Do We Have False Teachers {WE SURE DO}

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Only those of us servants who experienced the voice of God understand everything that was revealed to us through our testimonies of the knowledge of God called Christ.

You have no knowledge of God whatsoever. You lie about the day of the Lord and the Lake of Fire because you do not understand what will happen on that day in the future.
hmm i found her (her?) insight quite prescient for a believer. And i seriously doubt that you have any knowledge of any days in the future, with all due respect, as that would then be a violation of Scripture.
 

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that is because that day is "today," but Scripture is written so that people might "see and not see," another way of saying "read what they want to read." And the belief that God is maybe not telling the truth, @ "on earth as it is in heaven," or Christ @ "I came that you might have life; more abundantly" being as persistent as it is, a way to read that allows for some escape from earth into a nirvana of desire must be presented, which is why 1Now concerning how and when all this will happen, dear brothers and sisters, we don't really need to write you and 13Therefore be alert, because you don't know either the day or the hour are in Scripture, and no one questions the coyness inherent in these statements.

If you listen to the gospel of God that I've been preaching to God's chosen believers, then you will learn everything that our Creator wanted us to know about how we're created, what the beast is and why it was created, what happens on the day of the Lord and how we'll experience life after that day of destruction.

It's obvious you were not chosen as one of God's believers, otherwise you would not be arguing which comes from Satan and the beast by the way.
 

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hmm i found her (her?) insight quite prescient for a believer. And i seriously doubt that you have any knowledge of any days in the future, with all due respect, as that would then be a violation of Scripture.

Neither you or her has any knowledge about the beast, how we're created, what happens on the day of the Lord or how we'll experience life after that day. You might violate the scriptures but the scriptures are only used by God to prove to us servants that our testimonies for Him are true and accurate. It's impossible for us servants to violate something that we testify to, which is how all the original scriptures came into the world for all human beings to observe.
 

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Prove it when the Quran teaches that the enemies of Allah will stay in it and burn forever.
isn't that essentially what you believe also?

God is the All-Consuming Fire, see, and no one escapes the flames. Everyone reaps what they sow.
You are mistaken. I have done no altar works.
what must i do to be saved?
when anyone believes in Him, they are saved.
so Hitler is in, then?
The point about Jesus being lifted up was so that the symbology of looking to Him for eternal life just as those that were bitten by poisonous snake looked to the raised brazen image of the serpent on the post to be cured of that poisonous snake bite. That is how sinners are saved by Him.
i would go read that again maybe, because that is ezackly how they are not saved, and Nehushtan was broken up, not brought to the temple in Jerusalem.
 
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Saved believers should be seeking the Lord Jesus Christ in trusting them as their Good Shepherd to be abiding in Him to save them from what is coming on the earth.
well imo "saved believers" should maybe seek a tiny little bit if humility, and get a handle on their egos, and at the same time be a little more aware that they manifest whatever is to come, even as they believe they can confidently predict it like the world is doing, too.

Countless generations have predicted some "what is coming on the earth" based upon mistranslations of Scripture, and while i think they are to be forgiven for not knowing/realizing what they are doing, it should be obvious on some level that this is just fear-mongering based upon prognostication, crystal-ball gazing, and the takeaway for a seeker imo is to understand how these people have revealed themselves, where their heart is iow. Not meaning bad or good, just it is what it is.

The only enemy anyone need worry about is the one in the mirror.
 
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If you listen to the gospel of God that I've been preaching to God's chosen believers, then you will learn everything that our Creator wanted us to know about how we're created, what the beast is and why it was created, what happens on the day of the Lord and how we'll experience life after that day of destruction.

It's obvious you were not chosen as one of God's believers, otherwise you would not be arguing which comes from Satan and the beast by the way.
ah, the fruit of the doctrine of Predestination as manifested by man, yes, i was just trying to point this out a week or so ago. So bada-bing, there it is.

What is obvious is of course subjective, and all i can tell you is that some other things are obvious too, and ty for the...whatever that was.
 

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but I cannot believe you read the whole Quran. I know you did not.
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It is a very short read, compared to the Bible. You can read it in like a weekend. We maybe lack the social context from which to understand some of It, but really It sticks to the same symbology as the Bible, evildoers get theirs, follow Christ or be doomed, etc.
 

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I am going to look it up now since you continue to fail to provide points or even a small summary about it.
the point is then made, that you had no knowledge of such a central concept in Christianity, and no one else does either. If looking to a Snake on a Pole saves one, shouldn't this be a bit more prevalent?
 

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Read the Quran, and stop being ignorant about what it teaches. That is why muslim terrorists are fundamentalists because they do what is taught. duh
well, Christians run the world right now, and it is on fire, and i can watch plenty of prognostication about the coming Armageddon on tv any day of the week, be it Y2K, or killer bees, or Nibiru, Global Warming, Rabid Muslims, you name it, the point being that plenty of people mistranslate the Bible, too, and the Qur'an expressly forbids violence in any form in the Beginning of Sur'ahs (iow, page 1), so while you ID them as "Muslim" i would not.

Surely many will cry "Allahu Akbar" the same as many will cry "Lord, Lord," so i don't pay much attention when CNN tells me about the latest "Muslim" atrocity, carefully crafted for our consumption.
 

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ah, the fruit of the doctrine of Predestination as manifested by man, yes, i was just trying to point this out a week or so ago. So bada-bing, there it is.

What is obvious is of course subjective, and all i can tell you is that some other things are obvious too, and ty for the...whatever that was.

I speak from the fruit of Christ, the eternal information that will give us new visible images and thoughts after the day of the Lord destroys Satan and the beast.
 

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this nightmare that should never be happening in America but it is.
"America" is in the world, as uncomfortable as that may make many people, so with all due respect it might be best to seek ways to identify less with the concept of the state, and more with the concept of your nation, the people around you that should matter the most practically speaking, in your daily walk. Which it seems you are being driven to anyway; as am i.