The Mark of the Beast...

[Jack]

Your false accusations of someone being a JW just because they see the mark as being spiritual is completely unfounded. Many Christians have seen it as a spiritual mark over the past almost 2,000 years, including most of the early church fathers. Has nothing to do with JWs.

Like I said, you don't have a clue what's coming right at you! Makes me wonder how many you're leading to Hell.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I guess kids are being let out of school early today.

 

[Marty fox]

Its amazing how satan is using Christian's interpretation of the mark to misinterpret John 3:16.

John 3:16 is directly out of Jesus' mouth, it's a promise directly from Jesus for salvation for whoever repents. Take Jesus ay His word

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Like I said, you don't have a clue what's coming right at you! Makes me wonder how many you're leading to Hell.

Stop your stupid foolishness. I am aware of technology and what's going on. But, seeing the mark of the beast as being physical is like seeing the seal of God as being physical. Is that what you think, that the seal of God is a physical seal?

 

[Jack]

Anyone with the mark of the beast will go to hell, but how can taking a physical mark mean that I'm denying Jesus Christ? Only if that was specifically indicated. If that was the case, then I, of course, wouldn't take it. Hello?

Well your fellow Israel wannabee Marty thinks someone who takes the Mark can be saved.

 

[Marty fox]

Prove it. You don't even know what's going on in the world.

"Symbolic", JW language!

you still haven't answered any of my questions, you are just replying with offhand comments

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Its amazing how satan is using Christian's interpretation of the mark to misinterpret John 3:16.

John 3:16 is directly out of Jesus' mouth, it's a promise directly from Jesus for salvation for whoever repents. Take Jesus ay His word

Right.

John 3:16 (Sensationalist Nonsense Version): For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever does not accept a microchip should not perish but have everlasting life.

 

[Marty fox]

Well your fellow Israel wannabee Marty thinks someone who takes the Mark can be saved.

No I don't I never said that I was just debating what the mark is

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Well your fellow Israel wannabee Marty thinks someone who takes the Mark can be saved.

That is not at all what he said. Repent of your lies!

 

[Jack]

you still haven't answered any of my questions, you are just replying with offhand comments

You said those who take the Mark can be saved. Tell that to your SI buddy.

 

[Jack]

No I don't I never said that I was just debating what the mark is

I don't think Israel wannabees have a clue about much of anything.

 

[Marty fox]

So if the day comes, and it seems to be coming swiftly, when we have to buy and sell via an implanted computer chip or RFID tattoo on the right hand and forehead, will you go along with it, thinking the mark of the beast is not anything physical?

if that day came I still wouldn't think its that mark, but I would never be apart of anything that would want me to reject Jesus

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Okay but my question still stands, so I will ask you?

Wouldn't taking a microchip and not being able to repent of that contradict John 3:16?

I'm just trying to get people to think rationally

It doesn't look like there's much interest in rational thinking in this thread.

 

[Marty fox]

You said those who take the Mark can be saved. Tell that to your SI buddy.

No I didn't

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I don't think Israel wannabees have a clue about much of anything.

You are an immature little child who can do nothing but lie about people and call them names. How did you manage to get access to your parents' laptop or phone?

 

[Marty fox]

It doesn't look like there's much interest in rational thinking in this thread.

Nope time to check out I guess its supposed to be debating

 

[Jack]

That is not at all what he said. Repent of your lies!

Quoting your wannabee buddy:
"Satan worshipers have repented and been saved the bible clearly states that "unrepentance is the only unforgivable sin" thus unrepentant devotion to the beast is the symbolic mark of the beast.

 

[Jack]

No I didn't

See above.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The Greek word for mark (charagma) means a stamp, imprinted mark, or brand so it does seem to be a literal, visible, physical mark.

The Greek word for lamb means a young sheep. Does that mean the word can't be used figuratively? Of course not. Jesus is referred to as the Lamb of God. There's no reason that the Greek word for mark can't be used figuratively. The word "seal" is normally only used to refer to a physical seal, yet it also is used in scripture to refer figuratively to the seal of the Holy Spirit. If the seal of God can be spiritual, why can't the mark of the beast also be spiritual? There's no reason why not.

 

[Anchorite]

Stop your stupid foolishness. I am aware of technology and what's going on. But, seeing the mark of the beast as being physical is like seeing the seal of God as being physical. Is that what you think, that the seal of God is a physical seal?

How could John know the Father’s name was written on their foreheads, if this is not a literal physical mark?

Worship of the beast includes receiving the mark of the beast.

This worship could be subtle, just agreeing to get the chip implant or RFID tattoo, so you can buy and sell.

I would be wary of anything put on hands or forehead that enables financial transactions.

Does not look like there is any way, or desire, to repent from receiving the mark.


Revelation 14

1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.