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David in NJ

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Sure it does..you missed the point....you do know it doesn't promise a post trib rapture.
Everyone who declares pre-trib rapture speaks against the words of CHRIST and the Apostles = Gospel, 1st & 2nd Thess, 1 Cor

BIG TROUBLE ahead for the pre-tribbers
 
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ewq1938

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No, I don't know what your post-trib resurrection/rapture view chart would look like.

Show your chart which has the great tribulation, Jesus's return, the resurrection/rapture event, the resurrection of the great tribulation martyrs of Revelation 20:4-5, the 1000 years.


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You did not show the resurrection of great tribulation martyrs of Revelation 20:4-5.

Also, here is the text of Revelation 19. In what verse(s) is the resurrection/rapture event taking place ?

1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:

2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.

3 And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.

5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.

6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
 

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None. The rapture is over by that timeframe.
The resurrection of the dead in Christ is the first portion of the resurrection/rapture event. If the rapture is over before Revelation 19, then also has to be the resurrection before Revelation 19.

Yet, in Revelation 20:4-5 is the resurrection of martyred great tribulation martyrs. You don't show that resurrection on your chart.

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If the resurrection/rapture event is not in the text of Revelation 19, then what text in Revelation is the resurrection/rapture event ?
 

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The resurrection of the dead in Christ is the first portion of the resurrection/rapture event.


There are no portions. The resurrection is for all the saved dead and it happens all at once. Remember all the scriptures I posted that show only two end times resurrections? The saved, and the unsaved. There is no third group of more saved people.


If the rapture is over before Revelation 19, then also has to be the resurrection before Revelation 19.

Of course.


Yet, in Revelation 20:4-5 is the resurrection of martyred great tribulation martyrs.

Rev's chronology jumps around like that sometimes. That group resurrecting is part of the overall resurrection that takes place before the white horse descent to Armageddon.





You don't show that resurrection on your chart.


I already explained how it is.


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If the resurrection/rapture event is not in the text of Revelation 19, then what text in Revelation is the resurrection/rapture event ?

Rev 14 is one place but scripture is not limited to Rev. It's also two events which is why there are two different words that have to be said.
 

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Rev 14 is one place but scripture is not limited to Rev. It's also two events which is why there are two different words that have to be said.
What verses in Revelation 14 have the resurrection/rapture event in them ?
 

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Here is what i noticed on every forum:

They do not want the TRUTH

They only want to express/defend what their pastors/leaders have told them what to believe.

Did you know that on christianforums.com they have a 'Safe Place' for pre-tribbers.
No one is allowed on that thread unless you bow the knee to the idol of pre-fib rapture!!!

The TRUTH is so powerful that all who speak the TRUTH from GOD's Mouth are deemed a threat and divisive!
and look again at your very last sentence .
And now may all look again at your very last sentence .
HELLO victim card , HELLO judge not card
The enemy known as and call satan , KNOWS THIS david .
ITS WHY he pumped a false judge not love to the churches .
ITS WHY he has many men and women even in christendom convinced
that one cannot learn the bible on their own and must sit under men , greek and etc to learn .
HE IS DECEIVING THEM ALL . And my oh my how many seem to love to have it so .
Speaking of a threat , Just wait my friend .
SOON all who did not conform to this inclusive god and his ecumeincal harlot
WILL BE SEEN as only a dire threat to world peace and a hater of even what they think is GOD and is LOVE .
In other words the ecumeincal phase of the judge not correct not victim card that led them to the lie
WILL become the CRUSADES and be enforced BY a powerful dig ital AI system .
 

amigo de christo

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Here is what i noticed on every forum:

They do not want the TRUTH

They only want to express/defend what their pastors/leaders have told them what to believe.

Did you know that on christianforums.com they have a 'Safe Place' for pre-tribbers.
No one is allowed on that thread unless you bow the knee to the idol of pre-fib rapture!!!

The TRUTH is so powerful that all who speak the TRUTH from GOD's Mouth are deemed a threat and divisive!
THE TRUTH , THE LIGHT , for thy WORD is a LIGHT unto my path , exposes what is in the darkness .
THE TRUTH never once hides and conceals what is in the darkness . TRUTH Exposes.
Remember what JESUS said to even his own brethren who did not yet beleive on HIM .
The world hates me because i expose its d eeds .
Someone else came into these churches david and it pretended to be as an angel OF LIGHT .
but its light covered up the darkness with a judge not .
And it did so cause it knew the leaven WOULD ONLY GROW if not corrected .
AND IT DID GROW david . MY GOODNESS it sure did grow .
Till now not only are sins called good and the words of God that expose them as evil
EVEN the gospel of JESUS HIMSELF is seen as hate , as non inclusive and as religoius extermism .
The dark one knew and knows exactly how to allure and to decieve man . AND HE DID .s
WHAT stands in the way of evil , TRUTH DOES . IT exposes what is evil and does not
cover over what is evil so that in time it will be accepted as good . THE DEVIL DID THIS david .
And beleive me when i say , T his dragon , its beast , its harlot
is about to go overtime on the shedding of the blood of the saints who did not and would not conform .
 

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The resurrection of the dead in Christ is the first portion of the resurrection/rapture event. If the rapture is over before Revelation 19, then also has to be the resurrection before Revelation 19.

Yet, in Revelation 20:4-5 is the resurrection of martyred great tribulation martyrs. You don't show that resurrection on your chart.

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If the resurrection/rapture event is not in the text of Revelation 19, then what text in Revelation is the resurrection/rapture event ?
Rev 20 has no resurrection after the trib and pre mil.
It does not say so or point to it.
Nothing at all is there concerning their resurrection timing.
Absolutely nothing.
You and others have made that up..
 

amigo de christo

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CORRECT


FALSE

The LORD Jesus Christ Prophesied Saying: "Immediately AFTER(Post) the tribulation of those days...I will gather MY Elect"
This church age in large has no idea what it made its bed with my friend .
It was allured and seduced by a harlots sensual love that she and her co workers sold to them as though it were
the Love of God .
Go on d avid , take a peek inside these so called love churches , these so called judge not churches .
BRING A Bible into them and read words that expose sins and false gospels and false teachers .
SEE what YOU GET T OLD by these lovers of a harlot as they cry away with thee hater
and take thy hate speech with you , for god is love . THEY got no idea what god they love my friend .
And please understand why i did not capitlize that god , nor will i e ver once do so .
CAUSE it aint GOD , it aint HIS CHRIST , IT AINT HIS LOVE , its love
rejoices in inquity and hates the very TRUTH that exposes their evil deeds .
And now a word about the love of GOD .
CHARITY REJOICES IN THE TRUTH , not in inquity , not in lies . their love rejioces in inquitiy and a lie .
SOMEONE lied to them all .
SOMEONE convinced them he was GOD and this is love .
Someone been lying and now prepared them unto what IT promises them will lead them all
to peace n safety . YET its peace HAS DENIED THE VERY GOSPEL of GOD .
Somone , as in the most subtile creature that was in the garden , knows how to lie and to twist the scrips
unto their own destruction .
 

amigo de christo

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CORRECT


FALSE

The LORD Jesus Christ Prophesied Saying: "Immediately AFTER(Post) the tribulation of those days...I will gather MY Elect"
And now a reminder .
With all this false sensual love being sold
with all this false version of judge not God is love being sold .
With all this ye cannot learn the bible by reading it on your own being sold
With all this false peace being sold
With all this delusion spreading like wildfire ........
GUESS who is not buying into it .
THE SHEEP david . THE SHEEP . cause JESUS has his sheep .
And HE testifies on THE TRUTH and all who are of the TRUTH come to HIM and heed HIS VOICE .
JESUS is not liken unto these sold out hirleings . JESUS actually cares for the sheep david .
And thus the sheep would have had that same kind of care for other sheep as JESUS DID and DOES .
SHEEP have been born again . And THE SPIRIT of the MOST HOLY GOD , WHICH IS AND WHO IS TRUTH ,
DOES GUIDE them and lead them into all TRUTH . not into sins and lies as do these hirelings of the harlot .
 

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This church age in large has no idea what it made its bed with my friend .
It was allured and seduced by a harlots sensual love that she and her co workers sold to them as though it were
the Love of God .
Go on d avid , take a peek inside these so called love churches , these so called judge not churches .
BRING A Bible into them and read words that expose sins and false gospels and false teachers .
SEE what YOU GET T OLD by these lovers of a harlot as they cry away with thee hater
and take thy hate speech with you , for god is love . THEY got no idea what god they love my friend .
And please understand why i did not capitlize that god , nor will i e ver once do so .
CAUSE it aint GOD , it aint HIS CHRIST , IT AINT HIS LOVE , its love
rejoices in inquity and hates the very TRUTH that exposes their evil deeds .
And now a word about the love of GOD .
CHARITY REJOICES IN THE TRUTH , not in inquity , not in lies . their love rejioces in inquitiy and a lie .
SOMEONE lied to them all .
SOMEONE convinced them he was GOD and this is love .
Someone been lying and now prepared them unto what IT promises them will lead them all
to peace n safety . YET its peace HAS DENIED THE VERY GOSPEL of GOD .
Somone , as in the most subtile creature that was in the garden , knows how to lie and to twist the scrips
unto their own destruction .
@amigo de christo
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Marvelloustime

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And now a reminder .
With all this false sensual love being sold
with all this false version of judge not God is love being sold .
With all this ye cannot learn the bible by reading it on your own being sold
With all this false peace being sold
With all this delusion spreading like wildfire ........
GUESS who is not buying into it .
THE SHEEP david . THE SHEEP . cause JESUS has his sheep .
And HE testifies on THE TRUTH and all who are of the TRUTH come to HIM and heed HIS VOICE .
JESUS is not liken unto these sold out hirleings . JESUS actually cares for the sheep david .
And thus the sheep would have had that same kind of care for other sheep as JESUS DID and DOES .
SHEEP have been born again . And THE SPIRIT of the MOST HOLY GOD , WHICH IS AND WHO IS TRUTH ,
DOES GUIDE them and lead them into all TRUTH . not into sins and lies as do these hirelings of the harlot .
@amigo de christo
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