The Mark of the Beast...

[Jack]

Yet you can't even answer a direct question and see your mistake.

This is a debating site and I'm trying to have a mature debate with you, you should be on a statement site not this site. We are supposed to debate on this site and look for truth

The warnings are clear. If you don't trust the Bible then accept the Mark. It's DEAD ahead. You'll find out for sure what "mistake" means.

 

[Marty fox]

The fact that it mentions two very specific locations, the right hand or forehead, would suggest to me it's literal, especially since not everyone has a right hand, but everyone alive has a forehead. What if by taking the mark they become so
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that they become incapable of repenting? Romans 1:28 would seem to imply that "and because they did not think it worthwhile to acknowledge God, God delivered them over to a corrupt mind so that they do what is not right." At a certain point, blasphemy's threshold is crossed, and there's no going back.

But then in your view they took the mark before they became spiritually corrupted so what if they died or repented before then became spiritually corrupted?

The mark on the forehead represents your minds devotions and the mark on the right hand represents your actions proving your devotions

Exodus 13
8 On that day tell your son, ‘I do this because of what the Lord did for me when I came out of Egypt.’ 9 This observance will be for you like a sign on your hand and a reminder on your forehead that this law of the Lord is to be on your lips. For the Lord brought you out of Egypt with his mighty hand.

 

[Jack]

But then in your view they took the mark before they became spiritually corrupted so what if they died or repented before then became spiritually corrupted?

The mark on the forehead represents your minds devotions and the mark on the right hand represents your actions

What an imagination! Are you JW?

proving your devotions

Exodus 13
8 On that day tell your son, ‘I do this because of what the Lord did for me when I came out of Egypt.’ 9 This observance will be for you like a sign on your hand and a reminder on your forehead that this law of the Lord is to be on your lips. For the Lord brought you out of Egypt with his mighty hand.

Never heard of Neuralink?????

You will!

 

[Anchorite]

The mark on the forehead represents your minds devotions and the mark on the right hand represents your actions proving your devotions.

So if the day comes, and it seems to be coming swiftly, when we have to buy and sell via an implanted computer chip or RFID tattoo on the right hand and forehead, will you go along with it, thinking the mark of the beast is not anything physical?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

So you would accept a government chip in your right hand or in your forehead?

It depends on the circumstances, but I would if it doesn't have anything to do with denying Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. The mark of the beast marks someone as a person who worships the beast and doesn't have their name written in the book of life (Revelation 13:8, Revelation 14:9-11), so explain how having a government chip would relate directly to whether or not your name is written in the book of life?

 

[Jericho]

But then in your view they took the mark before they became spiritually corrupted so what if they died or repented before then became spiritually corrupted?

There seems to be a clear delineation once the mark is taken. It's not simply a chip in the hand or whatever; they have to worship the Beast to get it. That in itself is a blasphemous act. There is no interim period between taking the mark and becoming spiritually corrupted; I suspect it's instantaneous. Otherwise, why would an angel go around warning people not to take the mark (Rev 14:9)? The only answer is because once you do, there is no going back.

 

[Jack]

It depends on the circumstances, but I would if it doesn't have anything to do with denying Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. The mark of the beast marks someone as a person who worships the beast and doesn't have their name written in the book of life (Revelation 13:8, Revelation 14:9-11), so explain how having a government chip would relate directly to whether or not your name is written in the book of life?

WOW! Just WOW!

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

What an imagination! Are you JW?

Grow up. Many Christians over the past almost 2,000 years have believed that the mark of the beast is spiritual rather than physical. Most of the early church fathers believed it was a spiritual mark. Asking someone if they are a JW just because of believing that is ridiculous and childish.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

WOW! Just WOW!

WOW! Just WOW at your lack of spiritual discernment about what is written in the book of Revelation. WOW! Explain to me how exactly whether someone is saved or not (has their name written in the book of life or not) can be determined physically rather than spiritually? WOW! Such a thing is NEVER taught in scripture! WOW! You are not even putting any effort into understanding scripture. WOW!

I specifically said I only would if it meant I was denying Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. WOW! What is wrong with saying that? WOW! I'm dealing with a little child here. WOW!

 

[Marty fox]

There seems to be a clear delineation once the mark is taken. It's not simply a chip in the hand or whatever; they have to worship the Beast to get it. That in itself is a blasphemous act. There is no interim period between taking the mark and becoming spiritually corrupted; I suspect it's instantaneous. Otherwise, why would an angel go around warning people not to take the mark (Rev 14:9)? The only answer is because once you do, there is no going back.

Its not a literal mark

Satan worshipers have repented and been saved the bible clearly states that unrepentance is the only unforgivable sin thus unrepentant devotion to the beast is the symbolic mark of the beast.

 

[Jack]

Grow up. Many Christians over the past almost 2,000 years have believed that the mark of the beast is spiritual rather than physical. Most of the early church fathers believed it was a spiritual mark. Asking someone if they are a JW just because of believing that is ridiculous and childish.

It's coming right at you. Satan has blinded you. Cashless society, Mark of the Beast, World Government, the return of Israel to their Land of the Bible!

 

[Jack]

WOW! Just WOW at your lack of spiritual discernment about what is written in the book of Revelation. WOW! Explain to me how exactly whether someone is saved or not (has their name written in the book of life or not) can be determined physically rather than spiritually? WOW! Such a thing is NEVER taught in scripture! WOW! You are not even putting any effort into understanding scripture. WOW!

I specifically said I only would if it meant I was denying Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. WOW! What is wrong with saying that? WOW! I'm dealing with a little child here. WOW!

Six WOW's and you tell me to grow up.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

So if the day comes, and it seems to be coming swiftly, when we have to buy and sell via an implanted computer chip or RFID tattoo on the right hand and forehead, will you go along with it, thinking the mark of the beast is not anything physical?

No one is saying they would accept a physical mark if it related to denying Jesus Christ and giving one's loyalty to the beast. Many of us just don't believe that is what the mark of the beast entails.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

It's coming right at you. Satan has blinded you. Cashless society, Mark of the Beast, World Government, the return of Israel to their Land of the Bible!

Okay, buddy. Your alarmist, childish nonsense means nothing to me. No physical mark can make me deny my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. If such a mark existed, then of course I wouldn't accept it. No one is saying otherwise.

 

[Jack]

Its not a literal mark

Prove it. You don't even know what's going on in the world.

Satan worshipers have repented and been saved the bible clearly states that unrepentance is the only unforgivable sin thus unrepentant devotion to the beast is the symbolic mark of the beast.

"Symbolic", JW language!

 

[Jack]

Okay, buddy. Your alarmist, childish nonsense means nothing to me. No physical mark can make me deny my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. If such a mark existed, then of course I wouldn't accept it. No one is saying otherwise.

It can sure send you to Hell!

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Six WOW's and you tell me to grow up.

Just showing you and making it clear how immature you are.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Prove it. You don't even know what's going on in the world.

"Symbolic", JW language!

Your false accusations of someone being a JW just because they see the mark as being spiritual is completely unfounded. Many Christians have seen it as a spiritual mark over the past almost 2,000 years, including most of the early church fathers. Has nothing to do with JWs.

 

[Jack]

Just showing you and making it clear how immature you are.

So you're THREE times as immature? lol

I knew the Israel wannabees are corrupt but I didn't realize how utterly corrupt!

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

It can sure send you to Hell!

Anyone with the mark of the beast will go to hell, but how can taking a physical mark mean that I'm denying Jesus Christ? Only if that was specifically indicated. If that was the case, then I, of course, wouldn't take it. Hello?