The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

[Spiritual Israelite]

That coming destruction isn't a direct attack from God upon the earth. Let me explain.
It is because of this...

“And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. ”
Exodus 33:20 KJV

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Unless of course there is a dramatic change in the person beholding the face of God, hence...

“3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: 4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. ”
Revelation 22:3-4 KJV

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Otherwise, at the second coming, we have this...

“16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? ”
Revelation 6:16-17 KJV

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There is something inherent in man's nature that when beholding the true beauty, innocence, holiness and glory of God's love, it scrambles the mind and they are destroyed mentally and spiritually. They implode from guilt, and the sudden burden and realisation of all the sin and evil they have committed throughout their lives. I can't remember them right now, but there are scriptures that describe this explicitly. The brain or mind implosion. There are limited examples of this in. OT history, albeit seasoned by grace.

“Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, (even obscured by smoke) the LORD of hosts. ”
Isaiah 6:5 KJV

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“5 Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz: 6 His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude. 7 And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves. 8 Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength. ”
Daniel 10:5-8 KJV

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“The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings? ”
Isaiah 33:14 KJV

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“9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. 10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened. ”
Daniel 7:9-10 KJV

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There are nuances to the destruction of people at the second coming that aren't apparent at first perusal of end time prophecy.

Yet at the end of the 1000 years, those destroyed by the glory and appearing of Jesus at His second coming are resurrected, and exposed as rebels by their reaction to the presence of the holy city and the conclusion they draw in rightly thinking their only chance of survival of to surround it and attack, and give Satan the throne. That, when there is absolutely no further doubt as to their guilt and satanic mindset, brings God to that point of decision making where there is left to Him no choice. It's God's act, His strange act, that is outside everything He hoped for and stood for, that He is finally compelled to bring fire down from heaven and destroy not only the sinners outside the gates, but everything on the planet they are irrevocably attached to that they refused to give up.

“9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. ”
Revelation 20:9-11 KJV

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And there was found no place for them. They are left to bear the burden of their rebellion alone, defenceless, and naked.

When the whole earth is thus cleansed, to its original state prior to creation, without form and void, then it is prepared to be recreated, and the meek shall inherit it.

I don't buy any of that at all. You are making something simple into something complicated because of the false SDA doctrine that you have decided to believe in. In 2 Peter 3:6-7, Peter compares the future fiery destruction of the heavens and the earth to the destruction that occurred with the flood in Noah's day. It's a clear reference to physical destruction of the heavens and the earth that will occur when Jesus comes as a thief in the night. The result of this fiery, physical destruction will be the renewing and regeneration of the heavens and the earth into the eternal new heavens and new earth that we will inherit at His second coming and it will be a place where only righteousness dwells and where there will be no more death, crying, sorrow or pain. Peter said we look for new heavens and a new earth in direct fulfillment of the promise of Christ's second coming, so if we didn't inherit that until 1,000+ years later as Premils like you believe, then it would make 2 Peter 3:13 in a false teaching.

 

[Jay Ross]

I don't buy any of that at all. You are making something simple into something complicated because of the false SDA doctrine that you have decided to believe in. In 2 Peter 3:6-7, Peter compares the future fiery destruction of the heavens and the earth to the destruction that occurred with the flood in Noah's day. It's a clear reference to physical destruction of the heavens and the earth that will occur when Jesus comes as a thief in the night. The result of this fiery, physical destruction will be the renewing and regeneration of the heavens and the earth into the eternal new heavens and new earth that we will inherit at His second coming and it will be a place where only righteousness dwells and where there will be no more death, crying, sorrow or pain. Peter said we look for new heavens and a new earth in direct fulfillment of the promise of Christ's second coming, so if we didn't inherit that until 1,000+ years later as Premils like you believe, then it would make 2 Peter 3:13 in a false teaching.

This is 2 Peter 3:13 to reflect the meaning of the Greek text in this verse: -

2 Pet 3:13: - 13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for the refurbished heavens and a refreshed earth in which righteousness dwells.​

In our near future in around 20 years' time, we will see the judgement of the Heavenly Hosts and the Kings of the earth and they will be imprisoned for 1,000 years after which time they will be released for a little while period when the Great Tribulation will be experienced by those living at that time which will result in the beast and the false prophet first being captured and dispatched into the Lake of Fire followed by Satan shortly afterwards when he too will be captured and also dispatched into the Lake of Fire.

During this time period we will be consumed and refined by fire to remove all impurities from the saints so that what is left will be the righteousness of the Saints that will be judged and receive their rightful inheritance.

It is after this that the peoples of the earth will see Christ coming to Judge the peoples of the earth according to what is recorded in the books.

The 1,000 years of peace on the earth after the Armageddon Judgement will enable the Great Harvest of Souls to be undertaken until the Bottomless pit is opened for the Little while period when Satan, the Beast, the Little Horn/False Prophet and the Kings of the earth will rage upon the face of the earth.

After the time of the Great Tribulation, the GWTR judgement of the peoples of the earth, will occur after which God will restore/renew the heavens and the earth such that the Heavens can come down and God can live amongst us like He did in the Garden of Eden when He walk in the Grden with Adam and Eve.

Perhaps you need to reconsider your timeline for when these events will take place.​

 

[Truth7t7]

You want to talk about 100% Malarkey! You are saying that a description of fire coming out of the mouth of the two witnesses represents fire coming down from heaven and you have the two witnesses killing their enemies rather than loving them as Jesus commands. That is 100% Malarkey! It is 100% Malarkey to try to interpret the text of the most highly symbolic book in the Bible as literally as you possibly can!

Two dead bodies laying in a street in Jerusalem represents the (Church)?

100% Malarkey!

Revelation 11:6-11KJV
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

 

[covenantee]

This is 2 Peter 3:13 to reflect the meaning of the Greek text in this verse: -

​

2 Pet 3:13: - 13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for the refurbished heavens and a refreshed earth in which righteousness dwells.​

In our near future in around 20 years' time, we will see the judgement of the Heavenly Hosts and the Kings of the earth and they will be imprisoned for 1,000 years after which time they will be released for a little while period when the Great Tribulation will be experienced by those living at that time which will result in the beast and the false prophet first being captured and dispatched into the Lake of Fire followed by Satan shortly afterwards when he too will be captured and also dispatched into the Lake of Fire.

During this time period we will be consumed and refined by fire to remove all impurities from the saints so that what is left will be the righteousness of the Saints that will be judged and receive their rightful inheritance.

It is after this that the peoples of the earth will see Christ coming to Judge the peoples of the earth according to what is recorded in the books.

The 1,000 years of peace on the earth after the Armageddon Judgement will enable the Great Harvest of Souls to be undertaken until the Bottomless pit is opened for the Little while period when Satan, the Beast, the Little Horn/False Prophet and the Kings of the earth will rage upon the face of the earth.

After the time of the Great Tribulation, the GWTR judgement of the peoples of the earth, will occur after which God will restore/renew the heavens and the earth such that the Heavens can come down and God can live amongst us like He did in the Garden of Eden when He walk in the Grden with Adam and Eve.

Perhaps you need to reconsider your timeline for when these events will take place.​

new, which as recently made is superior to what it succeeds:... 2 Peter 3:13

2537 [e]
kainous
καινοὺς
New
Adj-AMP

 

[Jay Ross]

new, which as recently made is superior to what it succeeds:... 2 Peter 3:13

2537 [e]
kainous
καινοὺς
New
Adj-AMP

This is my understanding from the Interlinear I use.:-



Within the English language, the Greek Root word G:3501 is associated with age or for something recently acquired. For example, if I say that I have a new car, have I said that the car is "brand new" or a car that I have recently purchased.

On the other hand, the Greek Root word G:2537 is referring to the freshness of the object usually with respect to its refurbishment. For example, if I say that I have refreshed the look of the house, I have probably given the outside of the house a new coat of paint and the age of the house has not changed.

For example, in the Parable of the New Wine and the renewed wine skins, it tells us that you cannot put freshly squeezed wine juice into "old" hard and brittle wine skins because the fresh wine will cause the old wineskins to burst. The parable does tell us that we must put fresh wine into refreshed/refurbished wineskins which the fresh wine will not burst. Even brand new wineskins wine skins that have not been used can become hard and brittle and will also require to be refreshed/refurbished so that they too can hold the fresh wine without bursting.

That is why I tend to say that there is no "brand new" testament or covenant, but rather that Christ spoke about refreshing the process by which the old covenant was administered.

Shalom

 

[Jay Ross]

For clarity below is the given meaning of G:3501 for peoples' information: -




Please note the New Testament references where the respective words are found.

Shalom

 

[covenantee]

This is my understanding from the Interlinear I use.:-

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Within the English language, the Greek Root word G:3501 is associated with age or for something recently acquired. For example, if I say that I have a new car, have I said that the car is "brand new" or a car that I have recently purchased.

On the other hand, the Greek Root word G:2537 is referring to the freshness of the object usually with respect to its refurbishment. For example, if I say that I have refreshed the look of the house, I have probably given the outside of the house a new coat of paint and the age of the house has not changed.

For example, in the Parable of the New Wine and the renewed wine skins, it tells us that you cannot put freshly squeezed wine juice into "old" hard and brittle wine skins because the fresh wine will cause the old wineskins to burst. The parable does tell us that we must put fresh wine into refreshed/refurbished wineskins which the fresh wine will not burst. Even brand new wineskins wine skins that have not been used can become hard and brittle and will also require to be refreshed/refurbished so that they too can hold the fresh wine without bursting.

That is why I tend to say that there is no "brand new" testament or covenant, but rather that Christ spoke about refreshing the process by which the old covenant was administered.

Shalom

Do you have information about your interlinear? Who is/are its author/authors, and when was it written? Do you have a link to it?

 

[Jay Ross]

Do you have information about your interlinear? Who is/are its author/authors, and when was it written? Do you have a link to it?

I use PC Study Bible "One Touch." I developed the documents shown above for my own use.

 

[covenantee]

I use PC Study Bible "One Touch." I developed the documents shown above for my own use.

OK. I understand.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Two dead bodies laying in a street in Jerusalem represents the (Church)?

100% Malarkey!

Revelation 11:6-11KJV
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

Why do you not address anything I say? Are you afraid? You feel comfortable believing that it's talking about the two witnesses hating their enemies and literally killing them despite Jesus's command to love our enemies?

 

[Rockerduck]

I use PC Study Bible "One Touch." I developed the documents shown above for my own use.

You can't download the PC study bible anymore. They disappeared. I looked for a download link but couldn't find one, unless you know of one.

 

[Jay Ross]

You can't download the PC study bible anymore. They disappeared. I looked for a download link but couldn't find one, unless you know of one.

This is what my screen opens with: -



Yes PC Study Bible has been replaced by One Touch.

 

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This is what my screen opens with: -

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Yes PC Study Bible has been replaced by One Touch.

Thanks

 

[Earburner]

Just like reformed theology symbolizes the literal bodies that die and lay in a literal street in Jerusalem as a literal world watches as seen in the (Two Witnesses) of Revelation Chapter 11 below

Reformed theology in a fairy tale false teaching claims the (Two Witnesses) seen below represent the Old and New Testaments (Symbolically)?

Now That's A Bunch Of Malarkey!

Revelation 11:6-11KJV
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

No! The Two ("anointed ones") Witnesses were John the Baptist and Jesus.
Of all people in all time, they were the ONLY two people who were ever physically born WITH the Holy Spirit, aka anointed.
John 7
[38] He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
[39] (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the [permanent indwelling of the] Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

John was the witness to who Jesus is,
and Jesus was the witness to who God the Father is.

 

[Earburner]

The planet earth and the heavens will pass away in terms of how they are now and will be regenerated/renewed in the form of the new heavens and new earth where only righteousness will dwell.

In one way you are quite correct.
"The planet earth and the heavens will pass away in terms of how they are now".

Now, instead of stopping there, go on further by the Holy Spirit's teaching in KJV 2 Cor. 4:6-7, and discover in which earth the Righteousness of God's Holy Spirit seeks to permanently dwell in.
KJV 2 Peter 3
[13] Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth [God's] righteousness.

Did you conclude that it is we ourselves who are the New earth?
Do you dare to think of it, or does it scare you, that the New earth will not be anything like this earth, nor even that which Church- ianity promotes?
KJV John 14:23 is a good verse that will help you to digest God's concept of what the New earth is.

By the way, did God, who is only Spirit, create us for ourselves and our righteousness, or did He create us for Himself and His Righteousness?

 

[Douggg]

No! The Two ("anointed ones") Witnesses were John the Baptist and Jesus.
Of all people in all time, they were the ONLY two people who were ever physically born WITH the Holy Spirit, aka anointed.
John 7
[38] He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
[39] (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the [permanent indwelling of the] Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

John was the witness to who Jesus is,
and Jesus was the witness to who God the Father is.

The two witnesses in Revelation 11 are future. The text in Revelation 11 does not identify them specifically.

Base on Malachi 4:5, many persons think one of the two witnesses will be Elijah.

Malachi 4:
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

The Jews (Judaism) actually set a plate on their table each Passover meal celebration in anticipation of Elijah's coming. The Jews believe Elijah will be part of preparing people for the beginning of the messianic age.

Also in Matthew 17:1-8, Mark 9:2-8 and Luke 9:28-36, Moses and Elijah appeared in glory to Jesus on the mount of the Transfiguration.

So many persons think the other witness will be Moses.

But we don't really know for sure who the two witnesses will be.

 

[Earburner]

The two witnesses in Revelation 11 are future. The text in Revelation 11 does not identify them specifically.

Base on Malachi 4:5, many persons think one of the two witnesses will be Elijah.

Malachi 4:
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

The Jews (Judaism) actually set a plate on their table each Passover meal celebration in anticipation of Elijah's coming. The Jews believe Elijah will be part of preparing people for the beginning of the messianic age.

Also in Matthew 17:1-8, Mark 9:2-8 and Luke 9:28-36, Moses and Elijah appeared in glory to Jesus on the mount of the Transfiguration.

So many persons think the other witness will be Moses.

But we don't really know for sure who the two witnesses will be.

Did you know that all four gospel writers had something important to say about John the Baptist?
The following scriptures are just a few to show that John the Baptist was indeed he who came in the spirit of Elijah.
("In the spirit of", is meaning in the manner and likeness of Elijah).

"The truth", who is Jesus himself, said this:
KJV Mat. 17
[10] And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
[11] And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
[12] But I say unto you, that Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.

KJV Mark 9
[11] And they asked him, saying, Why say the scribes that Elias must first come?
[12] And he answered and told them, Elias verily cometh first, and restoreth all things; and how it is written of the Son of man, that he must suffer many things, and be set at nought.
[13] But I say unto you, That Elias is indeed come, and they have done unto him whatsoever they listed, as it is written of him.

KJV Luke 1
[13] But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.
[14] And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.
[15] For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he [John] shall be FILLED with the Holy Ghost, EVEN from his mother's womb.
[16] And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.
[17] And he [John the Baptist] shall go before Him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

KJV  John 1
[21] And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.
[25] And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet? (see verse 33).
[26] John answered them, saying, I baptize [only] with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
[27] He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose.
[29] The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
[30] This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.
[31] And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
[32] And John bare record [witnessed], saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
[33] And I knew him not: but he that SENT ME to baptize with water [John 1:6], the SAME SAID unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

Edit:
The above is a direct fulfillment of KJV Zech. 4:1-14.
[11] Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these TWO olive TREES [branches] upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
[12] And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these TWO olive BRANCHES [trees] [Zech. 3:8*, 6:12**] which through the TWO golden pipes [figuratively-voices] empty the golden  OIL [figuratively- the mind/words of the Holy Spirit] OUT OF themselves?
[13] And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.
[14] Then said he, These are THE TWO anointed ones, that stand by [for] the LORD of the whole earth.

* Note 1: "I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH" [branch/tree #1].

**Note 2: "Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; [branch/tree #2] and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD":

Those TWO Olive trees/branches were *John the Baptist- branch/tree #1, and **Jesus- branch/tree #2.

Of all people for all time, in all the world, they were the ONLY two people who were ever physically born, having the permanent indwelling of the Holy Spirit of God.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

In one way you are quite correct.
"The planet earth and the heavens will pass away in terms of how they are now".

Now, instead of stopping there, go on further by the Holy Spirit's teaching in KJV 2 Cor. 4:6-7, and discover in which earth the Righteousness of God's Holy Spirit seeks to permanently dwell in.
KJV 2 Peter 3
[13] Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth [God's] righteousness.

Did you conclude that it is we ourselves who are the New earth?

No, I did not conclude that because that is not true. The new heavens and new earth are written about in direct relation to the current heavens and current earth. So, the current heavens and current earth will be renewed by fire, resulting in the new heavens and new earth. What do you think, that we will not actually have a place to dwell for eternity?

Do you dare to think of it, or does it scare you, that the New earth will not be anything like this earth, nor even that which Church- ianity promotes?

What kind of silly question is this? We don't know exactly what it will be like. I'm sure it will be far better than what things are like now on this earth. Why would I be scared of that? I'm very much looking forward to it.

KJV John 14:23 is a good verse that will help you to digest God's concept of what the New earth is.

That verse has nothing to do with the new earth that has not yet been ushered in, it has to do with the Holy Spirit dwelling within us right now.

By the way, did God, who is only Spirit, create us for ourselves and our righteousness, or did He create us for Himself and His Righteousness?

For Himself, of course. Why do you ask? Why do you ask so many questions without indicating why you are asking them? Stop playing around and just get to the point.

 

[Earburner]

No, I did not conclude that because that is not true. The new heavens and new earth are written about in direct relation to the current heavens and current earth. So, the current heavens and current earth will be renewed by fire, resulting in the new heavens and new earth. What do you think, that we will not actually have a place to dwell for eternity?


What kind of silly question is this? We don't know exactly what it will be like. I'm sure it will be far better than what things are like now on this earth. Why would I be scared of that? I'm very much looking forward to it.


That verse has nothing to do with the new earth that has not yet been ushered in, it has to do with the Holy Spirit dwelling within us right now.


For Himself, of course. Why do you ask? Why do you ask so many questions without indicating why you are asking them? Stop playing around and just get to the point.

Yes, of course!! When and where should we ever think that our own righteousness is worth anything in the KoG?

So now you see.....I did get to the scriptural point with the Holy Spirit's understanding [1Cor. 2:13 "Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but [that] which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual]."

2 Cor. 4:7
But we have this treasure [God's Presence and righteousness] IN [within our]  EARTHEN vessels [bodies], that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new  EARTH, where-IN dwelleth [God's] righteousness.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Yes, of course!! When and where should we ever think that our righteousness is worth anything in the KoG?

What does this response have to do with anything that I said?

So now you see.....I did get to the scriptural point with the Holy Spirit's understanding [1Cor. 2:13 "Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but [that] which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual]."

2 Cor. 4:7
But we have this treasure [God's Presence and righteousness] IN [within our]  EARTHEN vessels [bodies], that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new  EARTH, where-IN dwelleth [God's] righteousness.

Ugh. The context of 2 Peter 3:13 is seen from the preceding verses which speak of the dissolving and burning up of the current heavens and earth. So, clearly, Peter did not have our bodies in mind there, but rather was talking about the current heavens and earth being renewed by fire, resulting in the new heavens and new earth.