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Why are you changing the subject?
1 Kings 2:3
3 And keep the charge of the LORD your God: to walk in His ways, to keep His statutes, His commandments, His judgments, and His testimonies, as it is written in the Law of Moses,
Gray_Joy
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You're welcome, and there's lots more Scripture.
Ezra 7:6
6 this Ezra came up from Babylon; and he was a skilled scribe in the Law of Moses, which the LORD God of Israel had given.
Gray_Joy
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You misunderstand.
That was the point of my prior reply.
You believe it is a matter of changing the subject after I asked you,Where did Moses get the law from first?
When in fact the 1 Kings verse you posted reiterates my subject well.
God is the source of the Torah. The law of God.
It is from God. God's laws were revealed to Moses.
Moses did not reveal his laws to the people after descending from Mount Sinai.
Moses delivered God's revealed laws to those set free from Egypt by God.
Your comment was, " It is not Moses's law."
I have LOTS of Bible that says it is. Already quoted some. Want more?
Nehemiah 8:1
1 Now all the people gathered together as one man in the open square that was in front of the Water Gate; and they told Ezra the scribe to bring the Book of the Law of Moses, which the LORD had commanded Israel.
Even Jesus called it "the law of Moses"!
John 7:23
23 If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken,
Gray_Joy
Active Member
I see. With so many posts credited to your profile, I was not aware you were deficient in reading comprehension.
My apologies for taxing your patience.
Be well.
How ironic!
1 Corinthians 9:9
9 For it is written in the law of Moses, "You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain." Is it oxen God is concerned about?
Want more?
Gray_Joy
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Not in the least.
Yours is a reading disability. That's not funny.
I've read you delete God from the Mitzvot for far too long.
You cannot discuss the Bible from a place of understanding when you repeatedly insist,even to the point of misrepresenting scripture, that Moses was the source of the law.
I quote God and you call it "reading disability". Why don't you quote God?
Do you know what Jesus said about LIARS?
I quote LOTS of Scripture. Want more? Where's yours? Do you even have a blood sacrifice for your sins? Why aren't you in Israel???
The Bible does not teach Paul wrote Hebrews.
Rom to Philemon = Paul
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Gal 1:11-12, 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30
To be saved & sealed requires ONLY faith/belief/trust in the death/burial/resurrection of Christ
....
What are the 'performance' conditions for the above ?
Titus 3:
5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Gal 2:
16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Rom 3:
28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Eph 2:
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Rom 4:
5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Rom 5:
1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
we do not possess eternal salvation in this life, but the grace of God that must be increased by good works (mt 7:7 mt 26:41 2 pet 3:18) and can be lost by deadly sin! (Eph 5:2-6
gal 5:1-4 gal 5:19-21 gal 6:7-8
1 cor 6:9-10 & 15-20)
thks
(((deeds of righteousness)))
rom 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
((walking refers to the performance of deeds))
Gal 6:7-8
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
((sowing refers to the performance of deeds))
Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
((to live according to the flesh or according to Spirit refers to to the performance of deeds))
It impossible to walk, sow, or live without deeds!
The rightous walk, sow, & live by the deeds of the Spirit!
1 pet 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
thks
I don't think it is symbolic christians are called to suffer with and for our savior!
Matthew 10:38
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Matthew 16:24
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life...
1 Peter 4:16
Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
2 cor 4:17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory;
2 cor 5:15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
2 Thessalonians 1:5
Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
Colossians 1:11
Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;
2 Tim 2:3
Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
Phil 1:29
For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
2 tim 1:8
Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
1 Peter 5:10
But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.
Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done they will of God, ye might receive the promise.
James 1:3
Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
James 1:4
But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.
thks
If you knew what you were talking about, you'd be dangerous to the Devil, but because you dont, you are just one more religious tool whom He uses, according to his will, (as Paul teaches) .... while you dont realize it. @Gray_Joy .
Now, Take it from Jesus, who said it was "Moses Law".
Jesus said......""Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law (of moses)."
Also, if you own a bible @Gray_Joy , then notice that the Law is found in the 5 books of : Moses., and that is the OLD COVENANT.
So, here is an update for you and for the other religious fanatics who are chasing "commandments and law"..... = "Moses" law" is NOT God's Law.
Also... = Christians under the New Covenant are not to chase "the law of Moses".........they are to Embrace the Grace of God., that is their Salvation.
Now.....What is God's Law?
A.) Its "The Righteousness of Faith".......its "Grace through Faith". Its.."According to God's MERCY He saved us, without works of (moses) law".
Also.......an UNbeliever is still "under (Moses) law"..... and there are 613 of them, and of course the 10 commandement are just a part.
= Whereas the CHRISTiand is "not under (moses) law< but under GOD's GRACE".
See that GRACE of God?
That is how you may define "God's Law" and be correct. @Gray_Joy
Listen little one........you dont "walk in the spirit" with your feet or your self effort.
You are talking just to hear your own voice.
So do this for us....... @faithhopecharity .
List 5 "works of Rightesousness" that you can do today, that an unbeliever can't do.
So, when you name, Prayer, and Giving , and loving others........and this is also something that an UNBELIEVER Can do......
When you recognize this, you might just wake up out of your substantial theological ignorance, and then God may show you a few things..
Till then "you got nothing".
Nothing at all, but opinions and guessing, and verses you can post, that you can't even explain.
And we all see your type constantly joining this forum and logging in.........just one more religious pretender, pretending to know something about God and His word.
And you are making us suffer with your theological ignorance.
Is that what you mean ? @faithhopecharity
Picking up a Cross, does not make you a Christian.
What makes you a Christian is that Jesus died on The Cross for you, so that you can believe this and become one.
Are you a Jew?
Jesus was talking to Jews, in your verse...who were under the OLD Covenant.
Whereas Christians are NOT........and they are told that they "will have tribulation" in this World, and you dont have to look for it, as it will come automatically, if you are trying to serve God FAITHFULLY.
Jesus explains in John 14:6, that He is that narrow Gate.........because Jesus is the "only WAY to the Father".
So, by entering JESUS, as "in Christ"....born again, you have gone through the Gate, = and Moses Law, can't get you there, readers.
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