Jesus is the Son of his God

[ProverbsInPink]

In comparison

Psalm 110:1 [[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD (Jehovah) said unto my Lord ('adown), Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Psalm 110:5 The Lord ('Adonay) at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Who do you think was that other one that will be received is?

 

[Muna]

Supposedly, Akiba knew who Jesus was, and rightfully it is a crock. After the second coming, and post temple, Bar Kochba was confused with Jesus. But a witness about the original LXX is not worth ignoring. Even when talking about the tower of Babel, God says, "Let me..."

It is not to think Jesus is not God. The problem was that the Arians/Origenists turned the raising of the dead into a farce.

When the LORD says, LET US go down (In Genesis 5-8) how is that supposedly worded in it? Does it say, curious

Because the LORD appeared to Abraham as three men here

Gen 18:1 And the LORD (JEHOVAH 3068) appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;

Gen 18:2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,

And called JEHOVAH 'adown

Gen 18:3 And said, My Lord ( 'adown H113), if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:

Then up further...

Gen 18:20 And the LORD (JEHOVAH 3068) said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;

Gen 18:21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.

And then here we see

Gen 18:22 And the men (which are two) turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD (JEHOVAH 3068).

But then here (after the two men are removed) Abraham adresses the LORD (JEHOVAH) as Lord 'Adonay

Gen 18:27 And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord ( 'Adonay H 136), which am but dust and ashes:

The men turning from where Abraham was (where it says JEHOVAH remained) would be two men

But when the two men arrived at Sodom, and Lot adresses them as 'adown there also

Gen 19:2 And he (Lot) said, Behold now, my lords ( 'adown H113), turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

And here in Moses it says,

Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

That is interesting to me

Which ofcourse (as pertaining to Exodus 6:3) would be referring to these, even as the one prior to the above.

Gen 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Gen.28
[3] And God Almighty bless thee, and make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, that thou mayest be a multitude of people;

Gen.35
[11] And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;

Gen.48
[3] And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me,

Gen.49
[25] Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:

Any thoughts or corrections on the switch in how that adress between the the pictures there? Its been awhile since I looked at this again.

 

[MonoBiblical]

When the LORD says, LET US go down (In Genesis 5-8) how is that supposedly worded in it? Does it say, curious

Instead of: “Come, let us go down, and there confound their language” (Genesis 11:7), which indicates multiple authorities, they wrote in the singular: Come, let me go down, and there confound their language.

 

[Muna]

Who do you think was that other one that will be received is?

Couldn't really tell you, specifically who this person might be?

 

[Muna]

Instead of: “Come, let us go down, and there confound their language” (Genesis 11:7), which indicates multiple authorities, they wrote in the singular: Come, let me go down, and there confound their language.

And how about with Abraham in that picture?

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Couldn't really tell you, specifically who this person might be?

I think it is referring to Paul.

 

[MonoBiblical]

And how about with Abraham in that picture?

The talmud doesn't quote the entire LXX. Try to find if it is there.

 

[Matthias]

@Truly have you figured out yet why @David in NJ can’t see that it is the Father speaking to the Son in Psalm 110:1?

 

[Muna]

I think it is referring to Paul.

I know you do

 

[ProverbsInPink]

I know you do

Then why ask?

 

[Muna]

@Truly have you figured out yet why @David in NJ can’t see that it is the Father speaking to the Son in Psalm 110:1?

He might think I reject the scriptures he posts or something, not sure. Or that I might be rejecting the divinity of Jesus Christ because I see the LORD saying to (Jesus) MY Lord sit at my righthand (after his resurrection) as rejecting that former place, rather than it acknowledging the short work done in his days in the flesh and returning to that place (beside, God His Father). I hate using my own words, I realize there is a problem but can't put my finger on it.

 

[Muna]

Then why ask?

Post # 741 you quoted me

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Post # 741 you quoted me

Um,OK.

 

[Muna]

Um,OK.

You quoted me and asked,

Who do you think was that other one that will be received is?

I replied,

Couldn't really tell you, specifically who this person might be?

You replied

I think it is referring to Paul.

I replied,

I know you do

You replied

Then why ask?

Which is why I respondes,

you quoted me

Then reply,

Um,OK.

Me,

What a strange response.

 

[Matthias]

He might think I reject the scriptures he posts or something, not sure. Or that I might be rejecting the divinity of Jesus Christ because I see the LORD saying to (Jesus) MY Lord sit at my righthand (after his resurrection) as rejecting that former place, rather than it acknowledging the short work done in his days in the flesh and returning to that place (beside, God His Father). I hate using my own words, I realize there is a problem but can't put my finger on it.

He doesn’t understand basic Hebrew grammar but he has one important fact correct, and that simple fact is what is keeping him from seeing the Son as the “my lord” whom Yahweh is speaking to in Psalm 110:1. It is the only thing that he and I were able to agree on.

 

[Muna]

He doesn’t understand basic Hebrew grammar but he has one important fact correct, and that simple fact is what is keeping him from seeing the Son as the “my lord” whom Yahweh is speaking to in Psalm 110:1. It is the only thing that he and I were able to agree on.

It seems like that could be it.

I haven't anything more to add to the thread than what I have already added concerning how I might see things, so I will leave off of this thread before it goes to hell (as is typical at some tipping point)

No use with the endless back and forths, only God can open eyes.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

You quoted me and asked,

Who do you think was that other one that will be received is?

I replied,

Couldn't really tell you, specifically who this person might be?

You replied

I think it is referring to Paul.

I replied,

I know you do

You replied

Then why ask?

Which is why I respondes,

you quoted me

Then reply,

Um,OK.

Me,

What a strange response.

Yes. But not on my part.

 

[Muna]

I think it is referring to Paul.

I have returned for this, having thought about what you posted here

Jesus speaking to the Jews here

John 5:16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.

And still speaking to the Jews in verse 43 Jesus says to them here

John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

You believe that is Paul

However, I cannot see how its speaking of Paul since they wanted to kill Paul as shown here

Acts 23:12 And when it was day, certain of the Jews banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul.

As testified here

Acts 23:27 This man was taken of the Jews, and should have been killed of them: then came I with an army, and rescued him, having understood that he was a Roman.

Still speaking of Paul

Acts 24:5 For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes

I don't see how that could even work, that Jesus would be prophesying that the Jews would receive Paul coming in his own name, all the while showing us how the Jews wanted to kill Paul.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

I have returned for this, having thought about what you posted here

Jesus speaking to the Jews here

John 5:16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.

And still speaking to the Jews in verse 43 Jesus says to them here

John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

You believe that is Paul

However, I cannot see how its speaking of Paul since they wanted to kill Paul as shown here

Acts 23:12 And when it was day, certain of the Jews banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul.

As testified here

Acts 23:27 This man was taken of the Jews, and should have been killed of them: then came I with an army, and rescued him, having understood that he was a Roman.

Still speaking of Paul

Acts 24:5 For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes

I don't see how that could even work, that Jesus would be prophesying that the Jews would receive Paul coming in his own name, all the while showing us how the Jews wanted to kill Paul.

You went to a lot of trouble when that has nothing to do with what I said about that dimple verse.

 

[Muna]

You went to a lot of trouble when that has nothing to do with what I said about that dimple verse.

You asked me

Who do you think was that other one that will be received is?

I replied,

Couldn't really tell you, specifically who this person might be?

You replied

I think it is referring to Paul.

Me,

This time I answered why I did not think it was Paul, Jesus was speaking to the Jews and they wanted to kill Paul