.

very true

 

[Deleted member 26788]

If I wanted to read Bible attacks I'd be chatting with stevie.

right ,dont you dare read it. otheres can but not you

 

[Behold]

Jesus answers to his God. worships his God. he in not equal to his God

Jesus is "God manifested in The Flesh".

So, we believe that "God" created the world........right?

Now read John 1:10, that says the Jesus created the world.
Why does it say that Jesus created the world?
Its because He's God manifested in the flesh.

Then read Colossians 1:16, that says that Jesus created it all, everything....both in heaven and on earth.